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Rscmaine · 4 May 2010, 08:34 AM

I had to appear in court today (non criminal case - I was a witness) and I wore a custom tailored Brooks Brothers suit ($1200), tailored Brooks Bros French Cuff shirt ($150), Johnston and Murphy wingtip shoes ($265), 18K cufflinks ($1500), 2 CT Diamond ring ($4,000), Two Tone Rolex Submariner Watch ($9,300) - and drove up in my nice Cadillac Deville. (+$).

We won.

Part of the 'testimony' was me running videos on a laptop on the judges bench - with my 16613 8 inches in front of his nose while he watched the (very incriminating) 8 minute video on a computer.

Beyond the fact that that our case was overwhelmingly in our favor....do you think the Sub had any positive effect?

????????

sakuraba · 4 May 2010, 08:35 AM

You sure it wasn't the cufflinks,Nat?

Idle Swede · 4 May 2010, 08:37 AM

Did you give the judge your watch?

Omega_Precision · 4 May 2010, 08:40 AM

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I had to appear in court today (non criminal case - I was a witness) and I wore a custom tailored Brooks Brothers suit ($1200), tailored Brooks Bros French Cuff shirt ($150), Johnston and Murphy wingtip shoes ($265), 18K cufflinks ($1500), 2 CT Diamond ring ($4,000), Two Tone Rolex Submariner Watch ($9,300) - and drove up in my nice Cadillac Deville. (+$).

How much did your lunch cost and how much did you tip?

Perhaps it was your skill and presentation rather than cost.....

Atl · 4 May 2010, 08:41 AM

"It was the shoes, gotta be the shoes!" Spike Lee

Aeternitas · 4 May 2010, 08:43 AM

In general. No. Of course, you have some leeway as a witness. But in general, no. Not as a lawyer (for either side, really). And never, EVER, as a defendant.

smallcandle · 4 May 2010, 08:49 AM

I'm often told that we have a "somewhat" corrupt court system, so what do you reckon?

BTW, I spent $16 on dinner last night.

moviefreak · 4 May 2010, 08:51 AM

Ask O.J Simpson..

Thomas · 4 May 2010, 08:51 AM

My guess is that the only effect the Sub had was that you knew what time it was.

viper · 4 May 2010, 08:51 AM

naahh, you'd be surprised how many people dont even notice that stuff

gt3pilot · 4 May 2010, 08:54 AM

I've won many cases wearing a Mens warehouse suit, Sketcher shoes, a cheap shirt with plastic buttons, no jewelry and just a SS Rolex. Drove my city owned Crown Vic to court. Not sure what the value of the things you were wearing and driving has to do the outcome of your case and why we would need to know, just wondering ?

-Scott B.

snowbird · 4 May 2010, 08:58 AM

Nice watch but I really doubt it had any impact on the outcome of the case.

TimeToGo · 4 May 2010, 09:24 AM

Sometimes the Jury does not like to see that. Plain Joe the defendant against the big Government or Corporation.

Don't get me wrong, if they did the crime....So be it! Whoever prosecuted them spent the $$$ for the research or expertise, that is also a job.

But if that is how you dress, there is no need to change.

Aeternitas · 4 May 2010, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by gt3pilot

I've won many cases wearing a Mens warehouse suit, Sketcher shoes, a cheap shirt with plastic buttons, no jewelry and just a SS Rolex. Drove my city owned Crown Vic to court. Not sure what the value of the things you were wearing and driving has to do the outcome of your case and why we would need to know, just wondering ?

I don't think it's really a question of value per se. It has more to do with flash, for lack of a better word. Most SS Rolexes, excluding the Submariner, are pretty low key. Something like a TT Sub or a YG Presidential screams money, which is not something that is particularly advantageous in a courtroom when a jury is involved.

Lol-x · 4 May 2010, 09:52 AM

I think if you pose with a show of wealth of jewellery it may go against you subconsciously in that your testimony, depending on the case, may be considered in a somewhat different light.

Not sure if it good or bad. I'd try to win the case on its merits rather than what is on your wrist

Melanotaenia · 4 May 2010, 09:53 AM

Nope. The same results would have been had with a 200 dollar suit. But why look bad if you can look good right?? That's my motto. If it weren't my motto we would all be wearing Casio watches and 20 year old sneakers LOL.

gmaines · 4 May 2010, 09:58 AM

It was the shirt and shoes....

gt3pilot · 4 May 2010, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Aeternitas

I don't think it's really a question of value per se. It has more to do with flash, for lack of a better word. Most SS Rolexes, excluding the Submariner, are pretty low key. Something like a TT Sub or a YG Presidential screams money, which is not something that is particularly advantageous in a courtroom when a jury is involved.

My point was that I didn't understand why the OP needed to point out the high price of everything(besides the watch) he was wearing and driving to court. It really had nothing to do with the case or his question about the watch effecting the outcome. Just my opinion.

-Scott B.

Art 1 · 4 May 2010, 10:11 AM

A buddy of mine is a lawyer who represents insurance companies in court. He never wears a nice watch or overly expensive suits when going before a jury.

Dr.Brian · 4 May 2010, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Art 1

A buddy of mine is a lawyer who represents insurance companies in court. He never wears a nice watch or overly expensive suits when going before a jury.

I would think that is the way to go with a jury trial. Clean, pressed, professional. Nothing to make the average joes/joe-ettes on the jury take notice. You're not scoring any points with the working class by looking like a rich guy that maybe needs to be taught a lesson in humility.

Chipmunk · 4 May 2010, 10:23 AM

....do you think the Sub had any positive effect?

[/QUOTE]

I don't think so....unless the jury were all WISs.

CoopJr · 4 May 2010, 10:35 AM

I think you over paid for that sub!

uracowman · 4 May 2010, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Rscmaine

Johnston and Murphy wingtip shoes ($265), 18K cufflinks ($1500), 2 CT Diamond ring ($4,000), Two Tone Rolex Submariner Watch ($9,300) - and drove up in my nice Cadillac Deville. (+$).

Did you make sure to bring your crystal tipped cane and a purple top hat?

cstegall · 4 May 2010, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Rscmaine

I had to appear in court today (non criminal case - I was a witness) and I wore a custom tailored Brooks Brothers suit ($1200), tailored Brooks Bros French Cuff shirt ($150), Johnston and Murphy wingtip shoes ($265), 18K cufflinks ($1500), 2 CT Diamond ring ($4,000), Two Tone Rolex Submariner Watch ($9,300) - and drove up in my nice Cadillac Deville. (+$).

We won.

Part of the 'testimony' was me running videos on a laptop on the judges bench - with my 16613 8 inches in front of his nose while he watched the (very incriminating) 8 minute video on a computer.

Beyond the fact that that our case was overwhelmingly in our favor....do you think the Sub had any positive effect?

????????

If you pawned all your stuff and the Sub....you could have gone in there with a gold Daytona. Sure...you would have been naked and those leather seats in the caddy would have been cold but.....A GOLD DAYTONA!

Now that's impressive.

'Nuff said.

Dr.B · 4 May 2010, 10:44 AM

Nope....don't flash your Rolex in court or a deposition......especially in a divorce case.

Dilemma · 4 May 2010, 10:45 AM

Quote:

I had to appear in court today (non criminal case - I was a witness) and I wore a custom tailored Brooks Brothers suit ($1200), tailored Brooks Bros French Cuff shirt ($150), Johnston and Murphy wingtip shoes ($265), 18K cufflinks ($1500), 2 CT Diamond ring ($4,000), Two Tone Rolex Submariner Watch ($9,300) - and drove up in my nice Cadillac Deville. (+$).

Baller.

CoopJr · 4 May 2010, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Rscmaine

I had to appear in court today (non criminal case - I was a witness) and I wore a custom tailored Brooks Brothers suit ($1200), tailored Brooks Bros French Cuff shirt ($150), Johnston and Murphy wingtip shoes ($265), 18K cufflinks ($1500), 2 CT Diamond ring ($4,000), Two Tone Rolex Submariner Watch ($9,300) - and drove up in my nice Cadillac Deville. (+$).

Saxon007 · 4 May 2010, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by uracowman

did you make sure to bring your crystal tipped cane and a purple top hat?

Dilemma · 4 May 2010, 10:51 AM

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do you think the Sub had any positive effect?

I think the fact you feel the need to itemize your wardrobe w/prices is a bit pretentious to be perfectly honest.

CoopJr · 4 May 2010, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Rscmaine

and drove up in my nice Cadillac Deville. (+$).

Like this one?

4 May 2010, 08:34 AM	#1
Rscmaine "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Real Name: Nat Parkinson Location: Maine, USA Watch: me pull a rabbit.. Posts: 1,196	Does a Rolex help in court? I had to appear in court today (non criminal case - I was a witness) and I wore a custom tailored Brooks Brothers suit ($1200), tailored Brooks Bros French Cuff shirt ($150), Johnston and Murphy wingtip shoes ($265), 18K cufflinks ($1500), 2 CT Diamond ring ($4,000), Two Tone Rolex Submariner Watch ($9,300) - and drove up in my nice Cadillac Deville. (+$). We won. Part of the 'testimony' was me running videos on a laptop on the judges bench - with my 16613 8 inches in front of his nose while he watched the (very incriminating) 8 minute video on a computer. Beyond the fact that that our case was overwhelmingly in our favor....do you think the Sub had any positive effect? ???????? __________________ When the alien spaceships actually landed, to everyone's surprise, it turned out that the world's governments had not been hiding anything. They were just as clueless as the rest of us!

4 May 2010, 08:35 AM	#2
sakuraba "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2009 Real Name: Jib Location: SJ, California Watch: sun dial Posts: 8,189	You sure it wasn't the cufflinks,Nat? __________________ F 14000 AirKing black F 16710 GMT Pepsi F 16570 Explorer II white T 16600 SD D 16610 LV "fine quality is remembered long after the pain of spending money" -Steve Mulholland

4 May 2010, 08:49 AM	#7
smallcandle "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Real Name: Brian Location: Kansas Watch: 16610, Omega PO Posts: 1,898	I'm often told that we have a "somewhat" corrupt court system, so what do you reckon? BTW, I spent $16 on dinner last night. __________________ Things got out of control and I had to stab a clown...

4 May 2010, 08:51 AM	#8
moviefreak "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: in my house... Posts: 5,524	Ask O.J Simpson.. __________________ Cheers, Eduardo Be a WIS not a WUSS... and remove all the stickers..

4 May 2010, 08:51 AM	#10
viper "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Northeast Posts: 943	naahh, you'd be surprised how many people dont even notice that stuff __________________ 16610LV 16200 116600 116500

4 May 2010, 08:37 AM	#3
Idle Swede Suspended Join Date: Oct 2008 Real Name: Leo Location: Boca Raton Posts: 13,820	Did you give the judge your watch?

4 May 2010, 08:41 AM	#5
Atl Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Real Name: David Location: Sandy Springs, Ga Watch: GMT II, new Subbie Posts: 937	"It was the shoes, gotta be the shoes!" Spike Lee

4 May 2010, 08:43 AM	#6
Aeternitas "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: WI Watch: 16233, 15200 Posts: 66	In general. No. Of course, you have some leeway as a witness. But in general, no. Not as a lawyer (for either side, really). And never, EVER, as a defendant.

4 May 2010, 08:51 AM	#9
Thomas Banned Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: USA Posts: 625	My guess is that the only effect the Sub had was that you knew what time it was.

4 May 2010, 08:54 AM	#11
gt3pilot "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Real Name: Scott Location: Indiana Watch: this Posts: 537	I've won many cases wearing a Mens warehouse suit, Sketcher shoes, a cheap shirt with plastic buttons, no jewelry and just a SS Rolex. Drove my city owned Crown Vic to court. Not sure what the value of the things you were wearing and driving has to do the outcome of your case and why we would need to know, just wondering ? -Scott B. __________________

4 May 2010, 08:58 AM	#12
snowbird "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: USA Watch: Sea-Dweller 16600 Posts: 2,157	Nice watch but I really doubt it had any impact on the outcome of the case.

4 May 2010, 09:24 AM	#13
TimeToGo 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: North Florida Posts: 16,593	Sometimes the Jury does not like to see that. Plain Joe the defendant against the big Government or Corporation. Don't get me wrong, if they did the crime....So be it! Whoever prosecuted them spent the $$$ for the research or expertise, that is also a job. But if that is how you dress, there is no need to change.

4 May 2010, 09:52 AM	#15
Lol-x Facilitator Join Date: Nov 2005 Real Name: Steve Location: Omnipresent Posts: 33,244	I think if you pose with a show of wealth of jewellery it may go against you subconsciously in that your testimony, depending on the case, may be considered in a somewhat different light. Not sure if it good or bad. I'd try to win the case on its merits rather than what is on your wrist __________________ *Most folks are about as happy as they make up their minds to be.* ~Abraham Lincoln Nothing compares to the simple pleasure of a bike ride. ~John F. Kennedy ROLEXploitation - yeah I'm a victim

4 May 2010, 09:53 AM	#16
Melanotaenia "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Real Name: Jonathan Location: NYC Watch: Explorers and Subs Posts: 620	Nope. The same results would have been had with a 200 dollar suit. But why look bad if you can look good right?? That's my motto. If it weren't my motto we would all be wearing Casio watches and 20 year old sneakers LOL.

4 May 2010, 09:58 AM	#17
gmaines Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Riverside, CA Watch: Submariner&SDDS Posts: 306	It was the shirt and shoes....

4 May 2010, 10:11 AM	#19
Art 1 Banned Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Florida, Canada Watch: Rol/Seik/Tud/Omega Posts: 30,244	A buddy of mine is a lawyer who represents insurance companies in court. He never wears a nice watch or overly expensive suits when going before a jury.

4 May 2010, 10:23 AM	#21
Chipmunk "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Real Name: Alvin Location: So Cal Watch: ROLEXES Posts: 5,390	....do you think the Sub had any positive effect? [/QUOTE] I don't think so....unless the jury were all WISs. __________________ "A thing of beauty is a joy forever"............John Keats

4 May 2010, 10:35 AM	#22
CoopJr "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Real Name: Coop Location: U.S.A. Watch: Subs Posts: 6,455	I think you over paid for that sub!

4 May 2010, 10:44 AM	#25
Dr.B "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Real Name: Fernando Location: North Carolina Watch: SS White Daytona Posts: 1,944	Nope....don't flash your Rolex in court or a deposition......especially in a divorce case. __________________ The real voyage of discovery consists not in seeking new lands but seeing with new eyes. —Marcel Proust

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