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Old 8 October 2016, 03:18 PM   #31
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Wow, sorry to hear and hope it all works out
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Old 8 October 2016, 06:04 PM   #32
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OP, real sorry to hear that this happened to you. As a new member here myself, this is probably one of my worst fears. I hope you are able to resolve this matter and get your money back, please keep us informed.
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Old 9 October 2016, 02:31 AM   #33
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Wire instructions
Bank: Wells Fargo
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Routing #
Name on account: Sophia Goff
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Bank Address: Address: 200 W 7th St, Hanford, CA 93230
Please keep me posted with payment receipt once payment is made.
On Tue, Sep 20, 2016 at 7:14 AM,

I wonder if I would be anxious to wire to any Wells Fargo account at this point. It seems I have heard that there was a time anyone could get a couple accounts without really being anyone.

Perhaps you could look into this account and see if the bank should share some accountability for its misuse.

It would be interesting to see one of those "late night" tv commercials by law firms looking for people who were hurt by drugs to take a bank on for harm caused by bad banking practices. I wonder how many people have found themselves in a similar situation and lost their money to a scammer with an easily gotten fraudulent account?
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Old 14 October 2016, 08:25 PM   #34
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Hi Everyone,
Sorry I haven't posted an update, have been on the road. I've filed a complaint with the FBI and followed up with contact to my local field office in Baltimore. Local police defaulted to FBI since it was online and an out-of-state crime. I've also contacted Wells Fargo multiple times and been in contact with my bank but these pathways seem to be less fruitful. From what I've been told, my best hope is thru the FBIs online crimes unit. Fingers crossed as I hope to hear from them soon. Thanks for everyone's well wishes
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Old 15 October 2016, 12:30 PM   #35
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I think you have to file a complaint with your bank and they deal with Wells Fargo to try to recoup the funds. That Wells Fargo account was opened up by somebody and they presumably showed their ID. (Unless this was one of the 2 million Wells Fargo fake accounts)

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Old 27 October 2016, 02:39 PM   #36
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Thanks for posting this. I almost got into a similar deal as well. We will need to be more careful.
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Old 27 October 2016, 10:44 PM   #37
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Sorry to hear about your situation, hopefully you/FBI will be able to recover the funds that are rightfully yours and charge this person with wire fraud.

No one wants to see other members on the forum lose out on a big some of hard earned money. Hope these people get what they (account holder included) deserve!
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Old 27 October 2016, 11:27 PM   #38
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This guys bad guy and thief!
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Old 28 October 2016, 12:16 PM   #39
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Use the bank account info and report it to his local police to file a report for theft by deception hire lawyer in his area for your defense in the superior court all the FBI reporting an online shit doesn't matter you need to go to his local brand of police and escalate it to the superior court in his local area
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Old 1 November 2016, 11:20 AM   #40
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Ugh, sorry to hear this. Any update?
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Old 1 November 2016, 01:46 PM   #41
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I hope there's no connection to member frankdelarosa also in Texas who just pledged and is eager to start selling?
Where in Texas? I'm checking FB and see a few Frank Delarosa's.

This is the kind of person you wish you could wait in the bushes for, with a baseball bat in hand.

Best of luck recovering your money and please use PayPal next time.
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Old 2 November 2016, 01:39 AM   #42
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Use the bank account info and report it to his local police to file a report for theft by deception hire lawyer in his area for your defense in the superior court all the FBI reporting an online shit doesn't matter you need to go to his local brand of police and escalate it to the superior court in his local area
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Old 11 November 2016, 10:51 PM   #43
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Why I only use Paypal. It costs more but you have piece of mind.
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Old 13 November 2016, 12:57 PM   #44
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Sorry for your loss. Best wishes.
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Old 23 December 2016, 02:52 PM   #45
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I got scammed in remarkably the same way from a *derrick james* on paneristi.com

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Old 25 December 2016, 07:38 AM   #46
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Good luck to the OP in getting his money back.
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Old 25 December 2016, 07:59 AM   #47
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PayPal, Amex or no dice.

Simples.

I'm really sorry this happened to you. I hope the FBI arrest him......and I'm sure they will in time.

The banks could be more pro-active in cases like this.
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Old 25 December 2016, 04:12 PM   #48
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Very sad to read this story my friend. Do you know what area of California this person supposedly lived in?
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Old 26 December 2016, 10:41 AM   #49
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I passed on a Pelagos because the seller would not accept PayPal.

Unless I have a good sold feel that I know who I'm dealing with, it's PayPal or nothing. I can't afford the money, not to mention the time, to chase down some scumbag like this just to castrate him.

Just a common Theif is all he (or she) is. Pathetic.

I hope the FBI have good success on your behalf and he gets federal prison time.
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Old 26 December 2016, 10:44 AM   #50
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double post. Sorry!
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Old 26 December 2016, 12:20 PM   #51
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So frustrating. Wish there was more that could be done to get your funds back.
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Old 26 December 2016, 12:37 PM   #52
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Most trusted sellers won't accept PayPal. They insist on bank wires, and this is the good ones. So all you people insisting on use of PayPal need to get back to earth. No offense intended, but let's not blame the victim.
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Old 26 December 2016, 12:43 PM   #53
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Most trusted sellers won't accept PayPal. They insist on bank wires, and this is the good ones. So all you people insisting on use of PayPal need to get back to earth. No offense intended, but let's not blame the victim.
It goes both ways right? Scammer buyer buys using PayPal. After receiving the watch, files a complain that he received a rock. Seller doesn't want to go thru this.
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Old 27 December 2016, 03:08 AM   #54
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Be aware that this guy is also selling this watch on

another forum , I believe timezone.com .

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Old 27 December 2016, 03:18 AM   #55
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Also in these situations The seller is Usually a guy yet

The Bank account holder is in a woman's name. In each fraudulent bank wire transaction I have seen this has always been the case, including my local watch trading buddy who got scammed earlier this yr.
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Old 4 January 2017, 11:38 AM   #56
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Most trusted sellers won't accept PayPal. They insist on bank wires, and this is the good ones. So all you people insisting on use of PayPal need to get back to earth. No offense intended, but let's not blame the victim.
This is very true, but I would only bank wire money to a dealer whom I know to be in the business of selling watches ideally with a premises. For an individual selling his/her watch, it's Paypal or Amex only for me.

I feel really bad for the OP. Being scammed is a dreadful thing and it's not his fault. It could happen to any of us.
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Old 6 January 2017, 07:34 AM   #57
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This is very true, but I would only bank wire money to a dealer whom I know to be in the business of selling watches ideally with a premises. For an individual selling his/her watch, it's Paypal or Amex only for me.

I feel really bad for the OP. Being scammed is a dreadful thing and it's not his fault. It could happen to any of us.
Absolutely. This could have happened to any of us.

I hope OP gets his money back.
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Old 6 January 2017, 11:54 AM   #58
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Bump for updates, hope all is well.
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Old 7 January 2017, 12:49 PM   #59
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sad to hear this story...keep your head up!
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Old 7 January 2017, 02:33 PM   #60
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This thread makes me sick... I really hope justic is served. Keep us updated.
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