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Old 15 August 2012, 03:50 AM   #1
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Tudor Vs. Omega

Can you experts chime in on why Tudor over Omega? Apart from the fact that I prefer the slightly bigger dial size, I really cant afford a Rolex at the moment.


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Old 15 August 2012, 03:53 AM   #2
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Why not save up to get the Rolex that you want? If you can't wait, Omega is offering good models with improved movements lately.
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Old 15 August 2012, 03:56 AM   #3
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I was in the same dilemma as yourself and decided to go with Tudor. I chose the Heritage Chrono simply because of the vintage feel and i wanted to "dip my toes" in the Rolex pool, eventually adding some Rolex brand pieces to my collection in the future.

I also felt that Tudor has been an up and coming brand since 2009 onwards as separating themselves from their big brother/sister Rolex by carving out their own niche in the market.
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Old 15 August 2012, 04:01 AM   #4
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I got my wife a DJ 31 mm a couple of weeks ago, and I just cant wait to get one myself. I really like the Heritage Black Bay, but am not sure its worth the price...
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Old 15 August 2012, 04:06 AM   #5
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Well what models are you comparing? Many of the newer omegas are close to 2x as much as most of the Tudors. If you get an Omega with an ETA it would be closer to the Tudors but the in house 8500 and 9300 are much more expensive.
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Old 15 August 2012, 04:06 AM   #6
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I can pick one up here (BB) in Canada on the leather strap for $3800 CAD taxes in, well worth the price.
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Old 15 August 2012, 04:43 AM   #7
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They're both quality brands so no reason to say one over the other in a blanket statement. The Tudor line has some great models like Omega. Pick the one that has the functions you want and a dial you like.
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Old 15 August 2012, 04:46 AM   #8
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What about the Pelagos? Anyone have an msrp on it?
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Old 15 August 2012, 04:51 AM   #9
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Honestly, Omega are in a different league. I think Tag vs. Tudor would be a fairer comparison
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Old 15 August 2012, 04:51 AM   #10
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$4500-$5000 cad
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Old 15 August 2012, 04:52 AM   #11
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Disagree GMT- I think any watches that both have ETA in them are comparable.
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Old 15 August 2012, 04:53 AM   #12
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Omega over Tudor in almost all comparisons unless you're looking for vintage pieces.
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Old 15 August 2012, 04:53 AM   #13
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Disagree GMT- I think any watches that both have ETA in them are comparable.
Exactly. Omega doesn't use base ETA anymore
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Old 15 August 2012, 04:56 AM   #14
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Exactly. Omega doesn't use base ETA anymore
Even when they did, I'd choose a 2254.50 over a comparable Tudor model from the same time period any day.
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Old 15 August 2012, 04:58 AM   #15
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So none of the new Omega's use ETA movements? I thought they did? I know that Tudor uses the highest spec/grade ETA
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Old 15 August 2012, 05:00 AM   #16
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IMO, unless you are talking only about the newest models, there isn't a whole lot of difference. The Speedy Pro is the biggest exception when it comes to heritage and styling.
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Old 15 August 2012, 05:07 AM   #17
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So none of the new Omega's use ETA movements? I thought they did? I know that Tudor uses the highest spec/grade ETA
The only lightly modified ETA movements are the quartz movements (which have been all-but phased out in the men's range now), and a couple of movements used in entry-level Speedmasters. The rest all use the Co-Axial escapement, of which there are two tiers:

Base tier:

Cal. 2500 (basic time & date plus variants) and Cal. 3313 (chronograph with date plus variants). These take an ETA 2892 and a Pigeut 1285 respectively, remove the standard Swiss Lever Escapement, and install Omega's exclusive Co-Axial escapement. On top of this, they are decorated to Omega's standards. This is considered a far greater modification than other mass-market brands that utilise ETA movements, which typically do little more than decorate the movement

Premium tier:

These are 100% in house movements, unique to Omega, and are about the best money can buy right now. You have the cal. 8500 time and date movement (which is technically superior to Rolex's cal. 3135) and the cal. 9300 chronograph movement. Both are formidably good timekeepers, boast impressive power reserves, and extremely long service intervals. They're in a different league to the vast majority of the Swiss watch industry now, and are right at the top of high-end luxury watches (before you go up to the hallowed ground of haute horology)

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Old 15 August 2012, 05:20 AM   #18
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What about the Pelagos? Anyone have an msrp on it?

$3900 canadian is the cdn MSRP
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Old 15 August 2012, 05:27 AM   #19
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I prefer Omega over Tudor. Stronger models IMO.
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Old 15 August 2012, 05:35 AM   #20
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Am I hearing that most of you would pick an Omega over a Tudor?
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Old 15 August 2012, 05:38 AM   #21
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It really depends on the specific models you're comparing.
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Old 15 August 2012, 05:40 AM   #22
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Great feedback GMT:

Didnt realize that Omega made such great in house movements. May have to put one of those on the want list next time im looking to add to the rotation.

Im sure that Tudor does actually modify their ETA and not just decorate it though, since they are tied to Rolex
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Great feedback GMT:

Didnt realize that Omega made such great in house movements. May have to put one of those on the want list next time im looking to add to the rotation.

Im sure that Tudor does actually modify their ETA and not just decorate it though, since they are tied to Rolex
They make very few changes to the movement (indeed, their acknowledgement that it is an ETA movement and not one of their own is why they still get supplied), and they're only tied to Rolex in the same sense that Omega is tied to Tissot - owned by the same company, but they don't share parts or designs. Certainly Rolex and Tudor used to be very similar (Rolex Oyster cases and bracelets with a non-Rolex movement), but modern Rolex and modern Tudor are poles apart.

Omega are going through a very exciting transformation right now, and are beginning to shake off the shadow of some of the frankly terrible watches they produced in the 80s and 90s. Omega are very much entering a golden age of design
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Old 15 August 2012, 05:48 AM   #24
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But like Noonan said, it really depends on which model.

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Am I hearing that most of you would pick an Omega over a Tudor?
Yes
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Old 15 August 2012, 06:37 AM   #25
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Old 15 August 2012, 07:38 AM   #26
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Very helpful, I'll be picking up a 42mm PO/2500 this afternoon.
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Old 15 August 2012, 07:52 AM   #27
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Remember to show us pictures when u get ur PO.
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Old 15 August 2012, 08:01 AM   #28
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Sorry omega all day long, just wouldn't bother with a Tudor
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Old 15 August 2012, 08:28 AM   #29
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Very helpful, I'll be picking up a 42mm PO/2500 this afternoon.
This is one of the models under consideration...for sale right here on TRF.
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Old 15 August 2012, 08:30 AM   #30
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I have owned both brands

Tudor Black Bay will make its way back into my collection, period.

Nuff said ;)
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