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View Poll Results: Get rid of Sub C for PAM 233?
PAM PAM PAM PAM PAM! 44 52.38%
Keep Sub C and stop looking at PAM Enablers! 40 47.62%
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Old 16 November 2014, 05:30 AM   #1
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Get rid of Sub C for PAM 233?

I may be able to get a less biased opinion posting in this forum seeing that you guys in here are both PAM and Rolex fans.

I should preface that I was a Panerai fan before I got into Rolex and I've been itching to get another one ever since I traded my PAM 112 for a Sub C. I've been wearing my Sub C for about a year now and I just added the BLNR into the mix a couple weeks ago. I am very happy with both watches and even though I think they have their differences, they both wear similarly on the wrist.

So I'm wondering what do you guys think about trading my Sub C for a PAM 233? The BLNR would stay because getting the same deal on it would be difficult where the Sub could be had in the future for about the same price. Keeping both Rolexes right now and adding a PAM isn't an option. One has to go

I go back and forth because the Sub is THE perfect daily. Its just so damn versatile and comfortable but it also feels a bit "safe" and similar to the BLNR.

So what do you guys think?

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Here is the PAM 233 (Photo courtesy of Traveller)
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Old 16 November 2014, 06:17 AM   #2
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Do it, get the PAM.
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Old 16 November 2014, 06:20 AM   #3
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I own the Sub-C date, 233 and a TTGMT, I would do the trade because you can always buy back the Sub-c no date later, which is at a lower price point. I just love being able to change the straps on the 233 to give it a different look everyday. Plus the 233 fits well on any size wrist.
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Old 16 November 2014, 06:56 AM   #4
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keep Sub, save for PAM.
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Old 16 November 2014, 07:33 AM   #5
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The Sub C is SO popular and for good reason. I say Keep both and save for the PAM too.
You could put a good leather strap[or NATO] on the Sub which would differentiate it from the BLNR and could then be easy enough to swap.
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Old 16 November 2014, 08:26 AM   #6
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BLNR plus 233 gives much more variety than BLNR and Sub, so, yes, I would flip for sure.
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Old 16 November 2014, 08:56 AM   #7
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I would keep the Sub and BLNR. I just would not make that trade at all. Stick as you are.
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Old 16 November 2014, 09:26 AM   #8
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233 gets my vote.
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Old 16 November 2014, 09:58 AM   #9
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BLNR + 233 would be a great combo
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Old 16 November 2014, 10:09 AM   #10
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233 is a great piece and the sub-c can be replaced easily. Do it!
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Old 16 November 2014, 11:18 AM   #11
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Yep.
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Old 16 November 2014, 12:55 PM   #12
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Old 16 November 2014, 04:35 PM   #13
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Tough choice, but the Sub will be easier to pick up again in the future. Get the 233
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Old 16 November 2014, 06:04 PM   #14
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I can't keep up with the number of Panerai models out there......

Keep the SubC.

Keep looking at all the Pams.
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Old 16 November 2014, 10:27 PM   #15
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I would keep the Sub and flip the BLNR. The 233 should be closer in price to the BLNR so less money out of pocket for you. I am not a fan of the 233 but have been involved with Panerai for a decade or more and do like some of the models. Do a review of the 233 and read some of the issues with this model. Some years good, some, not so good.
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Old 18 November 2014, 01:10 AM   #16
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Thanks for all the suggestions guys. Pretty close race between the two poll options. I'm gonna take my time with this decision and not do the impulse buy/trade that I always do. I'll probably head to NYC soon and hit up the boutique and try the 233 and 422 on again.

I wonder if they are going to put the new P.4000 movement into a 1950 case next year. That may be and interesting option
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Old 18 November 2014, 05:18 PM   #17
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I am very interested in the 233.

Having said that, I wouldn't flip a sub for it.

The sub is a classic.

Save for the 233, that's what I'm doing.
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Old 18 November 2014, 06:25 PM   #18
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Personally I would keep the sub, however, if I was to get a Pam I think the 233 would be it. You have a few sleepless nights ahead of you I think.
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Old 20 November 2014, 12:15 AM   #19
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Old 20 November 2014, 04:00 AM   #20
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BLNR plus 233 gives much more variety than BLNR and Sub, so, yes, I would flip for sure.
Agreed!
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Old 20 November 2014, 09:20 AM   #21
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Since you already have the BLNR I would definitely flip the Sub-C for the 233.
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Old 20 November 2014, 10:01 PM   #22
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I wouldn't do that trade...after owning many many rolex (new and vintage) and panerai...I would keep the 114060...in my opinion it is the most perfect submariner/sports watch ever...I would trade the blue/black gmt in a second if you are going to make a trade...
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Old 21 November 2014, 02:33 AM   #23
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Keep the SubC!
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Old 21 November 2014, 01:41 PM   #24
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Why not? You can always reverse it if you aren't happy
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Old 24 November 2014, 03:37 PM   #25
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I flipped a 16610LV for a 422 about a month ago.


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Old 25 November 2014, 03:39 AM   #26
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I've had all three watches and only regret letting go of the 233. But I'm biased towards Rolex Explorers as my favorite professional SS models.
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Old 25 November 2014, 07:27 AM   #27
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I'm very impulsive when it comes to this stuff and I need to take my time on the decision. Last week I considered flipping the Sub for the PAM and then this week I decided maybe the BLNR should make the flip for the PAM.

Maybe if I wait long enough I wont have to flip either of them to get it
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Old 25 November 2014, 01:42 PM   #28
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Don't trade, save and buy the 233.

I am curious how you will think it compares with the Rolexes in terms of build quality and "feel".
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Old 26 November 2014, 06:16 AM   #29
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Don't do it.

You said it yourself: "the Sub is THE perfect daily"
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Old 26 November 2014, 06:18 AM   #30
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keep the subC unless its PAM311
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