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Old 15 October 2011, 10:54 PM   #1
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Which watch has the biggest power reserve?

Gday,
I mainly wear a watch to work, I dont wear them much at home or out and about.
Usually when I get home from work I take off my watch and dont put it on again until I leave for work the next morning.
Having a preference for automatics this means I always have a dead watch every Monday morning, and end up grabbing my Ecodrive which means I didnt wear an auto for a few years, but now im getting back into them.

Just out of interest, are then any auto watches of any kind that have a big enough power reserve that you can take them off Friday night and they will still be running when you put it on again on Monday morning?
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Old 15 October 2011, 11:02 PM   #2
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Many.

Basic in-house Panerais have a 3-day PR
Few complicated in-house Panerais have an 8 or 10 day PR.
Many IWC's have 7-day PR's
Lange 31 has a 31 day PR.

And that's just a few. Many watches have a more than one barrel, which allows for long PR's.
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Old 16 October 2011, 01:16 AM   #3
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Many.

Basic in-house Panerais have a 3-day PR
Few complicated in-house Panerais have an 8 or 10 day PR.
Many IWC's have 7-day PR's
Lange 31 has a 31 day PR.

And that's just a few. Many watches have a more than one barrel, which allows for long PR's.
Yes. This guy knows!
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Old 16 October 2011, 01:20 AM   #4
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Exactly Greg! The Lange 31 day the biggest one out there!
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Many IWC's have 7-day PR's
Speaking of which: http://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=198816
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Old 16 October 2011, 11:33 AM   #6
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Wow that IWC is awesome! Im not really into chronos/ sport watches and really cluttered up dials. That has time, date and power reserve and that is just perfect. I would love a power reserve indicator.
Shame its about 5 times too big for my arm though! How much do these sell for used?
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Old 16 October 2011, 11:51 AM   #7
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Oh. Lange 31. Wow.
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Old 16 October 2011, 01:54 PM   #8
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Wow that IWC is awesome! Im not really into chronos/ sport watches and really cluttered up dials. That has time, date and power reserve and that is just perfect. I would love a power reserve indicator.
Shame its about 5 times too big for my arm though! How much do these sell for used?
IWC 5001 non-precious metal should be $7-8k. You'll note many opportunistic sellers on eBay listing in the $9s and even $10s. That's too much.
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Old 16 October 2011, 02:04 PM   #9
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That's $7-$8 used. New with discount is in the $10s (with the 10/1 increase).
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Old 16 October 2011, 02:42 PM   #10
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31 days????? Wow...
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Old 16 October 2011, 03:14 PM   #11
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It uses a separate key to wind the watch from the back. The key has a torque mechanism to keep from overwinding the mainsprings.
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Old 16 October 2011, 07:32 PM   #12
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While Power Reserve is great, having to have a key for it is not -- that's tech dating back over 100 years.

I think the best Rolex Power Reserve you will find is in the range of 2 days/48 hours.

You can easily find watches out there with up to 8-10 day power reserve. That shouldn't be what you're buying a Rolex for.
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Old 16 October 2011, 11:02 PM   #13
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I think the best Rolex Power Reserve you will find is in the range of 2 days/48 hours.
no. Daytona has a 72 hour PR assuming chrono is not running.
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Old 16 October 2011, 11:10 PM   #14
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IWC 5001 non-precious metal should be $7-8k. You'll note many opportunistic sellers on eBay listing in the $9s and even $10s. That's too much.
I make a public promise, right here, right now, that ANY 5001's you find complete in the $7k range (assuming the case is in good shape, don't care about the strap) I will buy from you at $500 above your cost. That's any one of the 4 dial combinations.

Cheapest I've been able to find is $8500 for a fairly pre-owned one, $8200 with the wire discount.

I love it the when 'opportunistic' label is dropped by those completely unaware of the current market conditions.
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Old 17 October 2011, 12:01 AM   #15
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Here is one, nice strap, case, on deployant for $7,200: http://forums.timezone.com/index.php...=5873917&rid=0 Full set of box/papers and IWC service record.

Are you going to buy it? Why should that watch cost $8,200!? What mysterious market conditions are you referring to that price them as high as you state.

Here's another one for $7,600: http://forums.timezone.com/index.php...=5858226&rid=0 Warranty remaining

And another from Greece that comes out on the higher end of watches recently at approx. $8k USD: http://forums.timezone.com/index.php...=5849615&rid=0

$7,500: http://forums.timezone.com/index.php...=5848744&rid=0

Maybe you're talking about BNIB, which I wasn't because the person who asked the question above was asking about used. Those seem to me to be market conditions.

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Old 17 October 2011, 12:12 AM   #16
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Here is one, nice strap, case, on deployant for $7,200: http://forums.timezone.com/index.php...=5873917&rid=0 Full set of box/papers and IWC service record.

Are you going to buy it? Why should that watch cost $8,200!? What mysterious market conditions are you referring to that price them as high as you state.

Here's another one for $7,600: http://forums.timezone.com/index.php...=5858226&rid=0 Warranty remaining

Maybe you're talking about BNIB, which I wasn't because the person who asked the question above was asking about used. Those seem to me to be market conditions.
That case looks like it's been 'exacta-knifed' between 6 and 7, and the lug at 7 had a gouge in it. Sides of the case are not even pictured. You're 100% right, that watch (which is about 7 years old) should by no means cost $8200.
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That case looks like it's been 'exacta-knifed' between 6 and 7, and the lug at 7 had a gouge in it. Sides of the case are not even pictured. You're 100% right, that watch (which is about 7 years old) should by no means cost $8200.
Fair enough - that slice is pretty ugly, but what about the other ones, specifically this one for $7,600 purchased brand new in 2010: http://forums.timezone.com/index.php...=5858226&rid=0

It's virtually a brand new watch. Two virtually OEM IWC straps (those are expensive to the end user). That actually looks really lovely.

Vs this ebay watch starting at $9,450: http://www.ebay.com/itm/IWC-Portugue...ht_1169wt_1306

I consider that to be opportunistic when you can get just as lovely a watch, if not nicer/newer, for almost $2k less. In fact, that ebay seller tells you NOTHING about the watch, unlike the TZ seller.
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That's a good deal, I might buy it if you link worked

The one on eBay isn't starting at $9450, it's 'ending' at that. The seller has a 'Best Offer' option. Plus just think - at that price, going through eBay AND paypal, he will pay about $580 in fees.

Damn, we totally hijacked this thread, didn't we
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That's a good deal, I might buy it if you link worked

The one on eBay isn't starting at $9450, it's 'ending' at that. The seller has a 'Best Offer' option. Plus just think - at that price, going through eBay AND paypal, he will pay about $580 in fees.

Damn, we totally hijacked this thread, didn't we
Ah sorry, http://forums.timezone.com/index.php...=5858226&rid=0

I'm actually going to consider that one as well - looks pretty nice :)

Haha yea we hijacked it good

POWER RESERVE is fantastic though
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Ah sorry, http://forums.timezone.com/index.php...=5858226&rid=0

I'm actually going to consider that one as well - looks pretty nice :)

Haha yea we hijacked it good

POWER RESERVE is fantastic though
Ask the seller to provide 'profile' pics. It looks like the lug at '4' received some rough refinishing. Also - do the due diligence - make sure the seller is showing pics of the actual watch. Two pics 4 days apart always give me the hereby-jeebies....
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While Power Reserve is great, having to have a key for it is not -- that's tech dating back over 100 years.
I'm sure the Lange guys tried but couldn't incorporate a torque limiter into the keyless works without impacting the height of the movement and it's much easier to wind the mainspring directly. Just because it's 100 year old technology doesn't necessarily mean it's a bad solution.
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Just because it's 100 year old technology doesn't necessarily mean it's a bad solution.
I was gonna say - have we forgotten how old the "technology" behind a mechanical watch movement is?
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