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Tools 20 January 2008 11:18 AM

The Rolex Submariner (current model Pre-2010)
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Submariner Reference Numbers: Since ~1989; 14060, 14060M, 16610, 16610V, 16613, 16618

Date of production:
Modern Sapphire crystal Subs, from mid-1980's into 2010 production year.

14060 - 127 grams
16610 - 135 grams
16613 - 148 grams
16618 - 175 grams
As a comparison, the: 1680 - 117 grams

14060M - Calibre:3130, Jewels:31, Beats per hour:28,800
16610 - Calibre:3135, Jewels:31,
16610V - 3135
16613 - 3135

Power Reserve:

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14060M-COSC Z-series,
(Photo courtesy of Mike)

(Photo Courtesy of Mike)

16610 LV-F series-oval O
(Photo courtesy of Mike)

16610 LV-D series
(Photo courtesy of Mike)

V series 16610, LV and LN:
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Rolex 3135 Movement:
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Rolex Site - Submariner

The 3135 Movement

Andad 16 October 2008 05:53 PM

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New YG Blue ceramic sub.
Ad rang me to come and see it today.
New clasp adjustment lift slide and re-clip - very nice.
Colour was almost identical to the current TT blue sub. First pix seems to wash the colour out. Second pix shows the correct darker blue.

tudorwatches 16 October 2008 06:28 PM

Looking great !
A lot of people were nagging about the blue..
Love it !!

golfball123 16 October 2008 11:59 PM

great pics.. especially the yg sub..

JimC 26 October 2008 01:06 PM

Some excellent photos! Thanks, all!

Zman86 26 October 2008 01:57 PM

I wonder if I'll be able to update the clasp on mine with that one eventually

Alcan 26 October 2008 02:17 PM

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One of the great things about the 16613 Black TT Sub is that there's only one shade of black. They all look exactly the same regardless of the production year. And its as much at home in the boardroom as on the starting line of a yacht race.

adr 26 October 2008 03:17 PM

:thumbsup: bravo :thumbsup:
nice & appealing pictures :clap::clap:

Cato 30 October 2008 03:32 PM

Wow, what a classic!

rilu 30 October 2008 03:45 PM

awsome pics

tommypit 22 December 2008 01:39 PM


Originally Posted by Alcan (Post 818752)
One of the great things about the 16613 Black TT Sub is that there's only one shade of black. They all look exactly the same regardless of the production year. And its as much at home in the boardroom as on the starting line of a yacht race.

I bought the same watch a couple of weeks ago and I love it! The contrast of the black and gold is a real eye popper and feels great on the wrist. I dont go into board rooms or yachts. Im looking forward to wearing it on the first warm spring day with jeans and white t-shirt :cheers:

hflee55 14 January 2009 01:40 PM

Love the Subs....Awesome write-up.

sea-dweller 16 January 2009 11:28 PM

Great info !

Alfred24 7 February 2009 02:03 AM

Great Subs. Thanks for sharing.

anipit 5 March 2009 12:08 AM

Beautiful pictures, my 2009 model series M has rolexrolexrolexrolexserialnumberrolexrolex on the ... rehault (sorry if mistake) like the 14060M-COSC Z-series,(Photo courtesy of Mike)

Sorry, a M serial number means 2007/2008 i think.

jimmjames 11 March 2009 12:42 AM

the pics of the 14060M make me want one soooooo bad.

The Mantis 14 March 2009 11:29 PM

Can one still buy from an AD a 14060M NON-COSC?

jtvision 16 March 2009 08:32 PM

I've never been a fan of the NonCSOCs; far too vast looking.

Yoda 18 March 2009 08:41 AM

I have a TT sub with black dial and have had it for three years now. All my other Rolex's stay in there pretty boxes as I love this watch some much. I recently took it to St James square for a service and leaving it with the Rolex service agent felt as if I was parting with a kidney!!!!!!!!!!!!

Imtiaz 21 March 2009 11:32 PM

The Sub ND 14060M has gone up in price by U$600 in 2 months.

I visited 6 stores in Tokyo today and 4 stores were sold out on new but one had a used F series.

Other 2 had 1 each. Prices are the same as for the Sub date. The model being discontinued makes it all the more popular.

Yes JJ is correct, why is Rolex killing off one of their most popular models?

3266 1 April 2009 06:22 AM

A True Classic! :clap:

Butter Hook :twit:

The Alpha Beta 3 April 2009 06:48 AM

Hey All

Wondered if someone could answer something for me. I have just bought an M series 16610, also have the rolex engravings in the rehaut.

Are there meant to be any serial numbers on the bracelet? I thought I'd seen some on older submariner bracelets, how come there aren't any on my 2009 M model? Should there not be any on there or am I panicking about nothing! :thinking:

khewett 6 April 2009 06:24 PM

Had the same panic on mine, the braclet numbers are on the ends of the solid inks where it joins the case. You will need to remove strap to see them.

The Alpha Beta 6 April 2009 06:33 PM

haha brilliant, thanks mate. Yeah it did worry me at first but thanks for confiming - can sleep easy now

superformance 15 April 2009 11:26 AM


With regards to the 14060M: why is there 2 kinds of dial, one with extra writing of Superlative chronometer officially certified and the other without? Is it about the movement or the year/series?

Sorry for this question for am not that familiar to this model, Im just having interest because I plan to get one so that my 5513 will have an offspring.

TIA for all of you,


3266 26 April 2009 07:40 AM

Non COSC vs COSC 14060M
The two lines of writing on the dial is for the Non COSC (Superlative Chronometer Officially Certified - Rolex talk for Swiss Chronometer).

While the 4 lines of text is for the COSC Version - Contrôle Officiel Suisse des Chronomètres, the Official Swiss Chronometer Testing Institute, which is the institute responsible for certifying the accuracy and precision of wristwatches in Switzerland. :smokin:

The four lines of text is just a marketing ploy really, since the Explorer I uses the same movement (3030) as the 14060M Non Date Sub and is an Official Swiss Chronometer.

Proving the fact that any Rolex can be made into an Official Chronometer with a bit of tweaking. Not to mention the Fact that this is 'Rolex' we are talking about - So premature failure of the movement is something you need not be to concerned about.

I myself prefer the cleaner and more classic look of the Non COSC - Looks more 007!!! :thumbsup:

greekbum 1 September 2009 12:01 AM

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mustangbrad 5 September 2009 05:26 PM

Great writeup. That black sub lools nuts. Almost want to buy over an older blue face.

Some Pair 6 September 2009 01:40 AM

Great Info....
...and pics as well! Thank you...:thumbsup:

btw. JMO, but Lovin'the coloring of my Bluesy all the more now.... Lucky Me.

JohnnyT 7 September 2009 01:32 AM

Thanks for the info, I am planning on buy a sub for my first Rolex.

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