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HogwldFLTR · 2 May 2014, 12:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lordcon

I find it interesting that the Rolex instruction manual refers to the watch as a "GMT Master I" as opposed to just "GMT Master". The "I" implies that there is a "II"? somewhere amist?

The 16700 was introduced at the same time as the GMTII. This is why it had a shorter manufacturing run.

charles22 · 2 May 2014, 01:02 AM

I realised when reading back through this thread that, some 10 months ago, I said that I had a 16700 incoming.

A bit late in the day, but here's the one and only wrist-shot!

'A' serial, 'swiss' only. Drop-dead gorgeous!

It got worn for the photo and has remained in it's box ever since. Can't bring myself to wear a mint example that still has the caseback sticker intact and a bracelet as stiff as the day it was made. Sad eh :-(

HogwldFLTR · 2 May 2014, 08:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by charles22

I realised when reading back through this thread that, some 10 months ago, I said that I had a 16700 incoming.

A bit late in the day, but here's the one and only wrist-shot!

'A' serial, 'swiss' only. Drop-dead gorgeous!

It got worn for the photo and has remained in it's box ever since. Can't bring myself to wear a mint example that still has the caseback sticker intact and a bracelet as stiff as the day it was made. Sad eh :-(

Lend it to me; I'll break it in for you.

Which clasp does yours have?

A beautiful example. Strangely my E Serial still glows in the dark. Dimmer than my Luminova EXP II but good enough to read in bed at night.

etp095 · 8 October 2008, 07:28 AM

great looking watches,you guys have there.

JimC · 26 October 2008, 12:56 PM

Excellent review and photos! I've been searching for a GMT (not sure which one) and this thread provided me with a wealth of information. Really useful to see how it works, plus the explanation right from the manual. Wasn't sure of the differences between the GMT I and II; this review and the comments said it all.

Thanks!

Frosty · 16 February 2011, 10:31 AM

This is a very informative article with great pictures of a beautiful watch. I really enjoy mine.

MATCH1969 · 30 January 2013, 07:21 AM

nice review, I had one 16700 but had to let it go for an incredible GMT 16760

dcvelo · 19 February 2013, 11:07 AM

Beautiful, I love mine to pieces, I almost let it go a couple of times, but still kept it. It is definitely one of the originals.
Cheers!!

bplein · 18 March 2013, 08:32 AM

Nice post!

I use my GMTII-C differently, since it has the hour skipping function.

I always set the hands to local time. So if I fly from Texas to Germany, I bump the hours forward 7 hours. Then I set the bezel to my home time zone. This way I am using the hands for whatever time zone I am in.

A pilot might change time zones so often that this would be a pain, so they may be better off leaving the hands on their "home" time zone and only using the bezel for local. But I prefer to use the bezel to calculate time for any time zone, as I have staff in 3 time zones in the US, one in Japan, and a major customer in Germany. If I fly to another time zone, it's usually for 3 days or more.

stylinleems · 30 May 2017, 10:24 AM

My dad has a 16700 A-Serial that was purchased in 1999 - it is still in mint condition. I'm trying to tell him to let me 'borrow' it (aka add it to my collection)

Still has all the original paper work with receipt and unnamed warranty paper (just dated).

SeeitBuyit · 1 June 2018, 11:45 AM

Always preferred this model. never knew it was scarce. Nice article too.

yannis · 9 November 2008, 06:03 PM

Fantastic pictures and a very well written review! My passion for my GMT keeps on growing (though mine is not a 16700)!

Rolexito · 11 November 2008, 08:27 AM

Beautiful piece!......I´ve got one like it!

GeoGio Greece · 1 December 2008, 08:55 AM

A very nice post ! Thank you.

We consider GMT-Master as one of the best ever, and we love them. Two of these, ticking in Athens, Greece.

There are still many more, on this side of the world.

roscoe58 · 24 April 2009, 01:53 PM

Thanks for the great information and pictures. I'm lovin' my 93' Pepsi GMT!

slc1310 · 29 April 2009, 10:22 AM

I just purchased a gmt, thank you for such a great lesson of it history,great post

lobsterlee · 1 May 2009, 06:22 AM

I'm seriously looking at a 16700... I do have one question though...

Q: A Serial 1999 "Swiss" only superluminova dial version - made for just 2 years in 1998/9

Is the above statement correct?

Much appreciated & what sort of ballpark figure am I looking at, as I have not seen many to compare...

Many thanks

Jet · 14 January 2010, 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lobsterlee

I'm seriously looking at a 16700... I do have one question though...

Q: A Serial 1999 "Swiss" only superluminova dial version - made for just 2 years in 1998/9

Is the above statement correct?

Much appreciated & what sort of ballpark figure am I looking at, as I have not seen many to compare...

Many thanks

Is it true that the A serial "Swiss" only superluminova version was made only in 1998/9? I am excited because mine is indeed an A serial w/ "Swiss" only. I also purchased it new in 1999.

Can someone please confirm?

eyen · 11 July 2009, 09:11 PM

I've seen U series with swiss dial.

116520 · 12 July 2009, 07:59 PM

My 16700 is a "A serial".

sexner · 17 July 2009, 04:17 AM

Very nice write up, Larry. My third Rolex was an A series 16700. She served me well for 10 years.

bartonjet · 18 July 2009, 11:46 AM

All the looks of a sub with an additional complication...perhaps the best value for your dollar with regards to Rolex sports.

4000 feet · 14 January 2010, 12:03 PM

4000 feet here. I received a Rolex 16700 for high school graduation. I love the watch. It is an R serial number making it one of the first ones produced. I think this watch is undervalued and as time goes on collectors will take notice. Great watch and I am glad that I got one. at the time I got it I didn't know much about Rolex and all the stuff I have learned now. I urge anyone who wants one to get one . ya won't be sorry. thx 4000 feet.

sea-dweller · 15 January 2010, 02:22 AM

Nice review !!!

Juggernaut · 15 January 2010, 05:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tools

One unusual aspect of the 16700 - It was the only GMT to be offered with the 93150 Sub Style bracelet, which I preferred at the time:

Did the Sub bracelet have the diver's extension???

dcvelo · 28 January 2010, 05:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Juggernaut

Did the Sub bracelet have the diver's extension???

No, just the Sub style with the safety clasp, but no extension.
Cheers!

Tools Edit: The 93150 bracelet always comes with the extension, whether it is on the GMT (pilots flight suit extension), or on the Sub (diver's wet suit extension).

Watch-connoisseur · 8 March 2010, 03:44 AM

Great stuff and great watch. Mine say hi:

noobperson · 13 March 2010, 03:52 PM

Hello there,

I would appreciate your help on this. Do all GMT Masters, and specifically 16700s, have luminous markers?

Thanks.

Tools · 14 March 2010, 04:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by noobperson

Hello there,

I would appreciate your help on this. Do all GMT Masters, and specifically 16700s, have luminous markers?

Thanks.

Yes............. However, before 1998 they used Tritium, which may, or may not still be active... since the 16700 was discontinued in ~1999, there are only 2 years where they used Luminova and those will still glow brightly when charged by light.

So, the reality is that most 16700's will have lume that no longer glows in the dark..

2toneYachtMaster · 16 January 2010, 12:00 PM

Great review!! Great pics!! My first Rolex was the GMT-Master 16700 E serial (1990). I purchased this watch a few years ago from a lady in South Carolina and it has been great. I have the original box and papers and come to find out it was purchased at Eurasia ltd. I had never heard of them before and found out they are an AD in Israel, thought that was interesting. I was wondering if anybody would know what they might have paid for the watch back then in Israel, more or less than in the US??? Great review, enjoyed it.

GMT master 16700 E serial Pepsi
Yacht Master M serial 18k/SS white dial

2 May 2014, 01:02 AM	#2
charles22 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: UK Posts: 88	Better late then never.... I realised when reading back through this thread that, some 10 months ago, I said that I had a 16700 incoming. A bit late in the day, but here's the one and only wrist-shot! 'A' serial, 'swiss' only. Drop-dead gorgeous! It got worn for the photo and has remained in it's box ever since. Can't bring myself to wear a mint example that still has the caseback sticker intact and a bracelet as stiff as the day it was made. Sad eh :-(

8 October 2008, 07:28 AM	#4
etp095 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Real Name: rudolph Location: chicago burbs Posts: 2,026	great looking watches,you guys have there. __________________ tt date circa 69' 5513 circa 81' ss sub w/date (z) pepsi gmt for dad(D) polar expy II(z) 1675 gmt circa 68' ladies datejust on jubilee for mom (z) sea dweller16600(M) SS Sub-C(g) Omega Planet Ocean,45.5 on mesh(2500D)

18 March 2013, 08:32 AM	#9
bplein "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2006 Real Name: Bill Location: Austin, Texas, US Watch: GMT-IIC Posts: 398	Nice post! I use my GMTII-C differently, since it has the hour skipping function. I always set the hands to local time. So if I fly from Texas to Germany, I bump the hours forward 7 hours. Then I set the bezel to my home time zone. This way I am using the hands for whatever time zone I am in. A pilot might change time zones so often that this would be a pain, so they may be better off leaving the hands on their "home" time zone and only using the bezel for local. But I prefer to use the bezel to calculate time for any time zone, as I have staff in 3 time zones in the US, one in Japan, and a major customer in Germany. If I fly to another time zone, it's usually for 3 days or more. __________________ Bill 1984 DateJust 16013 2012 GMTII-C 116710LN 2013 Tudor Black Bay 79220R 2014 Milgauss 116400 Wife: 2015 Lady-Datejust 179160

30 May 2017, 10:24 AM	#10
stylinleems 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 X2 Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: N/A Posts: 3,184	My dad has a 16700 A-Serial that was purchased in 1999 - it is still in mint condition. I'm trying to tell him to let me 'borrow' it (aka add it to my collection) Still has all the original paper work with receipt and unnamed warranty paper (just dated). __________________ Rolex: 126334 (BL) \| 116610LN \| 116500LN (WT) \| 116500LN (BK) \| 126710BLRO \| 116610LV \| 116710BLNR

9 November 2008, 06:03 PM	#12
yannis "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Real Name: Yannis Location: Europe Watch: maniac Posts: 9,070	Fantastic pictures and a very well written review! My passion for my GMT keeps on growing (though mine is not a 16700)! __________________ Rolex Submariner 116610LV \| Tudor 79220N DSSD MEMBERS - OWNERS CLUB

26 October 2008, 12:56 PM	#5
JimC "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Real Name: Jim Location: Anchorage, Alaska Watch: Rolex Posts: 1,188	Excellent review and photos! I've been searching for a GMT (not sure which one) and this thread provided me with a wealth of information. Really useful to see how it works, plus the explanation right from the manual. Wasn't sure of the differences between the GMT I and II; this review and the comments said it all. Thanks!

16 February 2011, 10:31 AM	#6
Frosty "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2009 Real Name: Larry Location: So Cal Watch: Rolex GMT 1675 Posts: 5,084	This is a very informative article with great pictures of a beautiful watch. I really enjoy mine.

30 January 2013, 07:21 AM	#7
MATCH1969 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: PARIS Watch: Vintage Posts: 2,761	nice review, I had one 16700 but had to let it go for an incredible GMT 16760

19 February 2013, 11:07 AM	#8
dcvelo Banned Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Washington, DC Posts: 189	Beautiful, I love mine to pieces, I almost let it go a couple of times, but still kept it. It is definitely one of the originals. Cheers!!

1 June 2018, 11:45 AM	#11
SeeitBuyit "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2018 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FL Watch: Breguet Hora Mundi Posts: 133	Always preferred this model. never knew it was scarce. Nice article too.

11 November 2008, 08:27 AM	#13
Rolexito Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Spain Posts: 83	Beautiful piece!......I´ve got one like it!

1 December 2008, 08:55 AM	#14
GeoGio Greece "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Real Name: George Location: Athens, Greece Watch: es --> A lot ! Posts: 2,327	A very nice post ! Thank you. We consider GMT-Master as one of the best ever, and we love them. Two of these, ticking in Athens, Greece. There are still many more, on this side of the world.

24 April 2009, 01:53 PM	#15
roscoe58 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Canada Posts: 2	Great Stuff Thanks for the great information and pictures. I'm lovin' my 93' Pepsi GMT!

29 April 2009, 10:22 AM	#16
slc1310 Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Real Name: Steve Location: Mt. Washington ky Watch: Gmt two-tone Posts: 60	I just purchased a gmt, thank you for such a great lesson of it history,great post

1 May 2009, 06:22 AM	#17
lobsterlee "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: england Watch: GMT Master 16700 Posts: 37	I'm seriously looking at a 16700... I do have one question though... Q: A Serial 1999 "Swiss" only superluminova dial version - made for just 2 years in 1998/9 Is the above statement correct? Much appreciated & what sort of ballpark figure am I looking at, as I have not seen many to compare... Many thanks

11 July 2009, 09:11 PM	#19
eyen Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Real Name: Matt Location: Hong Kong Watch: Submariner Posts: 168	I've seen U series with swiss dial.

12 July 2009, 07:59 PM	#20
116520 Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Real Name: Dennis Location: Singapore Watch: 116520 Posts: 181	My 16700 is a "A serial".

17 July 2009, 04:17 AM	#21
sexner "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2009 Real Name: 4Q Location: Nowhere near you Watch: 169622, 124060 Posts: 2,014	Very nice write up, Larry. My third Rolex was an A series 16700. She served me well for 10 years. __________________ One should endeavor to do what is right not what is established.

18 July 2009, 11:46 AM	#22
bartonjet Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Charlotte, NC USA Watch: vintage gilt subs Posts: 61	All the looks of a sub with an additional complication...perhaps the best value for your dollar with regards to Rolex sports.

14 January 2010, 12:03 PM	#23
4000 feet "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Northern CA Watch: ROLEX. Posts: 137	Gmt 16700 4000 feet here. I received a Rolex 16700 for high school graduation. I love the watch. It is an R serial number making it one of the first ones produced. I think this watch is undervalued and as time goes on collectors will take notice. Great watch and I am glad that I got one. at the time I got it I didn't know much about Rolex and all the stuff I have learned now. I urge anyone who wants one to get one . ya won't be sorry. thx 4000 feet.

15 January 2010, 02:22 AM	#24
sea-dweller "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Real Name: Dennis Location: Bay Area - 925 Posts: 40,018	Nice review !!! __________________ TRF Member #6699 (since September 2007)

8 March 2010, 03:44 AM	#27
Watch-connoisseur "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: sg Posts: 3	Great stuff and great watch. Mine say hi:

13 March 2010, 03:52 PM	#28
noobperson "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: here Posts: 2	Luminous markers? Hello there, I would appreciate your help on this. Do all GMT Masters, and specifically 16700s, have luminous markers? Thanks.

16 January 2010, 12:00 PM	#30
2toneYachtMaster Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Real Name: Chris Location: US Watch: YM,GMT,AirKing Posts: 19	Great review!! Great pics!! My first Rolex was the GMT-Master 16700 E serial (1990). I purchased this watch a few years ago from a lady in South Carolina and it has been great. I have the original box and papers and come to find out it was purchased at Eurasia ltd. I had never heard of them before and found out they are an AD in Israel, thought that was interesting. I was wondering if anybody would know what they might have paid for the watch back then in Israel, more or less than in the US??? Great review, enjoyed it. GMT master 16700 E serial Pepsi Yacht Master M serial 18k/SS white dial

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