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Old 17 January 2012, 06:59 PM   #1
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Synthetic or Dino-lube for you car?

Ive used Mobil 1 ever since my first oil change and still change it around 5k to 6k
Does anybody still use dino since most cars today say use Synthetic or Synthetic blend?
I never hear of cars burning up crankshafts anymore like back in 70's so I guess even the cheap oil does a OK job now.
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Old 17 January 2012, 07:14 PM   #2
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Synthetic.

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Old 17 January 2012, 08:54 PM   #3
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What's "Dino-Lub"?
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Old 17 January 2012, 08:58 PM   #4
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Old 17 January 2012, 09:18 PM   #6
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Old 17 January 2012, 11:56 PM   #7
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0w40 Mobil 1 in the BMWs, 10,000KM per oil change, redline MTL for the manual boxes.

If it says synthetic, I don't argue with them, especially having seen the VANOS system in pieces while replacing the seals, the oil must be almost like water to fully penetrate that thing.
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Old 18 January 2012, 12:03 AM   #8
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BMW gets whatever the Dealer puts in....They tell me it's Mobil 1

GMC work van gets good ol reg 10w30 changed every 3000 miles
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Old 18 January 2012, 12:11 AM   #9
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5W-30 every 7500 or so. Mobil Clean 5000, which is plain petro oil.
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Old 18 January 2012, 12:42 AM   #10
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Ive used Mobil 1 ever since my first oil change and still change it around 5k to 6k...
I've used Mobil 1 for years too.

I think if you check with the manufacturer of your vehicle, you'll find that you're changing your oil MUCH more often than you need to with synthetic oil.
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Old 18 January 2012, 12:47 AM   #11
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Mobil 1 and Redline products for me in both my street cars/trucks and my Race Car. Both Synthetic ! Well except in my Race car's Diff, I use Castrol SAF-XJ 75W-140W(now called Syntrax!) which is also synthetic.


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Old 18 January 2012, 12:49 AM   #12
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I've used Mobil 1 for years too.

I think if you check with the manufacturer of your vehicle, you'll find that you're changing your oil MUCH more often than you need to with synthetic oil.
Depends on the car really, like BMW recommend 25,000KM intervals but after 10,000, the oil doesn't look good at all, after 25,000 it looks shocking.

Incidentally... from the replies it almost looks like being pedantic over your oil is a BMW owner thing, there seems to be a pattern...
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Old 18 January 2012, 12:51 AM   #13
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Toyota synthetic oil for my Ls 460 every 5k.
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Old 18 January 2012, 01:30 AM   #14
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I change my BMW oil every 10K km.

10W60 is recommended for the M-engines, so that what I use!
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Old 18 January 2012, 02:07 AM   #15
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I think back in the 80s Consumer Reports did a famous New York taxi Cab test. 1/2 of the cars had the oil changed at 3,000 miles and1/2 at 12,000 miles. Then after around 60,000 miles all the engines were torn apart and they found no real difference in wear on the engines. I think they just used conventional oil, no synthetics. They used New York cabs because of the weather extremes and they felt that the circumstances of how they drive would be very hard on the engines. The study basically debunked the frequent oil change push, at least for the first 60,000 miles of driving in New York taxi cab driving conditions.
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Old 18 January 2012, 02:11 AM   #16
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I think back in the 80s Consumer Reports did a famous New York taxi Cab test. 1/2 of the cars had the oil changed at 3,000 miles and1/2 at 12,000 miles. Then after around 60,000 miles all the engines were torn apart and they found no real difference in wear on the engines. I think they just used conventional oil, no synthetics. They used New York cabs because of the weather extremes and they felt that the circumstances of how they drive would be very hard on the engines. The study basically debunked the frequent oil change push, at least for the first 60,000 miles of driving in New York taxi cab driving conditions.
Big difference between an old iron V8 and a twin cam high revving motor with a complicated and oil filled variable valve timing system though.
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Old 18 January 2012, 02:29 AM   #17
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Mobile One here as well. I change at 7500 miles on my Subaru 4 cyl and did look at the old oil after the second or third change out and it still looked pretty good. I think that it could probably go 10,000 miles.
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Old 18 January 2012, 02:32 AM   #18
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Synthetic in everything. Car, truck, snowblower, lawnmower.
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Old 18 January 2012, 04:38 AM   #19
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mobile one in the lexus' nothing better! castrol in my tundra
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Old 18 January 2012, 04:50 AM   #20
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Hah, never heard the term "dino lube" before - nice.

Synthetic always - why would you never not use it??
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Old 18 January 2012, 08:11 AM   #21
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Old 18 January 2012, 08:27 AM   #22
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I use Castrol equivalenve of BMW Long Life oil

1/2 the price... full synhtetic 5-30
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Old 18 January 2012, 08:33 AM   #23
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Hah, never heard the term "dino lube" before - nice.
"dino" = made from old dinosaurs! ie. Dug out of the ground

Very common term in lots of the car forums... and you should see the fireworks over there when this same question is asked!

Wow, some people are "passionate" about their oil
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"dino" = made from old dinosaurs! ie. Dug out of the ground

Very common term in lots of the car forums... and you should see the fireworks over there when this same question is asked!

Wow, some people are "passionate" about their oil
Yea I got it ;-) As in, how oil is naturally created. Is there any advantage (besides price) to using dino oil over synthetic?
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Yea I got it ;-) As in, how oil is naturally created. Is there any advantage (besides price) to using dino oil over synthetic?
No advantage if its a newer engine. Actually it would be a disadvantage to use it on a newer engine because most of them come from the factory designed to run with synthetic.

Moving to a synthetic from dino oil on an older car can be detrimental as well. Most of those cars didnt have sealed cylindar walls and if theres any hairline cracks, the synthetic oil which is extremely fine, will find its way in there and leak. The thicker dino oil seals those cracks in better like sludge.

However, most motorcycles these days are delivered with dyno oil(or used to be) and you would use this oil to break in the engine and clean out any small metalic shavings. Then at the first oil change(typically around 6-800 miles) you would switch over to synthetic.
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Yea I got it ;-) As in, how oil is naturally created. Is there any advantage (besides price) to using dino oil over synthetic?
Hey Conrail, sorry for my post, I don't think I was clear.
I meant the same question asked about which oil to use (not same question: "what is dino"). Fireworks and passion over dino v's synthetics

I use and prefer synthetics, but that is also because that is what my specialist Porsche service people use. Porsche's could be a unique case, as although they are air-cooled, the reality is that the oil plays a big part in cooling (you could even call them oil-cooled!). Oil capacity in my P-car is 11.5 litres !!!

Some important tips
- avoid mixing mineral and synthetic oils
- mineral oils not always available in all weights

The debate can get very technical, but I think the bottom line is: if you use a high quality oil, in the correct weight for your engine, replaced / maintained correctly, then it won't make a huge difference for normal road use.
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I've used Mobil 1 for years too.

I think if you check with the manufacturer of your vehicle, you'll find that you're changing your oil MUCH more often than you need to with synthetic oil.
I use Mobil 1 in my Corvette. Mechanic told me that if I brought it in before 10,000 miles he'd refuse to change it.
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Hey Conrail, sorry for my post, I don't think I was clear.
I meant the same question asked about which oil to use (not same question: "what is dino"). Fireworks and passion over dino v's synthetics

I use and prefer synthetics, but that is also because that is what my specialist Porsche service people use. Porsche's could be a unique case, as although they are air-cooled, the reality is that the oil plays a big part in cooling (you could even call them oil-cooled!). Oil capacity in my P-car is 11.5 litres !!!

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The debate can get very technical, but I think the bottom line is: if you use a high quality oil, in the correct weight for your engine, replaced / maintained correctly, then it won't make a huge difference for normal road use.
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Old 19 January 2012, 03:59 AM   #30
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Castrol Synthetic oil in the Audi. It's a turbo and "Dino" oil is not recommended. I bought it from a friend with 46,000 miles on it. He had it dealer serviced since new using synthetic oil and had it changed every 10,000 miles. When I took it to my shop who only works on Audis he said I had some sludge built up and recommended the oil be changed every 5,000 miles. That's ok since he looks the car over carefully and the car is only driven about 10,000 miles a year anyway. Conventional oil in the Silverado, Jimmy, and Harley. Changes every 3,000 miles and never an engine problem.

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