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Old 9 January 2015, 05:28 PM   #1
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Does your watch date flip over exactly at midnight?

On New Years Eve a few days ago -- my first one where I owned a Rolex -- I was excitedly watching my GMT II as the hour of midnight approached. Expecting to see the number flip from 31 to 1 right as the clock struck midnight and everyone else was kissing their significant other. But NO! It didn't flip! in fact it didn't flip to 1 until like 10 minutes past midnight. I was SO upset -- even more upset than my wife who was mad that I was staring at my watch instead of kissing her at midnight.

So is this normal? It's a K-series GMT II that I bought from a seller on here a few months ago, and it's in perfect condition. Right after I bought it I took it in to get regulated by the local Rolex service center since it was about 15 seconds/day fast, and they said it looked fine and didn't need any work done other than the regulating.

I don't think I'm going to do anything about it, but I'm just curious if this means if it's not set up properly. Or if this kind of variation not uncommon?

Thanks for any info!

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Old 9 January 2015, 06:19 PM   #2
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Dan, some experts will soon chime in. I will say that my SD4000 switches over at +:02.

I think your within acceptable range, but standby for the pros!
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Old 10 January 2015, 12:54 AM   #3
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Variation is common.

Out of my 30+ watches, only one or two flip over between 12:00AM and 12:01AM and even then, not exactly at 12:00:00AM.

It could be worse though, a lot of my Omegas slowly roll over between 11:00PM and 2:00AM. Not that I really need to know the date usually at those hours, but a jump date is nice to have.
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Old 10 January 2015, 03:03 AM   #4
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My Hulk which I bought brand new last April does not flip date until 6 minutes past midnight. So obviously there are variations among watches with this.
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Old 10 January 2015, 04:33 AM   #5
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My 16610 flips over at about :06 past midnight. Always has, always will!
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Old 10 January 2015, 04:43 AM   #6
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My Sub switches over at about 40 seconds past noon.
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Old 10 January 2015, 10:22 AM   #8
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Thanks for the reassurances, everyone! I guess I thought with the COSC accuracy claims (mine is now gaining 1.4 s/day ) that it would click over EXACTLY at midnight. But as c.capt says, knowing the date at those hours of the morning is not exactly a high priority for me!

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Old 10 January 2015, 10:36 AM   #9
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This come up regularly; yes, it's normal...
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Old 10 January 2015, 10:39 AM   #10
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When setting the hands a watchmaker would advance the movement until the date snapped over then set the hands to midnight.

The accuracy of this excercise would depend on whether the watchmaker had been celebrating New Year or not.
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Old 10 January 2015, 01:08 PM   #11
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Thanks for the reassurances, everyone! I guess I thought with the COSC accuracy claims (mine is now gaining 1.4 s/day ) that it would click over EXACTLY at midnight. But as c.capt says, knowing the date at those hours of the morning is not exactly a high priority for me!

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The hands on the dial have little to do with what's going on inside except as a visual reference for time...

A mechanical watch will never click over at exactly midnight except by rare chance.. Most mechanical movements take 3 or 4 hours to change...

As mentioned, the watchmaker manually applies the hands to a finished watch movement as the last thing he does; they can get close, but a couple minutes either way is all you can hope for..
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Old 13 January 2015, 08:23 AM   #12
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The hands on the dial have little to do with what's going on inside except as a visual reference for time...

A mechanical watch will never click over at exactly midnight except by rare chance.. Most mechanical movements take 3 or 4 hours to change...

As mentioned, the watchmaker manually applies the hands to a finished watch movement as the last thing he does; they can get close, but a couple minutes either way is all you can hope for..
Yeah that's what I figured. It's just kind of ironic that Rolex brags about how the numbers flip over "in milliseconds" according to their marketing blurbs, but yet this instantaneous flipover isn't guaranteed to happen anytime near midnight! Kind of negates the point of that feature.

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Old 13 January 2015, 09:40 AM   #13
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Old 13 January 2015, 09:41 AM   #14
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On New Years Eve a few days ago -- my first one where I owned a Rolex -- I was excitedly watching my GMT II as the hour of midnight approached. Expecting to see the number flip from 31 to 1 right as the clock struck midnight and everyone else was kissing their significant other. But NO! It didn't flip! in fact it didn't flip to 1 until like 10 minutes past midnight. I was SO upset -- even more upset than my wife who was mad that I was staring at my watch instead of kissing her at midnight.
So is this normal? It's a K-series GMT II that I bought from a seller on here a few months ago, and it's in perfect condition. Right after I bought it I took it in to get regulated by the local Rolex service center since it was about 15 seconds/day fast, and they said it looked fine and didn't need any work done other than the regulating.

I don't think I'm going to do anything about it, but I'm just curious if this means if it's not set up properly. Or if this kind of variation not uncommon?

Thanks for any info!

-Dan
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Old 13 January 2015, 10:07 AM   #15
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My day date is frightening accurate in switching both the day and the date.. I rarely stay up till midnight but about every 2 months is do and I sit there in my bed like a goof and wait... Sure enough, they both change in one click right at midnight
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Old 14 January 2015, 05:39 AM   #16
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I had the same disappointment with a few vintage Rolexs.
Although they were nothing compared to a very old Ulysses I had which started turning at 22:00 and finished at 02:00!
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You should have just kissed her!
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Old 14 January 2015, 09:10 AM   #18
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You should have just kissed her!
Yes, in hindsight I think that's the correct answer!

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Old 15 January 2015, 10:51 AM   #19
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My date snaps over at 2m34s past midnight on my 216570.
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Sorry to thread jack but I figure I have an audience of all those paying attention to date changes so it’s the right people.

A Rolex boutique manager told me that with their modern movements there is no longer the worry about adjusting the date while the time is near midnight. I had never heard this before. Does anyone here know whether this claim is true or not?
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Sorry to thread jack but I figure I have an audience of all those paying attention to date changes so it’s the right people.

A Rolex boutique manager told me that with their modern movements there is no longer the worry about adjusting the date while the time is near midnight. I had never heard this before. Does anyone here know whether this claim is true or not?
Yes.
This is true for your typical modern Rolex movement with a Quick set date mechanism which has been around for many many years now.
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Sorry to thread jack but I figure I have an audience of all those paying attention to date changes so it’s the right people.

A Rolex boutique manager told me that with their modern movements there is no longer the worry about adjusting the date while the time is near midnight. I had never heard this before. Does anyone here know whether this claim is true or not?
True on all modern Rolex made in the 30 years no problem as they use cam slide date change system.
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Im too old to be up at that hour.

The PR ran out just before midnight the last time I wore it. I was a dummy for not adjusting the time first and did the date, and only realized just after going to set the time that it was around midnight when I set the date. First time ever doing this mistake! Seems to be totally fine though.
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The PR ran out just before midnight the last time I wore it. I was a dummy for not adjusting the time first and did the date, and only realized just after going to set the time that it was around midnight when I set the date. First time ever doing this mistake! Seems to be totally fine though.

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Mine switches aprox 10 past midnight. Never bothered me.
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On New Years Eve a few days ago -- my first one where I owned a Rolex -- I was excitedly watching my GMT II as the hour of midnight approached. Expecting to see the number flip from 31 to 1 right as the clock struck midnight and everyone else was kissing their significant other. But NO! It didn't flip! in fact it didn't flip to 1 until like 10 minutes past midnight. I was SO upset -- even more upset than my wife who was mad that I was staring at my watch instead of kissing her at midnight.

So is this normal? It's a K-series GMT II that I bought from a seller on here a few months ago, and it's in perfect condition. Right after I bought it I took it in to get regulated by the local Rolex service center since it was about 15 seconds/day fast, and they said it looked fine and didn't need any work done other than the regulating.

I don't think I'm going to do anything about it, but I'm just curious if this means if it's not set up properly. Or if this kind of variation not uncommon?

Thanks for any info!

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This is normal. My Rolex watches turn the date around 6-8 minutes after 12 midnight. If you wind the watch by hand then the date should switch over immediately at midnight.
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