Advice needed 1680 red sub

[Malverne]

Hi Friends,
Please can someone tell me more about this 1680 red sub? I could bought this one, but I'm not sure about the red print. It looks like a mark V dial, but not sure! Hope for some help here.

Thanks, malverne

http://i1183.photobucket.com/albums/x475/malverne/3B26026B-E469-497F-9231-ACDC9FB87E1C.jpg (http://s1183.photobucket.com/user/malverne/media/3B26026B-E469-497F-9231-ACDC9FB87E1C.jpg.html)

[azguy]

Mark V, excellent example, delightful patine :drul: lugs appear good, crown guards look stubby, but it wouldn't deter me unless the price was ludicrous

[Malverne]

Thanx. Yes the case is in good condition, and I love the dark markers as well.
If Imcompare the color of the red writing, I thought other mark v writings have a more darker red color. What do you think about the color? For me, it looks like red over white...

[azguy]

I think/believe earlier dials look more red over white, this doesn't to me, but whatta I know, it's only one picture.

[Loevhagen]

TWhat do you think about the color? For me, it looks like red over white...

I can't se any thing indicating red over white.

[Loevhagen]

From http://www.doubleredseadweller.com/watch-info/red-sub/untitled.html

Mk I - VI

http://www.doubleredseadweller.com/_Media/image006_med_hr.jpeg

[jdmi32]

Looks like a very nice MK V. I don't know if it's on the crystal or dial but there might be a scratch of some sort directly over the 6 o'clock marker.

On a MK V dial, "SUBMARINER" should be printed in red only, not red over white. Here is mine for comparison.

[nick c]

Very nice!

[scooba]

Lovely :thumbsup:

[ADINVA]

The patina is amazing. Matches so evenly - dial/hands/pearl

[Malverne]

Thanks for your help all! I hope I can show it on my wrist soon :cheers:

[Malverne]

hi guys, here the red sub, finally bought it. love the patina of the dial.
please can someone tell me more about the caseback. I thought there must be a stamped date/quarter?

http://i1183.photobucket.com/albums/x475/malverne/IMG-20160220-WA0002.jpg (http://s1183.photobucket.com/user/malverne/media/IMG-20160220-WA0002.jpg.html)

http://i1183.photobucket.com/albums/x475/malverne/IMG-20160220-WA0001.jpg (http://s1183.photobucket.com/user/malverne/media/IMG-20160220-WA0002.jpg.html)

http://i1183.photobucket.com/albums/x475/malverne/IMG-20160220-WA0004.jpg (http://s1183.photobucket.com/user/malverne/media/IMG-20160220-WA0004.jpg.html)

[JohnBaker3]

Rolex stopped marking the inside case backs sometime in late 1972....

If your watch is c 1973, then your case back is likely original to the watch.

Wear it in good health!

:cheers:

[brandrea]

Looks great, congratulations!:cheers:

[RC2]

Looks like Mark 4 to me

[GeorgeK]

No seal on caseback?

[RJC1]

Looks like Mark 4 to me

I don't believe it's a mark 4. One of the easiest ways to rule out the mark 4 is to look at the = sign placement over the C in chronometer. To me it looks like a mark 5

[jdmi32]

I don't believe it's a mark 4. One of the easiest ways to rule out the mark 4 is to look at the = sign placement over the C in chronometer. To me it looks like a mark 5

Easiest way for me to tell between a MK IV and V dial is the "R" in ROLEX. The slanted leg placement is much different.

[eton97]

Mark V = 'c' of word 'certified' is directly below 'h' in 'chronometer' and the bottom of the 'f' on 'ft' is directly above the 'v' on superlative.

Mark IV = 'c' of word 'certified' is directly below 'ch' in 'chronometer' and the bottom of the 'f' on 'ft' is directly above the 'i' on superlative.

I would say this is a mk v

[Malverne]

Thank u guys, its a watch from 71 with serial 2,82m... Yes, I think its mark 5

[ianmcg]

Mark V = 'c' of word 'certified' is directly below 'h' in 'chronometer' and the bottom of the 'f' on 'ft' is directly above the 'v' on superlative.

Mark IV = 'c' of word 'certified' is directly below 'ch' in 'chronometer' and the bottom of the 'f' on 'ft' is directly above the 'i' on superlative.

I would say this is a mk v

Simplest version I know:

Mk 4 = crossbar on f is offset from t. Mk5 and Mk 6 it isn't.
Mk 6 curly S.

Job done.

ian

[Boaters]

What a beauty

[springer]

Nice Mark V Sub...definitely not a Mark IV - wrong coronet for a Mark IV. 1972 case backs are found up to around 3.5 million serial numbers. Possibly a few might have later serial numbers.

From my experience, normally a 2.82 serial number is within range for a 1970 to early 1971 case back stamping.

[bbturbo]

My mk5, #2.7mil, has "III 71" stamped on the inside of the case back.

[ADINVA]

I have left my Red Sub in the safe deposit box for almost 5 months. Still hoping to see some patina developing. Envy those with very nicely developed patina. My Red Sub currently is in light ivory ..... still a long way to go to develop those patina?

[Michael M.]

At 2.8mil the caseback should have a late 70 or early 71 date stamp. The date stamp was not phased out until the mid 3.5mil range as Springer pointed out above. A correctly dated caseback shouldn't be too hard to find.

I have had several 3.3mil 1675's, 5513's, 1680's, and 5512's all of which had date stamps of 72.

[southtexas]

For what it's worth, I have a red 2.95 serial with IV.70 stamp.


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[southtexas]

I have left my Red Sub in the safe deposit box for almost 5 months. Still hoping to see some patina developing. Envy those with very nicely developed patina. My Red Sub currently is in light ivory ..... still a long way to go to develop those patina?


Maybe! Mine was in a safe for 40 years to get to a mustard color, which was gone after 6 months of daily wear once I purchase it. I posted "before and after" pics here somewhere.


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