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entropydave · 11 October 2009, 08:23 AM

Just been looking at my Rolex catalog and spcifically at the TT models - they descrive the gold as "Rolesor" not 18k glod...
So what is it?!!

thanks!
dave

sleddog · 11 October 2009, 08:31 AM

I'm not 100% sure but I believe its a metal combination that Rolex has patented....A mixture of gold and stainless I think.....Others will correct me if I'm wrong!!!
Rob.

The GMT Master · 11 October 2009, 08:56 AM

The name Rolesor is given purely due to assay office rules when it comes to hallmarking. As it's not just one metal within the bracelet, legally they're not allowed to describe it as 18Ct gold - if you look closely, they'll refer to the gold as yellow metal. So, when you see the term Rolesor, all it means is that it's steel and 18ct

ingoodtime · 11 October 2009, 09:04 AM

I went to the Rolex website to see if I could find the exact answer for you but the site froze and crashed my internet explorer on my windows 64 bit vista system with 8 GB of RAM. Go Figure! The Rolex site is not the best. So I went back to the site and they call their TT watches Steel and Yellow Gold. If you browse a particular TT watch and then go to materials, you will see that the SS portion is the 904L blend usually reserved for use in the chemical industry where maimum resistance to corrosion is essential. They have a video you can watch. They have a link for the gold portion of the watch but no video there. It just says they operate their own exclusive foundry and that they can create their own unique alloys/colors and are conscious of purity. To me, Rolesor just means SS and Gold.

moviefreak · 11 October 2009, 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by ingoodtime

I went to the Rolex website to see if I could find the exact answer for you but the site froze and crashed my internet explorer on my windows 64 bit vista system with 8 GB of RAM. Go Figure! The Rolex site is not the best. So I went back to the site and they call their TT watches Steel and Yellow Gold. If you browse a particular TT watch and then go to materials, you will see that the SS portion is the 904L blend usually reserved for use in the chemical industry where maimum resistance to corrosion is essential. They have a video you can watch. They have a link for the gold portion of the watch but no video there. It just says they operate their own exclusive foundry and that they can create their own unique alloys/colors and are conscious of purity. To me, Rolesor just means SS and Gold.

Rolex should invest in a more user friendly website... ahh. Rolesor = TT

watchfreak2003 · 11 October 2009, 10:06 AM

Just like Superlative Chronometer, Oyster, Jubilee, trip lock etc. Rolex terms/hallmarks.
Rolesor = Two tone, gold/steel.

RolexPete32 · 11 October 2009, 10:07 AM

My understanding is it simply is the Rolex term for a combo of steel and gold.

deserted · 11 October 2009, 10:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ingoodtime

I went to the Rolex website to see if I could find the exact answer for you but the site froze and crashed my internet explorer on my windows 64 bit vista system with 8 GB of RAM. Go Figure! The Rolex site is not the best. So I went back to the site and they call their TT watches Steel and Yellow Gold. If you browse a particular TT watch and then go to materials, you will see that the SS portion is the 904L blend usually reserved for use in the chemical industry where maimum resistance to corrosion is essential. They have a video you can watch. They have a link for the gold portion of the watch but no video there. It just says they operate their own exclusive foundry and that they can create their own unique alloys/colors and are conscious of purity. To me, Rolesor just means SS and Gold.

X2

Speed · 11 October 2009, 10:34 AM

Rolesor...

Is that akin to "Pleather" or Corian?

entropydave · 11 October 2009, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Blendhpi

My understanding is it simply is the Rolex term for a combo of steel and gold.

hmmm. I dunno. Why does their catalog describe it as "yellow metal"? I also don't really see why there is an assay prob just because they use it with steel?
"!8k gold and steel" sounds fine to me and I am sure it can be hallmarked easily as per the law.
Anyone got a spare one they want to hacksaw in half?!!

I suspect it may be a thick plating or a coating on a form.
I do not think Rolex would miss an opportunity to brag about it and call it 18k gold and not yellow metal - which sounds far less attractive IMO.

Gerardus · 11 October 2009, 06:58 PM

I always thought it is the combination of (precious) metals.

dannyp · 11 October 2009, 07:04 PM

Didn't they also refer to the SS/Plat Yachtmaster as "Rolseum"? As in stainless and platinum. I agree that it's all about marketing rather than a revolutionary material. The same way other words in the Rolex vocabulary (including the word "Rolex" itself) were invented to establish a superior brand identity.

Andad · 11 October 2009, 07:53 PM

Did you google it Danny?

The GMT Master · 11 October 2009, 09:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dannyp

Didn't they also refer to the SS/Plat Yachtmaster as "Rolseum"? As in stainless and platinum. I agree that it's all about marketing rather than a revolutionary material. The same way other words in the Rolex vocabulary (including the word "Rolex" itself) were invented to establish a superior brand identity.

Yep, Rolesium refers to steel and platinum, and Tridor refers to a combination of yellow, white and rose gold - can't think of any other terms regarding metals that Rolex uses.

Rolesor · 11 October 2009, 10:29 PM

It's me of course!!...lol ok that was lame but everyone already hit the nail on the head.

I originally thought it only referred to the Rose gold TT Models but found out soon after it was anything with SS and a precious metal in the band.

snow_rocks · 11 October 2009, 11:17 PM

From Hubpages;

"For those who don't know, Rolesor is Rolex's term for the combination of stainless steel with the yellow, white or pink 18-carat gold, a look that jazzes up either all-steel or all-gold models. It derives from the terms Rolex (naturally), and Or, the French word for gold."

jameshe · 12 October 2009, 12:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by watchfreak2003

Just like Superlative Chronometer, Oyster, Jubilee, trip lock etc. Rolex terms/hallmarks.
Rolesor = Two tone, gold/steel.

Correct, this is my understanding

JJ Irani · 12 October 2009, 02:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by watchfreak2003

Just like Superlative Chronometer, Oyster, Jubilee, trip lock etc. Rolex terms/hallmarks.
Rolesor = Two tone, gold/steel.

Correct.....and "Rolesium" is also a Rolex trademark for Steel and Platinum.

JJ

entropydave · 17 October 2009, 02:43 AM

I had a further think about "Rolesor" and I suspect that it is not solid gold but a thick (more than 0.5mm?) layer of gold (or Pt in the case of "rolesium") fused onto a 904L base. This would explain their reticence to call it 18k gold and to call it "yellow metal" instead. I guess they thought that Rolesor sounded better than "very thick gold plating".
Also, the gold may not have been electrodeposited either but welded on. I am not sure if one can even plate in anything other than 24k gold due to the different electrodepositional properties of the metals required to plate at 18k.

Just thought about this again as I was looking at a TT specimen today...

thanks!

padi56 · 17 October 2009, 03:04 AM

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Originally Posted by entropydave

hmmm. I dunno. Why does their catalog describe it as "yellow metal"? I also don't really see why there is an assay prob just because they use it with steel?
"!8k gold and steel" sounds fine to me and I am sure it can be hallmarked easily as per the law.
Anyone got a spare one they want to hacksaw in half?!!

I suspect it may be a thick plating or a coating on a form.
I do not think Rolex would miss an opportunity to brag about it and call it 18k gold and not yellow metal - which sounds far less attractive IMO.

Its quite simple in many countries UK for one to call anything gold or platinum it must be all gold or all platinum etc 9ct 18ct gold 900 or 950 for platinum.And it must have a assay stamp to state gold content etc 375, 515, 750,or 950.So Rolex uses the made up word Rolesor for watches of mixed metals gold S.Steel,and Rolesium for mixed metals S.steel and platinum another made up word.

Thrasher · 17 October 2009, 03:49 AM

Sounds like Corinthian Leather- the ultra chic material found on the seats of Dodge Cordobas. My car, back in the day, had real Corinthian Velor.

RBR76 · 22 October 2013, 03:16 AM

Might consider getting a pre-own 2 tone Sub.

When did the 2 tone clasp started for the Submariner?

I saw an "E" and "L" series 2 tone Sub with full stainless steel clasp, no gold at all. This seem to have affected the value quite a lot. The prices for this two pieces are almost on par with a "V" series 16610.

11 October 2009, 08:23 AM	#1
entropydave "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Real Name: Dave Location: Huntington, IN Posts: 680	What is Rolesor exactly? Just been looking at my Rolex catalog and spcifically at the TT models - they descrive the gold as "Rolesor" not 18k glod... So what is it?!! thanks! dave

11 October 2009, 08:31 AM	#2
sleddog TRF Moderator & 2024 DATE-JUST41 Patron Join Date: Jul 2007 Real Name: Rob Location: Nearby. Posts: 24,903	I'm not 100% sure but I believe its a metal combination that Rolex has patented....A mixture of gold and stainless I think.....Others will correct me if I'm wrong!!! Rob. __________________ He who wears a Rolex is always on time, even when late!! TRF's "After Dark" Bar & Nightclub Patron-Founding Member..

11 October 2009, 06:58 PM	#11
Gerardus "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Real Name: Gerardus Location: EU Watch: ♕ Posts: 11,868	I always thought it is the combination of (precious) metals. __________________ ♕16570 ♕126610 ♕126333

11 October 2009, 07:53 PM	#13
Andad 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Real Name: Eddie Location: Australia Watch: A few. Posts: 36,797	Did you google it Danny? __________________ E

11 October 2009, 08:56 AM	#3
The GMT Master "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Real Name: Chris Location: England Posts: 8,148	The name Rolesor is given purely due to assay office rules when it comes to hallmarking. As it's not just one metal within the bracelet, legally they're not allowed to describe it as 18Ct gold - if you look closely, they'll refer to the gold as yellow metal. So, when you see the term Rolesor, all it means is that it's steel and 18ct

11 October 2009, 09:04 AM	#4
ingoodtime "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Real Name: Lee Location: USA Posts: 2,834	I went to the Rolex website to see if I could find the exact answer for you but the site froze and crashed my internet explorer on my windows 64 bit vista system with 8 GB of RAM. Go Figure! The Rolex site is not the best. So I went back to the site and they call their TT watches Steel and Yellow Gold. If you browse a particular TT watch and then go to materials, you will see that the SS portion is the 904L blend usually reserved for use in the chemical industry where maimum resistance to corrosion is essential. They have a video you can watch. They have a link for the gold portion of the watch but no video there. It just says they operate their own exclusive foundry and that they can create their own unique alloys/colors and are conscious of purity. To me, Rolesor just means SS and Gold.

11 October 2009, 10:06 AM	#6
watchfreak2003 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Real Name: Jesper Geisler Location: Cph. Denmark Posts: 362	Just like Superlative Chronometer, Oyster, Jubilee, trip lock etc. Rolex terms/hallmarks. Rolesor = Two tone, gold/steel.

11 October 2009, 10:07 AM	#7
RolexPete32 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Real Name: Peter Location: Canada Watch: You know... Rolex Posts: 1,520	My understanding is it simply is the Rolex term for a combo of steel and gold.

11 October 2009, 10:34 AM	#9
Speed "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: USA Posts: 19,695	Rolesor... Is that akin to "Pleather" or Corian?

11 October 2009, 07:04 PM	#12
dannyp Banned Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: usa Posts: 6,765	Didn't they also refer to the SS/Plat Yachtmaster as "Rolseum"? As in stainless and platinum. I agree that it's all about marketing rather than a revolutionary material. The same way other words in the Rolex vocabulary (including the word "Rolex" itself) were invented to establish a superior brand identity.

11 October 2009, 10:29 PM	#15
Rolesor "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2009 Real Name: Brandon Location: Toronto, ON Watch: 116234 Posts: 4,141	It's me of course!!...lol ok that was lame but everyone already hit the nail on the head. I originally thought it only referred to the Rose gold TT Models but found out soon after it was anything with SS and a precious metal in the band.

11 October 2009, 11:17 PM	#16
snow_rocks Banned Join Date: Feb 2009 Real Name: Rick Location: At what TIME?!!! Watch: the SKY tonite! Posts: 3,225	From Hubpages; "For those who don't know, Rolesor is Rolex's term for the combination of stainless steel with the yellow, white or pink 18-carat gold, a look that jazzes up either all-steel or all-gold models. It derives from the terms Rolex (naturally), and Or, the French word for gold."

17 October 2009, 02:43 AM	#19
entropydave "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Real Name: Dave Location: Huntington, IN Posts: 680	I had a further think about "Rolesor" and I suspect that it is not solid gold but a thick (more than 0.5mm?) layer of gold (or Pt in the case of "rolesium") fused onto a 904L base. This would explain their reticence to call it 18k gold and to call it "yellow metal" instead. I guess they thought that Rolesor sounded better than "very thick gold plating". Also, the gold may not have been electrodeposited either but welded on. I am not sure if one can even plate in anything other than 24k gold due to the different electrodepositional properties of the metals required to plate at 18k. Just thought about this again as I was looking at a TT specimen today... thanks!

17 October 2009, 03:49 AM	#21
Thrasher Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Real Name: Rich Location: New York Watch: 16710 Coke Posts: 275	Sounds like Corinthian Leather- the ultra chic material found on the seats of Dodge Cordobas. My car, back in the day, had real Corinthian Velor.

22 October 2013, 03:16 AM	#22
RBR76 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Watch City Watch: Submariner 16610 Posts: 170	Might consider getting a pre-own 2 tone Sub. When did the 2 tone clasp started for the Submariner? I saw an "E" and "L" series 2 tone Sub with full stainless steel clasp, no gold at all. This seem to have affected the value quite a lot. The prices for this two pieces are almost on par with a "V" series 16610.

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