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Verydark · 11 December 2009, 09:04 PM

Hello, i´m about to get my first Rolex. It will be –for sure- a Sub 5513 or a 14060 (non M), i could get a recent one for about the same price but I much prefer the 5513 plexi or the tritium dial on the 14060 than the actual 14060M. The question is simple, will a 12 to 20 or even more years old Rolex last and stand ok for daily wear? My intention is to use it without being afraid of damage it since Rolex service can always repair it fast and efficiently but i´m a little bit concerned since I´m used to new or almost new watches that I eventually flip quite soon. I´ve also considered wait until the new Submariner is released with the updated bracelet, ceramic bezel… but, apart from the higher price i´m not really sure I will like it in the flesh… So, should I be worried?? should i wait for the new model?? should i get a recent 14060M and forget plexi or tritium dials??

Nicko · 11 December 2009, 09:09 PM

Here is my 12 year old SD....Runs like a charm, just had it serviced. IMO the older Subs have more character and for that I bought used. I also like the fact that I picked this one up for less than $4k. BTW, where in Spain are you?

padi56 · 11 December 2009, 09:42 PM

The 5512/3 or the 14060 will be fine for daily wear without any problem whatsoever. I regularly wear a Rolex Unicorn from 1922 and expect that old timer will be still ticking when my own ticker stops.

mike · 11 December 2009, 09:42 PM

This one's a bit older. Makes a great everyday watch.

pz93c · 12 December 2009, 01:52 AM

A DateJust from 1968 is my daily wear.

No trouble out of it. Runs like a champ.

Go for it.

sea-dweller · 12 December 2009, 01:58 AM

Here is a photo of my first Rolex (which I still have) a 14060 purchased in Feb 1994 (will be 16 years old in a few months).

It has been babied and I still wear it 10-12 times a year -

Speed · 12 December 2009, 02:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mike

This one's a bit older. Makes a great everyday watch.

Mike,

(sorry for the minor hijack)

Can you give the specs on this gorgeous watch again??? Series, etc. etc.

I think I am going to put this on the wish list...along with a 1680 Red or White. However, finding a good / original Red seems to be a more laborious / risky proposition.

goduke1 · 12 December 2009, 02:03 AM

I wear my Air-King from '72 everyday. 37 years old. No problems!

sakuraba · 12 December 2009, 02:04 AM

FWIW my mom's daily wear is a 1943 Lady DJ. Absolutely no problems. She is pretty fastidious about the 5 year servicing, which I would credit for its excellent condition.

sakuraba · 12 December 2009, 02:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by masugu

I think I am going to put this on the wish list...along with a 1680 Red or White. However, finding a good / original Red seems to be a more laborious / risky proposition.

Going the vintage route, buddy?

Tools · 12 December 2009, 02:06 AM

If you want a plastic Sub, you need to go back to the 5513....and 20 years.. But it will hold up just fine in daily wear..

Don't know why you want to differentiate between the 14060 and the 14060M.. The watches cannot be told apart visually except for the trit dial (which probably won't glow any more). Any 14060 that has had a dial replacement though, will have the Luminova dial...

Any of the three will be a fine choice and look the same from an arms length away..

submariner16610 · 12 December 2009, 02:12 AM

ill go for the new one and 4get the old one..

GoldenBear · 12 December 2009, 02:23 AM

I got a new one 20 years ago. I have used it daily and it is still good as new. It is great to have a new one, but they age well.

sakuraba · 12 December 2009, 02:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tools

Don't know why you want to differentiate between the 14060 and the 14060M.. The watches cannot be told apart visually except for the trit dial (which probably won't glow any more). Any 14060 that has had a dial replacement though, will have the Luminova dial...

I didn't even know there was a difference!
Thanks for expanding our knowledge, Larry.

I love TRF!

zidaneong · 12 December 2009, 02:27 AM

My TT DJ of 20yrs runs well too. :)

padi56 · 12 December 2009, 02:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sakuraba

I didn't even know there was a difference!
Thanks for expanding our knowledge, Larry.

I love TRF!

Plus the 14060M the M is for modified movement from the Cal 3000 to Cal 3130 which is basically a 3135 without the date wheel.All of Rolex movements now except the chronos are just clones of the 3135 with or without added complications.

Speed · 12 December 2009, 02:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sakuraba

Going the vintage route, buddy?

That's next on the agenda...but not for a while. Low on cash right now!

sakuraba · 12 December 2009, 02:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by padi56

Plus the 14060M the M is for modified movement from the Cal 3000 to Cal 3130 which is basically a 3135 without the date wheel.All of Rolex movements now except the chronos are just clones of the 3135 with or without added complications.

Thanks, Padi!

I will no longer overlook the "M".

sakuraba · 12 December 2009, 02:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by masugu

That's next on the agenda...but not for a while. Low on cash right now!

I know you're particular about box and papers. You'll go nuts finding vintage pieces that still have them.

sorry for the hijack OP

padi56 · 12 December 2009, 03:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sakuraba

FWIW my mom's daily wear is a 1943 Lady DJ. Absolutely no problems. She is pretty fastidious about the 5 year servicing, which I would credit for its excellent condition.

The DJ was not introduced until 1945

Poohsan · 12 December 2009, 04:13 AM

My Submariner 1680 is 36 years old. It is a good example of an older watch. It was serviced and has no issues. The Tritium dial and hands still glow at night. I do not baby the watch and I’m sure the previous owner did not as well. This is by far my most comfortable Rolex as it is extremely light compared to a modern sub. I wear it weeks on end with out an issue. I would recommend a modern bracelet vs. a folded bracelet as it is easier to get parts and service.

Gonerafting · 12 December 2009, 06:33 AM

Here's my Dad's 5508, I wear it daily, 1958 version, keeps perfect!

time

datejust1 · 12 December 2009, 07:20 AM

I'd go with the old one. As most of u have said, Older ones have more character.

JimSnyder · 12 December 2009, 04:01 PM

18 years old and looking good

Alsey · 12 December 2009, 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mike

This one's a bit older. Makes a great everyday watch.

Mike has posted this shot several times in the last few wks.....I love it

GeoGio Greece · 12 December 2009, 04:35 PM

This is my newest from 1993. Judge for yourself !

This is quite old, in perfect condition, the photo is not good.

erasuretim · 12 December 2009, 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gonerafting

Here's my Dad's 5508, I wear it daily, 1958 version, keeps perfect!

time

Wow! Can we see more pics please ?

tim

Alsey · 12 December 2009, 10:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GeoGio Greece

This is my newest from 1993. Judge for yourself !

This is quite old, in perfect condition, the photo is not good.

oh no....another GMT with the Jubilee, got me thinking about it again

slcbbrown · 13 December 2009, 07:53 AM

My everyday watch is a 50's tt tog. My last one was a 1973 tt GMT, that one of my sons now uses as his everyday watch. 15-20 years is nothing on a Rolex.

KarlFr · 13 December 2009, 07:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gonerafting

Here's my Dad's 5508, I wear it daily, 1958 version, keeps perfect!

time

That's a rare sight

Nice to see it hasn't retired in a safe

11 December 2009, 09:04 PM	#1
Verydark Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Spain Posts: 16	How does a 15 years old Rolex stands today....?? Hello, i´m about to get my first Rolex. It will be –for sure- a Sub 5513 or a 14060 (non M), i could get a recent one for about the same price but I much prefer the 5513 plexi or the tritium dial on the 14060 than the actual 14060M. The question is simple, will a 12 to 20 or even more years old Rolex last and stand ok for daily wear? My intention is to use it without being afraid of damage it since Rolex service can always repair it fast and efficiently but i´m a little bit concerned since I´m used to new or almost new watches that I eventually flip quite soon. I´ve also considered wait until the new Submariner is released with the updated bracelet, ceramic bezel… but, apart from the higher price i´m not really sure I will like it in the flesh… So, should I be worried?? should i wait for the new model?? should i get a recent 14060M and forget plexi or tritium dials??

11 December 2009, 09:42 PM	#3
padi56 "TRF" Life Patron Join Date: Jun 2005 Real Name: Peter Location: Llanfairpwllgwyng Watch: ing you. Posts: 52,232	The 5512/3 or the 14060 will be fine for daily wear without any problem whatsoever. I regularly wear a Rolex Unicorn from 1922 and expect that old timer will be still ticking when my own ticker stops. __________________ ICom Pro3 All posts are my own opinion and my opinion only. "The clock of life is wound but once, and no man has the power to tell just when the hands will stop. Now is the only time you actually own the time, Place no faith in time, for the clock may soon be still for ever." Good Judgement comes from experience,experience comes from Bad Judgement,.Buy quality, cry once; buy cheap, cry again and again. www.mc0yad.club Second in command CEO and left handed watch winder

12 December 2009, 01:58 AM	#6
sea-dweller "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Real Name: Dennis Location: Bay Area - 925 Posts: 40,018	Here is a photo of my first Rolex (which I still have) a 14060 purchased in Feb 1994 (will be 16 years old in a few months). It has been babied and I still wear it 10-12 times a year - __________________ TRF Member #6699 (since September 2007)

12 December 2009, 02:03 AM	#8
goduke1 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Real Name: Chris Location: North Carolina Watch: 72' Rolex Air King Posts: 421	I wear my Air-King from '72 everyday. 37 years old. No problems! __________________ Rolex Air-King 5500 Omega Seamaster Pro 300

12 December 2009, 02:06 AM	#11
Tools TRF Moderator & 2024 DATE-JUST41 Patron Join Date: May 2007 Real Name: Larry Location: Mojave Desert Watch: GMT's Posts: 43,037	If you want a plastic Sub, you need to go back to the 5513....and 20 years.. But it will hold up just fine in daily wear.. Don't know why you want to differentiate between the 14060 and the 14060M.. The watches cannot be told apart visually except for the trit dial (which probably won't glow any more). Any 14060 that has had a dial replacement though, will have the Luminova dial... Any of the three will be a fine choice and look the same from an arms length away.. __________________ (Chill ... It's just a watch Forum.....) NAWCC Member

11 December 2009, 09:09 PM	#2
Nicko Banned Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Not here anymore Posts: 4,787	Here is my 12 year old SD....Runs like a charm, just had it serviced. IMO the older Subs have more character and for that I bought used. I also like the fact that I picked this one up for less than $4k. BTW, where in Spain are you?

11 December 2009, 09:42 PM	#4
mike "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 22,683	This one's a bit older. Makes a great everyday watch.

12 December 2009, 01:52 AM	#5
pz93c "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: Brian Location: Republic of Texas Posts: 2,776	A DateJust from 1968 is my daily wear. No trouble out of it. Runs like a champ. Go for it.

12 December 2009, 02:04 AM	#9
sakuraba "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2009 Real Name: Jib Location: SJ, California Watch: sun dial Posts: 8,189	FWIW my mom's daily wear is a 1943 Lady DJ. Absolutely no problems. She is pretty fastidious about the 5 year servicing, which I would credit for its excellent condition.

12 December 2009, 02:12 AM	#12
submariner16610 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: united states Watch: submariner,daytona Posts: 707	ill go for the new one and 4get the old one..

12 December 2009, 02:23 AM	#13
GoldenBear "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: San Francisco Watch: Submariner Posts: 2,480	I got a new one 20 years ago. I have used it daily and it is still good as new. It is great to have a new one, but they age well. __________________ ____________________________________________ Rolex Blue TT Submariner Rolex SS Submariner Breitling Emergency Mission They are just watches, wear 'em. ____________________________________________

12 December 2009, 02:27 AM	#15
zidaneong "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Singapore Watch: Rolex YG Datejust Posts: 274	My TT DJ of 20yrs runs well too. :) __________________ [1] Rolex TT Blue Dial Submariner 16613 (M serial) [2] Rolex YG Datejust 16018 (8 mil Serial) [3] Rolex YG Datejust 16238 (L Serial) [4] Rolex YG Gold Crystal Daytona 116518 [5] Patek Philippe SS Aquanaut 5065

12 December 2009, 04:13 AM	#21
Poohsan "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Real Name: Arron Location: phoenix, AZ Watch: GMT 1675 Posts: 764	My Submariner 1680 is 36 years old. It is a good example of an older watch. It was serviced and has no issues. The Tritium dial and hands still glow at night. I do not baby the watch and I’m sure the previous owner did not as well. This is by far my most comfortable Rolex as it is extremely light compared to a modern sub. I wear it weeks on end with out an issue. I would recommend a modern bracelet vs. a folded bracelet as it is easier to get parts and service.

12 December 2009, 07:20 AM	#23
datejust1 Banned Join Date: Sep 2009 Real Name: G Location: N/A Watch: N/A Posts: 6,042	I'd go with the old one. As most of u have said, Older ones have more character.

12 December 2009, 04:35 PM	#26
GeoGio Greece "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Real Name: George Location: Athens, Greece Watch: es --> A lot ! Posts: 2,327	This is my newest from 1993. Judge for yourself ! This is quite old, in perfect condition, the photo is not good. __________________ Rolex owner since 1971. 5513 and 16700 the loved ones. DJ WG Jubilee 16170 for wife - U series Oyster Perpetual WG 177234 for daughter V-series

13 December 2009, 07:53 AM	#29
slcbbrown "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2009 Real Name: steve Location: dallas area Watch: 50's TT t-bird Posts: 3,688	My everyday watch is a 50's tt tog. My last one was a 1973 tt GMT, that one of my sons now uses as his everyday watch. 15-20 years is nothing on a Rolex.

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