Craziest piece offered....

[time_and_cars]

Originally Posted by Rolexnabzy

Wow interesting set of replies....lol

Where to begin....if you look at my previous posts you will see that I have relationships with multiple ADs over 3 countries....let say in one of these countries where Business practices can be questionable at times (which is in fact my country of origin,) the AD gets these one off pieces on very very rare occasions and will 'set his price' and offer it a number of his VIP clients....I would say my personal relationship with the AD whom i am very close with is more of a reason I am added in such a client offering list more than my spend....truth is this is well above my budget for a watch as the price I was quoted was more of a house range as far as I'm concerned...also I am not a flipper so I wouldn't buy it to simply make a profit as I wear my watches....

As for not obtaining a Sprite or celebration from this dealer and hopefully soon a blue or green steel Skydweller....thats just a matter of patience which sadly at times I'm lacking, he does not get the kind of voluminous stock other countries may get...and at the end of the day I'm not his only close/VIP client but to be fair in '24 he has already blessed me with a Pepsi, Batgirl, Batman (Dad) and a mk2 LV so can't really complain....

And to set the record straight I was offered a VTNR but on oyster not jubilee

Oh boy youre full of bullshiittt

[Cambo]

Originally Posted by Rolexnabzy

Actually enjoying the banter, and can roll with the punches and come out smiling as that's my nature to usually do so...

Look, I understand that many people on this forum are constrained logistically/geographically to the mercy of a few ADs in their area so trying to understand how someone can be offered a Rainbow Daytona (perhaps retail perhaps not) before a Sprite or Celebration can be hard to fathom...I get it...

Truth is I can get on a plane, fly 2 and half hours and visit 3 ADs in different countries where I speak the local languages and thus have access to their specific markets....each country has its own unique selling practices and while many are similar there are of course differences to the point where one off pieces like this are made available to semi regular folks like myself before even a Blue skydweller or celebration thats just the nature of their specific market....bottom line is even with all these perceived advantages I still need to go gray from time to time....so good luck to all of us

Nice….er…..flex(?)
I can’t buy into this

[huncho]

Originally Posted by Rolexnabzy

Look, I understand that many people on this forum are constrained logistically/geographically to the mercy of a few ADs in their area so trying to understand how someone can be offered a Rainbow Daytona (perhaps retail perhaps not) before a Sprite or Celebration can be hard to fathom...I get it...

Truth is I can get on a plane, fly 2 and half hours and visit 3 ADs in different countries where I speak the local languages and thus have access to their specific markets....each country has its own unique selling practices and while many are similar there are of course differences to the point where one off pieces like this are made available to semi regular folks like myself before even a Blue skydweller or celebration thats just the nature of their specific market....bottom line is even with all these perceived advantages I still need to go gray from time to time....so good luck to all of us

you keep bringing this up and patting yourself on the back for it in other threads too and it's just a weird flex. ironically it's completely irrelevant here because when someone says "offered" it typically means at retail, otherwise being offered to buy a watch at market price isn't anything worthy of bringing up since everyone else has access to it at that point too

[Vanyo]

I was offered this oyster flex Sky Dweller. Not my style at all )

[Carguy87]

Originally Posted by Vanyo

I was offered this oyster flex Sky Dweller. Not my style at all )

Wow I’ve never seen this; thanks for sharing! Dig the meteorite; don’t need the pave case lol

[Vanyo]

Originally Posted by Carguy87

Wow I’ve never seen this; thanks for sharing! Dig the meteorite; don’t need the pave case lol

For me as well. The story behind. In the Netherlands, there is Masters Expo where luxury goods and luxury lifestyle items are exhibited. My local AD has a big stand there with a bunch of different watch and jewelry brands. Rolex is there. One day of the exhibition is a VIP day where AD proposes to its known clients virtually everything on the stands except, may be, a Platinum Daytona. This piece was offered to me.

[Sublovin]

If it isn’t MSRP or below, from an AD, then it really isn’t an “offer”. We could all say that any watch listed for sale on the internet is being “offered “

[Divingdeep87]

Was offered this crazy piece when I picked up my steel daytona a couple of weeks ago.


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[Topspin14m]

Originally Posted by Divingdeep87

Was offered this crazy piece when I picked up my steel daytona a couple of weeks ago.


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Got offered that one too when I got my Daytona! But in white gold. A lot of bling!!

[Mick006]

Originally Posted by Sublovin

If it isn’t MSRP or below, from an AD, then it really isn’t an “offer”. We could all say that any watch listed for sale on the internet is being “offered “

Yes, this is the issue with the OP.

I am currently being offered every watch on chrono24.

[ltmgeller]

I've never been offered, just requested.

[4reRlxGuy]

In my 30 yrs of collecting this is the craziest piece I've been offered

[4reRlxGuy]

Sorry

[Tzachi]

When it wasn't so popular.

[Rolexnabzy]

Really enjoying the thread, even those posts which might be deemed negative or green eyed....in the end I'm here to understand other views and maybe try to impart some of mine as well

So let's address the whole 'retail/msrp/offered,' confusion...

Let me first say I was taken aback by the amount of visceral reaction to my post as I just thought it would be nice to see some crazy one off type pieces people might have encountered on their journey's ....alas it was met with so much green eyed envy it became amusing to me especially as I have mentioned I'm not interested in the piece and really couldn't even justify the cost given finances...but anyways...

I understand the majority of people on this board come from countries that have stable economies, currencies, tax regulations, sales tax.....and possibly only encountered similar set countries on their travels...alas that's simply not the case everywhere...

My country of origin is Pakistan and this where I was offered this piece as well as another I will refer to later....the reason why I do not mention the name so openly is that it gets a pretty bad rap in most cases and one quick google search will easily explain the general economic situation there....

So please understand the following....and see that retail, msrp, offered can be quite relative terms and not so black and white

1. The tax rate on imported goods is 25%....right there a number of people will say damn if I have to pay 25% on top that's hardly retail, especially compared to what I can purchase it for in my home country....and I could definitely see that side of the argument as many 'regular' obtainable watches cost more at retail here than in the gray market elsewhere....but that's his retail due to tax...

2. The currency is unstable and has devalued massively against the dollar over the past 5 years...and as many will appreciate companies have to hedge on pricing when currencies have the propensity to fluctuate, this can cause pricing to be unstable and fluctuate...also every 3 months I hear the world default, which I'm sure is not helpful either....

So given the above how do I price pieces from Pakistan and understand sor accept they are 'retail' ...I take my home base country where I have the best and easiest access to watches...Saudi Arabia..where tax is at 15% and simply add the 10% for his tax regulations then given all the points mentioned above accept a maximum 5% on top....yes I know it's crude but I think in the grand scheme of things 'fair'....

As an example...I purchased a 24 Pepsi from Pakistan....retail price in Saudi...13,150$...I paid about 12% more at $14,750....now he told me that was his retail....given the extra 10% for tax from my base country am I going to really argue over 2% given all the other factors and when the gray market is north of 20k....hell no

What I can say for certain is that it's fairly easy to understand the 'premium' over my base country on a sub 15k watch....but then try to apply that to a watch that costs hunderd of thousands...no way....Firstly I have no idea what 'retail' on such a one off type piece would be and I can hazard a guess many rolex afficionado on here would have similar problems...but if anyone can help that would be great....also what is the pricing policy from rolex on such a pieces, is there an actual msrp or do they tell dealers they can market adjust based on their market....I have no idea, again if someone can enlighten me that would be great....bottom line is this particular watch was not one I was interested in so I didn't do the research, in fact if I'm being brutally honest it looks like a child has thrown up skittles all over a Daytona...

So is paying 12 % more than my base country considered retail or not...is the currency issue a fair one to price at 3 or 4% ....like I said it's all relative....what I do know is that he has never gone above 13-14% for a 'regular' watch above my base country and for me that's retail and offered...but you can appreciare the difficulty in understanding what is actually retail as you might know it or understandit....if someone wants to do the legwork and get the msrp for the daytona I will be happy to see if it was really 'offered' or not....as for the other off catalog piece I mentioned I will do that in another post as this one has dragged...my apologies...I just hope this clarifies things

[Rolexnabzy]

Originally Posted by huncho

you keep bringing this up and patting yourself on the back for it in other threads too and it's just a weird flex. ironically it's completely irrelevant here because when someone says "offered" it typically means at retail, otherwise being offered to buy a watch at market price isn't anything worthy of bringing up since everyone else has access to it at that point too

Yes I suppose it is a flex or perceived advantage if you will....but weird....I don't think so...I'm sure there are many multi nationaled, multi linguled folks like myself who are geographically well placed and thus have the ability to hop on a plane and travel on short flights to conduct their purchases/business In a number of neighboring countries...hell im sure people on here have driven longer than i have flown to buy things....bottom line ...plane travel is now easy, frequent and cheap....and it allows me to access very different markets and inventories in a number of countries where i am treated like a local due to language which as many on here will tell you is a massive advantage in the watch market....like a wise man once said....don't hate the player, hate the game

As for the offered part, I hope I addressed the point below, if not shoot another post by all means...look forward to continuing the chat...

[Rolexnabzy]

Originally Posted by rootbeer7

I’m now living my life vicariously through you

Welcome aboard....next stop your home town London to pick up a few watches from the gray market

[codecow]

My AD suggested that in the last decade he remembered delivering one rainbow. My guess was 3. That’s a rare piece.