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BB83
22 December 2010, 11:48 AM
I see some vintage Daytonas, esp ref 6263, advertised as having a "Panda" dial. What does this mean? Is it only on white dials?

I gather Panda dials are more desirable than non- how much of a premium should that add to the purchase price?

glocati
22 December 2010, 05:10 PM
I see some vintage Daytonas, esp ref 6263, advertised as having a "Panda" dial. What does this mean? Is it only on white dials?

I gather Panda dials are more desirable than non- how much of a premium should that add to the purchase price?

Panda Dial is a black dial with white sub dials or vice a versa. They do seem to bring a premium.

eparisini
22 December 2010, 06:27 PM
Panda is silver dial with black subdials...

HL65
22 December 2010, 09:02 PM
Panda is all of the above as it is not an official Rolex name but one given by watch collectors.

Welshwatchman
22 December 2010, 09:24 PM
Panda Dial is a black dial with white sub dials or vice a versa. They do seem to bring a premium.

Panda is silver dial with black subdials...

Panda is all of the above as it is not an official Rolex name but one given by watch collectors.

We've got every base covered there.:chuckle:

The "Panda" dial is specifically a silver white dial with black subs.

... as in Panda ...

http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcT9U0b-A1ilI9QzNetxQk_UYuTaQrP7kaimdN_rhqDYK0D13taNNA

HL65
22 December 2010, 09:27 PM
I actually hear people call the silver dial combo a Red Panda. Again--Panda is black and white--even I can discern that!! Nothing but nicknames anyways from all of us in Rolex Land!!

eparisini
23 December 2010, 12:32 AM
We've got every base covered there.:chuckle:

The "Panda" dial is specifically a silver white dial with black subs.

... as in Panda ...

http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcT9U0b-A1ilI9QzNetxQk_UYuTaQrP7kaimdN_rhqDYK0D13taNNA

I'M RIGHT :cheers::lol::lol::lol:

jedly1
23 December 2010, 06:18 AM
hes right ..panda is silver dial with black subdials...bizarely

BB83
23 December 2010, 07:18 AM
I almost understand, and thanks for the helpful replies...for final clarification:

--the Panda bear (cute pic) would imply it's plain white dial with black subdials

hes right ..panda is silver dial with black subdials...bizarely

--this says silver dial with black subdials

We've got every base covered there.:chuckle:

The "Panda" dial is specifically a silver white dial with black subs.

--and this says silver white dial with black subdials (not sure I know what a "silver white" dial is??)

Don't want to get too technical here, as I realize this is just lingo people have made up, but if there is a consensus as to whether "Panda" is appropriate for all three of these dials, or just one of them, might as well have that information...

And pics would definitely be welcome (it's always fun to stare at vintage Daytonas!)

HL65
23 December 2010, 08:16 AM
All 3 combos have been referred to as Panda dials over the years. I have even as stated heard "Red Panda" on silver/black combo. At the end of the day-Rolex calls them Daytonas. Just as today many a dial is now called Paul Newman dials--again not by Rolex but by us in Rolex Land. Why? Because he wore one in a movie called "Winning"--movie posters were shown of him wearing it in Italy and supposedly on a magazine cover. So--now we have so called Newman dials. And don't forget Big Red's etc. etc. So-at the end of the day you can call it what you want--but it is simply a Daytona with a nice dial. Here are a few pics of my 2 vintage Daytonas. The first is a 6263-aka "Big Red" and the second a 6262 with brown subdials-aka "Chocolate". I have it on a strap now--changing it back to bracelet tomorrow--although I kind of like the strap! Best of luck in your search.:cheers:
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Welshwatchman
23 December 2010, 08:17 AM
The dials are silver but come across as looking white (or a "champagne" off white) in many pictures, hence my silver white description.

Hopefully this is not confusing.

Here are a few examples of the same dial (source - interwebular)

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HL65
23 December 2010, 08:20 AM
Nice examples Paul!!!! Love the Panda--or Big Red or as I know it--Sweet Daytona!! Cheers!

Welshwatchman
23 December 2010, 08:20 AM
.. as far as the "premium" question is concerned there are other factors which determine the price, be it the black dial or silver dial.

Condition, originality, accompanying paperwork/service history/boxset/purchase invoice, that sort of thing. Not to mention the rarer models and variations of the Valj. movement Daytonas.

There could be a black dial for sale $5-10,000 more expensive than a "panda" dialled 6263.

Yazo
23 December 2010, 08:50 AM
All 3 combos have been referred to as Panda dials over the years. I have even as stated heard "Red Panda" on silver/black combo. At the end of the day-Rolex calls them Daytonas. Just as today many a dial is now called Paul Newman dials--again not by Rolex but by us in Rolex Land. Why? Because he wore one in a movie called "Winning"--movie posters were shown of him wearing it in Italy and supposedly on a magazine cover. So--now we have so called Newman dials. And don't forget Big Red's etc. etc. So-at the end of the day you can call it what you want--but it is simply a Daytona with a nice dial. Here are a few pics of my 2 vintage Daytonas. The first is a 6263-aka "Big Red" and the second a 6262 with brown subdials-aka "Chocolate". I have it on a strap now--changing it back to bracelet tomorrow--although I kind of like the strap! Best of luck in your search.:cheers:
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Beautiful examples!!! LOVE that Tropical 6262!!!

I love my "Panda"!!!

http://i55.tinypic.com/34ypuoh.jpg

HL65
23 December 2010, 08:59 AM
Beaufitul my friend!!!! Love that Panda too!!!! Tropical going on bracelet tomorrow!!! Kind of like the leather strap--but it is coming off!!

Yazo
23 December 2010, 09:01 AM
Beaufitul my friend!!!! Love that Panda too!!!! Tropical going on bracelet tomorrow!!! Kind of like the leather strap--but it is coming off!!
Can't wait to see the pix buddy!! You gotta take a pic w/ your 6263 and 6262 on bracelets for me if you can!!!

HL65
23 December 2010, 09:45 AM
Will do my friend!!!

BB83
23 December 2010, 10:46 AM
All 3 combos have been referred to as Panda dials over the years. I have even as stated heard "Red Panda" on silver/black combo. At the end of the day-Rolex calls them Daytonas. Just as today many a dial is now called Paul Newman dials--again not by Rolex but by us in Rolex Land. Why? Because he wore one in a movie called "Winning"--movie posters were shown of him wearing it in Italy and supposedly on a magazine cover. So--now we have so called Newman dials. And don't forget Big Red's etc. etc. So-at the end of the day you can call it what you want--but it is simply a Daytona with a nice dial. Here are a few pics of my 2 vintage Daytonas. The first is a 6263-aka "Big Red" and the second a 6262 with brown subdials-aka "Chocolate". I have it on a strap now--changing it back to bracelet tomorrow--although I kind of like the strap! Best of luck in your search.:cheers:
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180197

Thanks. Yours are real beauties. As is Yazo's...

HL65
23 December 2010, 11:07 AM
Thanks!!!

Cicindela
23 December 2010, 12:41 PM
Of course not all Panda dials are Rolex dials as well. There are more then 4 Omega dials that are known as Pandas. The Apollo 11 35th anniversary is just one.

http://www.tc.umn.edu/~decke003/Pictures/Horn1.jpg

conrail
24 December 2010, 02:00 AM
Oofda, that Omega is sexy!!

eparisini
24 December 2010, 02:20 AM
My next catch???

HL65
24 December 2010, 02:55 AM
Tropical 6262 back on it's bracelet::thumbsup:
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Dan Pierce
24 December 2010, 03:00 AM
Of course not all Panda dials are Rolex dials as well. There are more then 4 Omega dials that are known as Pandas. The Apollo 11 35th anniversary is just one.

http://www.tc.umn.edu/~decke003/Pictures/Horn1.jpg

Very true, Steve.:thumbsup:
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http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p234/ASATMAN/frontalshot.jpg

Chris B
24 December 2010, 03:10 AM
Great pics

Cicindela
24 December 2010, 04:47 AM
Very true, Steve.:thumbsup:
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http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p234/ASATMAN/frontalshot.jpg

I love that Tudor Panda, and very resonable too. :thumbsup: