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woolshire · 22 December 2023, 07:32 AM

Has anyone ever undertaken the effort to correlate movements to serial numbers? Especially from the 1950’s? There seems to be some loose ties but I’ve never seen a study on this. Also, did Rolex keep records related to what movement went into which watch? I know that isn’t public info but wondering if they did that.

woolshire · 30 December 2023, 02:34 AM

214 views and no responses….I guess that sort of answers my question. It would seem nobody cares, as long as the it’s the correct calibre movement. I would venture a guess that Rolex knows what movement went with which serial number, even back in the 50’s…but maybe I’m wrong on that.

offrdmania · 30 December 2023, 03:46 AM

Ive never heard about movement numbers having anything to do with the serial number of the watch mid case, especially from a watch so old. Movements and parts have most likely been swapped long ago during service if there was an issue with the movement. The point is irrelevant IMO.
Rolex may have kept a record which they would never release. The only reason they may have kept such record was only to make sure the correct movement caliber went into the correct mid case.
Records may not even be available any longer for a watch that old.
Rolex wont even touch a watch that old for service. They have no parts for them any longer.
You have to be patient, you are asking a very broad question and only a few may even have a slight hint about the subject.

KY.. · 30 December 2023, 04:00 AM

A lot of knowledgeable folks here on TRF, but I’d ask this on VRF as well to cover all angles.
https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/vintagerolexforum/

woolshire · 30 December 2023, 07:18 AM

I’ve got a small sampling of some of the 1950’s 1030 series movements that are associated with references and case back dates. I feel I can tell with near certainty if a specific movement was born with a case, at least on these 1030 series references. I find it interesting that the movement numbers are relatively meaningless for vintage Rolex but mean everything on Pateks, for example. A lot of that has to do with Patek archive availability (for $550) on any watch they have ever produced.

offrdmania · 30 December 2023, 07:56 AM

That is because Patek is willing to release that information for a price, Rolex wont

22 December 2023, 07:32 AM	#1
woolshire "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Davenport, Iowa Posts: 26	Movement Numbers Correlated to Serial Numbers? Has anyone ever undertaken the effort to correlate movements to serial numbers? Especially from the 1950’s? There seems to be some loose ties but I’ve never seen a study on this. Also, did Rolex keep records related to what movement went into which watch? I know that isn’t public info but wondering if they did that.

30 December 2023, 03:46 AM	#3
offrdmania 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 X2 Pledge Member Join Date: May 2008 Real Name: Matt Location: Wine Country, Ca Posts: 5,857	Ive never heard about movement numbers having anything to do with the serial number of the watch mid case, especially from a watch so old. Movements and parts have most likely been swapped long ago during service if there was an issue with the movement. The point is irrelevant IMO. Rolex may have kept a record which they would never release. The only reason they may have kept such record was only to make sure the correct movement caliber went into the correct mid case. Records may not even be available any longer for a watch that old. Rolex wont even touch a watch that old for service. They have no parts for them any longer. You have to be patient, you are asking a very broad question and only a few may even have a slight hint about the subject. __________________ TRF Member 11738

30 December 2023, 04:00 AM	#4
KY.. 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2021 Real Name: Keith Location: California Watch: 60s to 90s Posts: 1,262	A lot of knowledgeable folks here on TRF, but I’d ask this on VRF as well to cover all angles. https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/vintagerolexforum/ __________________ Just an admirer/enthusiast of vintage Rolex/Heuer/Zenith/Breitling/Hamilton watches since the 80’s… ”I Do Love The Details, But I Can Choose If I Accept The Flaws…”

30 December 2023, 07:56 AM	#6
offrdmania 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 X2 Pledge Member Join Date: May 2008 Real Name: Matt Location: Wine Country, Ca Posts: 5,857	That is because Patek is willing to release that information for a price, Rolex wont __________________ TRF Member 11738

30 December 2023, 02:34 AM	#2
woolshire "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Davenport, Iowa Posts: 26	214 views and no responses….I guess that sort of answers my question. It would seem nobody cares, as long as the it’s the correct calibre movement. I would venture a guess that Rolex knows what movement went with which serial number, even back in the 50’s…but maybe I’m wrong on that.

30 December 2023, 07:18 AM	#5
woolshire "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Davenport, Iowa Posts: 26	I’ve got a small sampling of some of the 1950’s 1030 series movements that are associated with references and case back dates. I feel I can tell with near certainty if a specific movement was born with a case, at least on these 1030 series references. I find it interesting that the movement numbers are relatively meaningless for vintage Rolex but mean everything on Pateks, for example. A lot of that has to do with Patek archive availability (for $550) on any watch they have ever produced.

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