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jake · 30 April 2008, 05:31 PM

Rolex created this watch to commemorate the 50th anniversary of the Submariner. How is it different than a standard sub? Rolex added the Rolex Green Bezel, Maxi Marker indices, and gave it a fatter minute hand.

A watch with many nicknames: The Kermit, LV, Green Sub. I noticed it looks a lot like the Starbucks Logo and since it seems to emit energy (think caffeine) from the metallic green bezel that the standard black submariner does not I call it the Starbucks Submariner.

Some people like the black sub better. They say it is classic. I like the Green Sub much, much, much better. I actually had a black sub and it drove me crazy every time I would look at photos of the LV because the LV looked so much more modern, aquatic, masculine and fun. I think the classic black sub has a very masculine body but the hands and indices on the dial look petite and anemic to me. This is just my opinion, but I believe the bigger indices and fatter hand is more consistent, masculine and organic looking. This of course is ironic because the older subs without the metal ring around the five minute marker indices actually have markers that are more in line size wise with the LV markers.

In many ways the LV sub represents a bridge from the old school to the new school sub which should be coming out next year at Basel. Rolex is very, very conservative with the Submariner because it has always been its bread and butter. It is perhaps the most iconic watch ever made. Most modern sports watches including all the Rolex sports watches are derivative in one way or another. James bond was one of the first to wear it and some of those old stainless subs have recently sold for close to $250k. Rolex is very picky and careful with the design of the sub, so when they introduced the LV 50th Anniversary sub they clearly thought it through very carefully.

Some people as you will see switch their bezel back and forth between the LV Green and Black. By the way, I think Rolex should create multiple colors in the future and let you decide which you like.

This thread is for any pictures related to the LV as well as any ideas or observations you wish to share. You can add side by side comparison photos, for instance showing a normal sub next to and LV, or a black LV.

I intend to do more "Definitive" Photo Collections for different watches in the future and the next will be on the Stainless GMTII-C. Why create a Definitive Rolex Series? To help people decide what the watch will look like if they purchase it as well as a reference. In my mind the thing that sets the Definitive Series apart is that it is like a photographic PHD that is fun. It poses a great question and offers great answers and insight into the defined topic.

I hope you enjoy.

Additional "Definitive Series" Photo Galleries on the RolexForum.com include:

• Definitive Famous People Wearing Rolex Photo Collection: http://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=38435

• Definitive Women Wearing Men's 40MM Rolex Watches (Not Office Safe): http://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=38864

• Definitive Origin of the term Rolex "President" and its History: (This is a work in progress. I will be adding much more as time permits): http://www.rolexforums.com/showthrea...ight=president

• Definitive Best Customized Rolex: http://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=38770

• Definitive John Mayer Rolex Collection: http://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=38421

• Definitive Paul Newman Daytona: http://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=37864

• Definitive Dream Daytona Pics: http://www.rolexforums.com/showthrea...d=1#post548334

• Definitive Red Submariner or White for 2009 Update???: http://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=38925

• Definitive Rolex Product Placement Photos & Discussion: http://www.rolexforums.com/showthrea...ight=president

jake · 30 April 2008, 05:44 PM

Notice any similarities???

jake · 30 April 2008, 06:08 PM

Some call it the Kermit...

jake · 30 April 2008, 06:08 PM

I have the funiest story to share with you about changing the bezel from green to black:

I started another thread named: Black Bezel LV 50th Anniversary Submariner (Photos)

http://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=39019

In that thread a member named Julio César from Mexico shared this tale of separation anxiety. Julio wrote:

"I had the black bezel insert in my LV for only two hours before I started crying for the green bezel back!!!

I don´t know why but the two hours with the black bezel were two hours of sadness?

I went to eat lunch with my wife and I did not enjoy the food.

I finished lunch and I ran back to the watchmaker to put back the green bezel.

There is your answer. Green bezel rocks!!!!!!"

Jocke added this superb link to how he retrofitted an older sub with LV components :

http://www.watchwallpapers.com/snd.htm

etp095 · 30 April 2008, 06:10 PM

thanks for the pics.i like to call it the kermit.

JJ Irani · 30 April 2008, 06:11 PM

Fantastic pics, Jake.....many thanks for sharing!! They are a real treat!!

jake · 30 April 2008, 06:59 PM

Hi Rudolph!!!

Another funny story for you! When I first joined the forum, I thought like other forum members that your Avatar was actually you. I remember thinking, "This guy looks classic, cocky and Cuban." It was not for a few weeks that I realized it was a photo of Che Guevara.

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Originally Posted by etp095

thanks for the pics.i like to call it the kermit.

jake · 30 April 2008, 07:01 PM

Hi JJ!!!!! My Fellow Rolex Fanatic!!!!

It is my pleasure!!!! I have many more Fantastic pics coming soon!!!!

Warmest,
Jake

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Originally Posted by JJ Irani

Fantastic pics, Jake.....many thanks for sharing!! They are a real treat!!

jake · 30 April 2008, 07:22 PM

A customized Rough Hewn Black LV Submariner next to a Standard Green LV sub.

jake · 30 April 2008, 07:39 PM

What does the Green LV Sub look like on a Nato??

Trini · 30 April 2008, 07:53 PM

Hey another great post and set of photos.

Green bezel is absolutely hideous and has no classical elements in my opinion.

Also the maxi dial is far too BUSY ... when you look at other watches with clean faces you'll notice how important the thinner hands are.

But hey thats just my opinion. GREAT SHOTS and good post.

Andad · 30 April 2008, 07:55 PM

Hi Jake,

There are 10 posts in this thread and 8 of them are yours.

You should pass JJ soon.

I forgot to add:-

Some nice pix of the LV.

jake · 30 April 2008, 07:56 PM

This is the photo that COMPLETELY Sold me on the LV Sub. I could not stop staring at it...

WARNING: Do not spend too much time looking at this picture...Doing so will make you do strange things...

jake · 30 April 2008, 08:11 PM

It is rummored that Rolex has figured out how to do a Green Ceramic Bezel...So what would will the next generation stainless Rolex Submariner look like when it is introduced at Basel 2009?

I created this image to illustrate what I think they might look like...

jake · 30 April 2008, 08:16 PM

By the way... I also created this image of the way I think the upcoming Red sub should look...

In a Poll more than 82% of the forum members agreed:

http://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=38925

Jimbits76 · 30 April 2008, 08:24 PM

Jake my friend.

In the past we may have disagreed about a great many things however one fact remains...it's undeniable...undisputable....

YOU HAVE GREAT TASTE IN WATCHES!!!!!!!!!

J

jake · 30 April 2008, 08:26 PM

This is one of my Favorite Shots of the LV. Everything is real in this shot BTW...

jake · 30 April 2008, 08:31 PM

Hi Jim!!!

Thank you for sharing your kind words with me and I am inclined to agree with you. Jade is green isn't it!?!?

I was thinking about you because I forgot to mention something last time we spoke/jousted:

My dad was good pals with the original Joker, Cesar Romero. He was actually Cesar's agent in Hollywood at the William Morris agency in the late 1950s & 1960s.

Warmest,
Jake

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jimbits76

Jake my friend.

In the past we may have disagreed about a great many things however one fact remains...it's undeniable...undisputable....

YOU HAVE GREAT TASTE IN WATCHES!!!!!!!!!

J

dkpw · 30 April 2008, 08:39 PM

Great pics - but like Trini, I much prefer the black bezel and non-Maxi dial. The only one here I would consider buying is your red sub design, unfortunately it's not real.

Thanks for all your efforts though.

Jimbits76 · 30 April 2008, 08:41 PM

Cool Jake....IMHO nobody can beat Cesar as the clown prince (I always loved the fact that he kept his 'tache under the greasepaint.

If the Joker wore a Rolex it would have to be the LV or GMT...what else would match those outfits!!!!

In fact, in his and your father's honour I think I'll have a quick change of costume.

J

jake · 30 April 2008, 08:42 PM

Another Favorite Shot....

Jimbits76 · 30 April 2008, 08:44 PM

I always loved the LV shot with the cherries but can never find the bloody thing!!!!!!!

Any help? Anybody?

J

Attila · 30 April 2008, 08:48 PM

It is the maxi dial on the LV that sells me

SabaDen · 30 April 2008, 08:54 PM

Wooooo!!! My fav 7Up ... to complete the R soft drink collections. Thanks Jake for the nice pics

makes my eyes @@ staring at them ...

jake · 30 April 2008, 09:04 PM

Real Close...Look at that Crown (Winding) Detail !!!!!!!!!!!!

jake · 30 April 2008, 09:05 PM

Hi Dennis!!!

Great new Nickname for the LV: The 7UP Sub...Love it!!!!!!!!!!!!

Jake

Quote:

Originally Posted by SabaDen

Wooooo!!! My fav 7Up ... to complete the R soft drink collections. Thanks Jake for the nice pics

makes my eyes @@ staring at them ...

SabaDen · 30 April 2008, 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jake

Hi Dennis!!!

Great new Nickname for the LV: The 7UP Sub...Love it!!!!!!!!!!!!

Jake

Haha!!! Now we have Pepsi, Coke, RootBeer and 7Up

The nick came to my mind when I 1st laid eyes on it ...

jake · 30 April 2008, 09:13 PM

Another Macro Shot...

jake · 30 April 2008, 09:14 PM

Time to Play "Why Not ??????????????"

jake · 30 April 2008, 09:16 PM

Hi Dennis!!!

Most Brilliant comment and moment in the history of the RolexFourums.com.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Seriously Brilliant!!!!!!!! I love it: "Now we have Pepsi, Coke, RootBeer, and 7up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

:thum bsup:

: clap:

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Originally Posted by SabaDen

Haha!!! Now we have Pepsi, Coke, RootBeer and 7Up

The nick came to my mind when I 1st laid eyes on it ...

30 April 2008, 06:10 PM	#5
etp095 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Real Name: rudolph Location: chicago burbs Posts: 2,026	thanks for the pics.i like to call it the kermit. __________________ tt date circa 69' 5513 circa 81' ss sub w/date (z) pepsi gmt for dad(D) polar expy II(z) 1675 gmt circa 68' ladies datejust on jubilee for mom (z) sea dweller16600(M) SS Sub-C(g) Omega Planet Ocean,45.5 on mesh(2500D)

30 April 2008, 06:11 PM	#6
JJ Irani Fondly Remembered Join Date: May 2005 Real Name: JJ Location: Auckland, NZ Watch: ALL SOLD!! Posts: 74,320	Fantastic pics, Jake.....many thanks for sharing!! They are a real treat!! __________________ Words fail me in expressing my utmost thanks to ALL of you for this wonderful support during my hour of need!! I firmly believe that my time on planet earth is NOT yet up!! I shall fight this to the very end.......and WIN!!

30 April 2008, 07:53 PM	#11
Trini Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Caribbean Posts: 117	Green bezel is HIDEOUS ... Hey another great post and set of photos. Green bezel is absolutely hideous and has no classical elements in my opinion. Also the maxi dial is far too BUSY ... when you look at other watches with clean faces you'll notice how important the thinner hands are. But hey thats just my opinion. GREAT SHOTS and good post.

30 April 2008, 07:55 PM	#12
Andad 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Real Name: Eddie Location: Australia Watch: A few. Posts: 36,807	Hi Jake, There are 10 posts in this thread and 8 of them are yours. You should pass JJ soon. I forgot to add:- Some nice pix of the LV. __________________ E

30 April 2008, 08:39 PM	#19
dkpw "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: David Location: Scotland Watch: 16610 & 214270 Posts: 1,294	Great pics - but like Trini, I much prefer the black bezel and non-Maxi dial. The only one here I would consider buying is your red sub design, unfortunately it's not real. Thanks for all your efforts though. __________________ Sub 16610, Explorer 214270, Ω Speedy Pro & many others. David

30 April 2008, 08:24 PM	#16
Jimbits76 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: UK Posts: 9,407	Jake my friend. In the past we may have disagreed about a great many things however one fact remains...it's undeniable...undisputable.... YOU HAVE GREAT TASTE IN WATCHES!!!!!!!!! J

30 April 2008, 08:41 PM	#20
Jimbits76 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: UK Posts: 9,407	Cool Jake....IMHO nobody can beat Cesar as the clown prince (I always loved the fact that he kept his 'tache under the greasepaint. If the Joker wore a Rolex it would have to be the LV or GMT...what else would match those outfits!!!! In fact, in his and your father's honour I think I'll have a quick change of costume. J

30 April 2008, 08:44 PM	#22
Jimbits76 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: UK Posts: 9,407	I always loved the LV shot with the cherries but can never find the bloody thing!!!!!!! Any help? Anybody? J

30 April 2008, 08:48 PM	#23
Attila Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Real Name: Attila Location: VIC AUS Watch: GMT/Explorer/Sptfr Posts: 320	It is the maxi dial on the LV that sells me

30 April 2008, 08:54 PM	#24
SabaDen Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: Dennis Location: Far East Watch: Daytona ... PAM190 Posts: 192	Wooooo!!! My fav 7Up ... to complete the R soft drink collections. Thanks Jake for the nice pics makes my eyes @@ staring at them ...

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