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Deyn Man · 27 August 2012, 04:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tri-Tip

Just brag that each face is hand-lettered. Different people letter in different fonts.

Adam K. · 27 August 2012, 08:46 AM

Both dials have been running on the Sub Date for some time...not a big deal, both are legit. That said I strongly prefer the aesthetics of the closely spaced version, with its long "f" and more expressive serifs.

karmatp · 27 August 2012, 11:00 AM

This is so common, Rolex has been doing this forever, no big deal at all.

It is just a different fonts from different machines I guess.

Rani Drama · 27 August 2012, 12:37 PM

Mine is like the first photo. Picked it up august 2010

Guybrush Threepwood · 29 August 2012, 03:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by karmatp

This is so common, Rolex has been doing this forever, no big deal at all.

It is just a different fonts from different machines I guess.

What I think is a bit strange is that the logo is actually a bit different, you would think a brand like Rolex would be pretty strict about their logo being 100% the same on every watch dial?

JJL · 29 August 2012, 03:58 AM

I like the bottom one more, the shorter and wider lettering... but either will do :)

Guybrush Threepwood · 6 October 2012, 02:44 AM

Anyone else have a newer Sub-C with l000 and not 1000?

Vincent65 · 6 October 2012, 02:50 AM

I like the long 'f'

rolexperfect · 6 October 2012, 04:57 AM

I am glad that the in newer the font looks more refined and less "thick"... seems like the subc just keeps getting better and better!!

Sal.shal · 31 October 2012, 04:17 PM

Damn I thought my watch was different thanks to this forum I'm able to find that my watch is not so different lol

Jeckert7 · 9 February 2013, 06:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guybrush Threepwood

Anyone else have a newer Sub-C with l000 and not 1000?

I actually have a newer SubC with the flat 1, long f and "M". Freaked me out at first until I did a bunch of research! Kind of a cool little thing that differentiates everyone's piece.

Furbo · 9 February 2013, 07:29 AM

Great catch, you guys must be pilots or something to spot that. :D

Guybrush Threepwood · 13 June 2013, 10:41 AM

Anyone have a LV with the "l000" font? I have seen several LNs out for sale with "l000" but all the LVs i've seen have "1000"

Rashid.bk · 13 June 2013, 11:33 AM

Nice find. There's a lot of differences, seems enough to be the official discovery of the Mark 1 and 2 dials.
Thanks for posting.
...."it's been going on for so long"....except that you actually provided proof. Good job.

Dr.Brian · 13 June 2013, 11:42 AM

I love the long f.
I'm going to be a nut and let you know that when I bought my new, then long discontinued Sea-Dweller, I specifically wanted a long f dial. I found other new ones, but they were not the dial I wanted. There's a short f SD on the sales corner now.
Ultimately I had to drive an hour to an AD that had one in his safe earmarked for someone else.
I guess they should have left a bigger deposit...
Life is too short to not get what you want, even something as trivial as a font.

Billywiz · 13 June 2013, 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guybrush Threepwood

July 2011

December 2011

Check the different size of the "hole" in the crown

Now that is very unusual...while fonts change a LOGO to change is very very unusual...great spot!...amazing how your eyesight gets better with a 'Jar or two'

Rashid.bk · 13 June 2013, 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Billywiz

Now that is very unusual...while fonts change a LOGO to change is very very unusual...great spot!...amazing how your eyesight gets better with a 'Jar or two'

The crown changed on the Deepsea also, it happens.

anthonybkny · 10 December 2013, 12:59 PM

May want to have a look inside the December sub. Seems all the good canal street subc's have that logo crown and long f. As well and that 1 in the 1000. I'm willing to bet that the font on the bezel is a bit fatter as well.

anthonybkny · 10 December 2013, 01:11 PM

Also, the Mercedes hand is all wonky in the December sub.

anothernewphone · 10 December 2013, 01:54 PM

Don't forget about the difference between "300m" and "300 m." Those two dials show each.

subtona · 10 December 2013, 01:58 PM

The first one is clearly better

SLS · 10 December 2013, 02:56 PM

Sorry, but I'll still take a matte dialed, plexi sub vs the modern mark dialed whatever! Just saying.

madmole · 28 November 2015, 08:46 AM

Second logo looks like its the same as the first but just less ink picked up on the transfer pad, or too much was on the first

Guybrush Threepwood · 28 November 2015, 11:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by madmole

Second logo looks like its the same as the first but just less ink picked up on the transfer pad, or too much was on the first

Different type font so it's not just the amount of ink.

Traveler3355 · 28 November 2015, 02:29 PM

very nice catch

Egelber · 28 November 2015, 03:32 PM

Babe, gas up the car, were going into town to sell the Rolex your uncle Max left us. Its a limited edition because, well because that's all you need to know. Were rich, rich I tell ya. Where's my tuxedo t-shirt, so when we go and sell it, I look like a million bucks? Aw man, I must need a new eyeglass prescription, I thought he left us a Rolex, the jeweler said it was a timex.

Blasketbanshee · 28 November 2015, 04:50 PM

My lv has the 1, not the l.
Has the small holed crown as well. Kind of like the larger holed crown.

Jfdomega · 21 January 2017, 11:44 AM

exactly, that's what i thought. i would have thought altering the logo was a no no! why do it anyway?

Jfdomega · 21 January 2017, 12:32 PM

(Swiss made) has been altered also. the s the m and the a are different!

Sydny2 · 21 January 2017, 05:49 PM

Mine is lOOO. Bought it in Dec 2016

27 August 2012, 11:00 AM	#33
karmatp "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Real Name: Trevor Location: Arizona Posts: 5,740	This is so common, Rolex has been doing this forever, no big deal at all. It is just a different fonts from different machines I guess. __________________ My grails:

27 August 2012, 12:37 PM	#34
Rani Drama "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Canada Watch: 116610LN Sub Posts: 427	Mine is like the first photo. Picked it up august 2010 __________________

13 June 2013, 11:42 AM	#45
Dr.Brian 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Real Name: Brian Location: CA dreamin' Watch: ing the market. Posts: 5,900	I love the long f. I'm going to be a nut and let you know that when I bought my new, then long discontinued Sea-Dweller, I specifically wanted a long f dial. I found other new ones, but they were not the dial I wanted. There's a short f SD on the sales corner now. Ultimately I had to drive an hour to an AD that had one in his safe earmarked for someone else. I guess they should have left a bigger deposit... Life is too short to not get what you want, even something as trivial as a font. __________________ -Brian AUDENTES FORTUNA IUVAT 十人十色

10 December 2013, 01:58 PM	#51
subtona "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Real Name: gus Location: East Coast Watch: APK & sometimes Y Posts: 25,996	The first one is clearly better __________________

10 December 2013, 02:56 PM	#52
SLS "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Real Name: Scott Location: GMT -7 Watch: GMT's & Sub's Posts: 10,399	Sorry, but I'll still take a matte dialed, plexi sub vs the modern mark dialed whatever! Just saying. __________________ "The bitterness of poor quality remains long after the sweetness of lower price is forgotten." -Benjamin Franklin Member No. 922

27 August 2012, 08:46 AM	#32
Adam K. Banned Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: WA Watch: All the Oysters Posts: 811	Both dials have been running on the Sub Date for some time...not a big deal, both are legit. That said I strongly prefer the aesthetics of the closely spaced version, with its long "f" and more expressive serifs.

29 August 2012, 03:58 AM	#36
JJL "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: US Watch: 1680 Red & 16622 Posts: 2,449	I like the bottom one more, the shorter and wider lettering... but either will do :)

6 October 2012, 02:44 AM	#37
Guybrush Threepwood "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Space Posts: 28	Anyone else have a newer Sub-C with l000 and not 1000?

6 October 2012, 02:50 AM	#38
Vincent65 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Switzerland Posts: 14,293	I like the long 'f'

6 October 2012, 04:57 AM	#39
rolexperfect "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: around the world Watch: 116506 Posts: 1,370	I am glad that the in newer the font looks more refined and less "thick"... seems like the subc just keeps getting better and better!!

31 October 2012, 04:17 PM	#40
Sal.shal "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Brooklyn NY Watch: SubC Posts: 18	Damn I thought my watch was different thanks to this forum I'm able to find that my watch is not so different lol

9 February 2013, 07:29 AM	#42
Furbo "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Slovenia, EU Watch: BLNR Posts: 1,507	Great catch, you guys must be pilots or something to spot that. :D

13 June 2013, 10:41 AM	#43
Guybrush Threepwood "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Space Posts: 28	Anyone have a LV with the "l000" font? I have seen several LNs out for sale with "l000" but all the LVs i've seen have "1000"

13 June 2013, 11:33 AM	#44
Rashid.bk "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Dallas Watch: 12800ft = 3900m Posts: 11,172	Nice find. There's a lot of differences, seems enough to be the official discovery of the Mark 1 and 2 dials. Thanks for posting. ...."it's been going on for so long"....except that you actually provided proof. Good job.

10 December 2013, 12:59 PM	#48
anthonybkny Banned Join Date: Nov 2013 Real Name: Anthony Location: NYC Posts: 70	May want to have a look inside the December sub. Seems all the good canal street subc's have that logo crown and long f. As well and that 1 in the 1000. I'm willing to bet that the font on the bezel is a bit fatter as well.

10 December 2013, 01:11 PM	#49
anthonybkny Banned Join Date: Nov 2013 Real Name: Anthony Location: NYC Posts: 70	Also, the Mercedes hand is all wonky in the December sub.

10 December 2013, 01:54 PM	#50
anothernewphone Banned Join Date: Feb 2013 Real Name: Bill Location: Plymouth Meeting Watch: 116520 Posts: 3,209	Don't forget about the difference between "300m" and "300 m." Those two dials show each.

28 November 2015, 08:46 AM	#53
madmole "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Real Name: Stephen Location: London Watch: 116610LN Posts: 115	Second logo looks like its the same as the first but just less ink picked up on the transfer pad, or too much was on the first

28 November 2015, 02:29 PM	#55
Traveler3355 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: North America Posts: 34	very nice catch

28 November 2015, 03:32 PM	#56
Egelber "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: Elliott Location: Prosper, Texas Watch: Sub 114060 2019 Posts: 410	Babe, gas up the car, were going into town to sell the Rolex your uncle Max left us. Its a limited edition because, well because that's all you need to know. Were rich, rich I tell ya. Where's my tuxedo t-shirt, so when we go and sell it, I look like a million bucks? Aw man, I must need a new eyeglass prescription, I thought he left us a Rolex, the jeweler said it was a timex.

28 November 2015, 04:50 PM	#57
Blasketbanshee "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2015 Real Name: Will Location: Seattle Watch: out for door jambs Posts: 85	My lv has the 1, not the l. Has the small holed crown as well. Kind of like the larger holed crown.

21 January 2017, 11:44 AM	#58
Jfdomega "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: Uk Posts: 29	exactly, that's what i thought. i would have thought altering the logo was a no no! why do it anyway?

21 January 2017, 12:32 PM	#59
Jfdomega "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: Uk Posts: 29	(Swiss made) has been altered also. the s the m and the a are different!

21 January 2017, 05:49 PM	#60
Sydny2 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2016 Location: Chicago Watch: SubC, GMT Posts: 248	Mine is lOOO. Bought it in Dec 2016

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