I May Have Been Scammed Right Here On TRF

[CaveDiver]

Try their headquard in OH and find out: 937-445-5000 they should be able to help with a phone number

[Mosco]

Originally Posted by CaveDiver

Try their headquard in OH and find out: 937-445-5000 they should be able to help with a phone number

937 area code is within 30 miles of where I live. Let me know if I need to go there.

[train-time]

Mark: Sorry to hear this, I'm hoping it all works out for you. If you need to report the info on the DJ to the authorities, the model is 116234 and the serial # is M****. Let me know if you need anything else or if there is anything I can do for you. Regards, Tim

[joeychitwood]

Originally Posted by train-time

Mark: Sorry to hear this, I'm hoping it all works out for you. If you need to report the info on the DJ to the authorities, the model is 116234 and the serial # is Mlalalalala. Let me know if you need anything else or if there is anything I can do for you. Regards, Tim

Thank you so much. I was going to contact you regarding the numbers, as I never wrote them down.

[HDHNTER]

Wish I had caught this thread earlier, unfortunately I rarely visit the WatchOut section. Has this been resolved yet? For what it's worth, Columbia is only a 40 minute drive from me, if I can be of assistance let me know.

Edit to add: had a chance to read further into the thread, very happy to hear your watches & cash were recovered!

[deserted]

There is a skip trace that can be done on this guy via phone number and or name orgin, i can put some investigators on it out of chicago , PM me for information! they have a 100% turn around rate.

[Sweramic]

I love to see how people on here get together and help. Wish I could do more from Sweden.

[Wolfgang427]

I wish I was closer to SC, I'd be paying this person a personal visit for you.

[RolexPete32]

Dam. I feel sorry for your situation. Can you let us know how it all works out.

[CaveDiver]

here are some more phone no. One of these is bound to still work. More PI work needed.
NCR Corporation‎ - more info »
1616 Gervais Street, Columbia, SC‎ - (803) 771-4340‎
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NCR‎ - more info »
3245 Platt Springs Road, West Columbia, SC‎ - (803) 739-6643‎
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NCR‎ - more info »
3325 Platt Springs Road, West Columbia, SC‎ - (803) 791-6002‎
Unverified listing
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NCR Corporation‎ - more info »
1208 Evans Street, Hartsville, SC‎ - (803) 669-7513‎
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NCR Corporation‎ - more info »
Myrtle Beach, SC‎ - (843) 444-9151‎
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NCR Corporation Service‎ - more info »
50 Directors Drive, Greenville, SC‎ - (800) 262-7782‎
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[CaveDiver]

Putting this here incase someone Google the serial number of the one of the Rolex’s taken in the scam.

Rolex Style 116234 Serial Number: M1XXXXX Taken by
Andrew Hayes
404 Waterville Dr
Columbia SC
AKA:
Hayes, Curtis A
404 Waterville Dr
Columbia, SC 29229-8131

[kcmo]

Joey, you've gotten a lot of good tips here. I REALLY hope that you're able to make some headway in finding this scumbag. I wish I could do more to help. I know EXACTLY how you feel...I do.

[sBmRnR]

30 posts, no references = no go..

Sorry to hear about this, hope it all works out for you in the end.

Gr.
sBmRnR

[Pep04]

I hate to be bring on bad news to this already horrible situation. But, I own property, and have had tenants order things online to my name. Being that the property is registered to me, there has never been anything suspicious.

I have never had anything bad happen, just got annoyed that someone would do that.

My identity was stolen in 2001 and again someone ordered a credit card in the name of the landlord. When they tracked down where items were shipped to and where the cc was mailed to, it checked out fine. When the police spoke to the land lord, he said that the renters had left and that he was receiving cash or money order for rent. He had no idea where they came from and where they went.

Maybe the case here. The registered owner of the house might be oblivious to what happened.


Good Luck dude, hope all works out.

[JRA21]

This is absolutely horrible but I do have a friend who lives in SC if me and him can do anything to help please let me know !!!!

[mcjp6]

without meaning to be trite, this is terrible news, especially so as it originated on such a respected & well found forum.

No adivise to give as so much given already but I sincerely hope that it works out for you Joey and that it does not spoil, too much, your Christmas.

all the best, Michael

[Some Pair]

OMG, what a cluster@%#k!
I feel terrible about this Joey.

I've been blessed to have great dealings on four occasions so far on this esteemed site. The first one as a newbie here.

But now in reading this, we all have learned a valuable lesson, but hopefully not at your expense.

Keep us posted in case it's been a misunderstanding with this clown, or not.
Got to find this guy. Many ideas comes to mind, none nice.

Alot of support here for you from every member post I've read since the first, regarding this misfortune.

We'll all have a good thought for you.

[Pep04]

This should serve to prove how important the trusted sellers here are. I wouldn't buy from anyone unless the majority of the people here either know or have dealt with before. You know who I am referring to.... DavidSW, Mosco, BodyBump to name a few.

I myself am trying to sell one of my watches. I expect to not be trusted as I have never sold anything on line ever. Not here, not ebay or even craigslist.... nowhere. But I offer a face to face to make someone feel more comfortable. I will even take Pay Pal.

Not to beat a dead horse, but the original seller didn't offer a face to face or show the original paper work (for which he got in trouble), or even accepted Pay Pal, I mean this dude only wanted a wire transfer. Everything about this guy was suspect.

I may be making the sale of my watch harder on myself, but I just wanted to express my concerns on buying anything of value on the internet, no matter how trusted the web site is. And besides, I have nothing to hide and am open to full disclosure.

[BASSETHOUNDS]

Originally Posted by Pep04

This should serve to prove how important the trusted sellers here are. I wouldn't buy from anyone unless the majority of the people here either know or have dealt with before. You know who I am referring to.... DavidSW, Mosco, BodyBump to name a few.

I myself am trying to sell one of my watches. I expect to not be trusted as I have never sold anything on line ever. Not here, not ebay or even craigslist.... nowhere. But I offer a face to face to make someone feel more comfortable. I will even take Pay Pal.

Not to beat a dead horse, but the original seller didn't offer a face to face or show the original paper work (for which he got in trouble), or even accepted Pay Pal, I mean this dude only wanted a wire transfer. Everything about this guy was suspect.

I may be making the sale of my watch harder on myself, but I just wanted to express my concerns on buying anything of value on the internet, no matter how trusted the web site is. And besides, I have nothing to hide and am open to full disclosure.

I'm in the same situation here , for the first time I post a watch for sale here and given it is even one of the most emblematic SS models with it , so after all this I doubt very much anybody will want to touch it . Anyway it is priced for the european market and I will only accept a face to face transaction at a Rolex AD . Shame this has to happen here at TRF , but I do think that we must not assume that because we have people like David , Greg and many others that all other people here are as honest . We don't trust Ebay but it is easier to join and post a 10.000 usd watch here with intent to defraud then on Ebay . Lets not confuse things .
Let's look at what makes a low life do such a thing : He is either a seasoned con man and he will be caught one day if not for this for another matter , he may also be someone that resorted to this given the opportunity or he is in such dire straights like many are in these times . He may lose his house , wants to give the children the usual Xmas present etc. There may be a variety of reasons , however none can justify such an act . We would have to assume that this person is only interested in cash and not the watches themselves . He will therefor seek to lay them off fast , I would contact as many pawnshops and high end watch dealers in his area .

[flyinbrian]

Sorry to hear about this, I was scammed Nov. 08 on a watch and it took me a year before I started visiting watch sites again. It's really sad situation that there are people out there like this. I hope you have better luck than I did.

[MikeyTX]

Originally Posted by flyinbrian

Sorry to hear about this, I was scammed Nov. 08 on a watch and it took me a year before I started visiting watch sites again. It's really sad situation that there are people out there like this. I hope you have better luck than I did.

Not to go off topic but as all the riding gear I've bought from you has been first class, may be y'all should handle watches.

[Jason101]

I, too, feel very bad for Joey. In the future, when all these have been resolved to Joey's satisfaction, can we then move to extracting the lessons learned from this transaction... from identifying a scammer to recovering the scammed items.

An informed community is a trustworthy one.

Best of luck to Joey and congratulations to all of you who are all supportive and knowledgeable. Very impressive!

[Pep04]

Not sure if you have this info or if it is of any help. But here it is anyways:

Tax Map Number:
Owner:
Address 1:
Address 2:
Address 3
City/State/Zip:
Property Location/Code:
Tax Information
Year:
Property Tax Relief:
Local Option Sales
Tax Credit:
Tax Amount:
Paid:
Homestead:
Assessed:
Assessment Information
Year Of Assessment: Legal Residence:
Tax District: Sewer Connection:
Acreage Of Parcel: Water Connection:
Non-Agriculture Value: Agriculture Value:
Building Value: Improvements:
Taxable Value:
Zoning:
Property Information
Legal Description:

Land Type:
Sales History
Current Owner Name Sale Date Vacant or Improved Deed Book/Page Sale Price
HAYES CURTIS A 07/01/2005 I R1070/ 534 $144,900.00
BRANHAM WILLIAM B & MEREDITH G 12/21/2001 I R0605/ 2736 $120,500.00
FOWKE JAY H & MICHELLE K 04/26/2000 R0403/ 2555 $0.00
C & C BUILDERS INC 08/18/1999 V R0337/ 96 $40,000.00
HIGHLANDS DEVELOPMENT LTD PTR 02/20/1996 D1302/ 636 $0.00

Structure Information
Building Number Year Structure Was Assessed Building Description Actual Year Built Number Of Bathrooms Number Of Bedrooms Total Number Of Stories Heated Square Footage Total Square Footage
1 2009 SGL FAM - WALL GROUP 3 2000 0.00 0 0.0 1695 2143

Structure Details
Structure Type Structure Description Building Number
Building Element AC TYPE...HEAT PUMP 1
Building Element ALARM/SMOKE...ALARM/SMOKE 1
Building Element ARCHITECTURAL STYLE...CONVENTIONAL 1
Building Element BUILDING SHAPE...L 1
Building Element DISHWASHER...DISHWASHER 1
Building Element DISPOSAL...DISPOSAL 1
Building Element ELECTRICAL...AVERAGE 1
Building Element EXTERIOR WALL 1...ALUMINUM OR VINYL 1
Building Element FOUNDATION...PIERS 1
Building Element HEAT TYPE/FUEL...FORCED AIR DUC/GAS 1
Building Element INSULATION...AVERAGE 1
Building Element INTERIOR FLOOR 1...CARPET 1
Building Element INTERIOR FLOOR 2...HARDWOOD 1
Building Element INTERIOR WALL 1...3-PLASTER/DRYWALL 1
Building Element OVEN/RANGE...OVEN/RANGE 1
Building Element ROOF COVER...ASPHALT SHINGLE 1
Building Element ROOF STRUCTURE...GABLE OR HIP 1
Building Element STRUCTURAL FRAME...WOOD FRAME 1
Misc Improvement FIREPLACE-1 STY SGL/COMMERCIAL 1



And can't seem to find arrest records for Andrew or Curtis.

[Evergreen]

Sorry to hear about the loss. I will keep an eye out on the watch forums, and other sales sites for your watches.



Its easy to tell what " TheRolex88 " was up to with his post history. All his post were in one day within a few minutes of one another. Most contained phrases like " nice watch ". He filled his post requirements in 1 day until he was able to open a for sale thread. As its been said many times before," buy the seller, then the watch "

As much as I dislike paypal, I find it offers some protection with online transactions. Wire transfers / cashiers checks/ western union are risky with unknown sellers.

[StreetGlide]

Reverse address lookup reveals;

Curtis A Hayes
404 Waterville Dr
Columbia, SC 29229-8131

[bodybump]

Joey don't loose hope..our forum is very tight that people almost know everybody...we are with you all the way..the best way to start is through the police and to the bank..don't engage to anything by yourself..this guy might not be operating by himself..a lot of law enforcement officers are members here and willing to help you..we cannot allow this to happened again in our forum..

[onkyo]

Joey,

I am very sorry this happened to you... you do not deserve it.

For everyone reading this, ONLY buy from known/referenced sellers. Paying a little more for piece of mind is worth it!!

Now, Joey go to every watch website and post pics and serials of the watches, including watchnet, timezone, watchuseek, etc. And file all the reports needed to make sure this pos does not get away with it.

Someone must live close to his address... a friendly visit is in order. Or once his work/family address is found a visit there is needed.

Good luck Joey!!!

[ocwatching]

Joey, I am surprised that I missed this thread...just wanted to drop a note of support...
I sure hope you recover what's lost...
good luck and try to make the best of these holiday season

Phil

[unclesallie]

the use of the 'mails' (which includes overnight couriers) in furtherance of a scheme to defraud is a federal offense, and I strongly disagree that it is simply civil fraud. I think a call to the local U.S. Attorney's Office is first order of business. Don't wait, that is a big mistake. The longer you wait the less likely the watches will be recovered.

Here is the fill-in form for a complaint to the U.S. Postal Inspections Service:

https://postalinspectors.uspis.gov/f...Complaint.aspx

do it now(please).......and sorry this has happened to you.

[Rob_b]

I have a feeling the scumbag will be reading this

Have you ever heard of 'six degrees of separation'

Well, a lot of people read this Forum. A lot of these people are watch enthusiasts, some will work in legal and law for sure. Usually these enthusiasts are members of other Watch Forums that are now aware of this scam.

To the scumbag, keep a look over your shoulder, you now never know just how far the law will be behind you. To think any other way would be delusional. No club, clan or gang can protect you, not forever, no how.

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