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The_Walrus 1 July 2014 07:41 PM

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Unsure if this survey relates to GV's only but here is my contribution

Style: non GV
Serial: M random
Purchased: June 2008
Dial: A
Lume all green, hands white

directioneng 1 July 2014 09:32 PM

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M5*****.

seatactony 1 July 2014 10:35 PM

First post on this board.

I purchased a used V series Milgauss from a very reputable seller on one of the boards this week and wore it for the first time last night. I was very surprised at the lack of lume on the watch. The lume is so weak that I couldn't even make out the hands in the dark last night in bed.

I've been wearing the same IWC Flieger for 20 years. It's no world beater when it comes to lime. That said, it is much, much stronger than what I'm seeing on the Milgauss.

Disappointing to the point that I'm having concerns about the watch authenticity. Cause for concern or is this "normal"?

TIA

milgauss2232 2 July 2014 12:12 AM

The blue lume is pretty good..almost as bright and lasting as my seamaster 300 ceramic.

I wonder if these original lumes when serviced by rsc will get their dials switched to the blue lume dials.

sierra11b 2 July 2014 03:18 AM

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Originally Posted by directioneng (Post 5068390)
M5*****.

Thanks for posting these, Eddie.

This is a first Dial "A" example (with the 'M' of milgauss lining up with 'YS')
in this thread with original lume. BUT it's also an M series and we know all the M and V series had the original lume. Question is if there were any Dial "B" where the 'M' in Milgauss lines up with the 'T' in an M or V series watch?

So far the correlation is there with the Random and G serial A and B dials in relation to the lume.

I have looked at a lot of M and V series watche pictures and they all seem similar to Eddie's dial. That said, there's three different dials so far:

Type 1: 'M' of milgauss lining up with 'YS' with original lume found in M and V serial watches

Type 2: 'M' of milgauss lining up with 'T' with original lume found in Random and some G serial watches

Type 3:' M' of milgauss lining up with 'YS' with blue lume found in G serial and some Random watches


We still need more Random and G serial GV watch owners to contribute with their serial, dial type, date of purchase to solidify the correlation between font types and lume on the late series watches.

If you have a M or V serial GV with a dial where the 'M' of milgauss lines up with 'T' please post as well

77T 2 July 2014 04:10 AM

It would be hard to nail down reliable earmarks of the different lume colors by case numbers and even dial fonts IMHO. Since the assembly process at Rolex prolly doesn't involve the watchmaker testing lume colors when they pick a dial from the inventory, you could have a variable output stream during transitions between lume choices.

sierra11b 2 July 2014 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by 77T (Post 5069112)
It would be hard to nail down reliable earmarks of the different lume colors by case numbers and even dial fonts IMHO. Since the assembly process at Rolex prolly doesn't involve the watchmaker testing lume colors when they pick a dial from the inventory, you could have a variable output stream during transitions between lume choices.

Not sure how you can say this with a 6 for 6 hit...? I wouldn't bet my life on it quite yet but feel it's on to something worth pursing further.

So far there's no link between when dial type 2 and 3 were used for either Random and G serial watches but so far dial fonts has been a 100% match on lume (out of 6 dials) which is why we need more participants.

As for dial type 1, we haven't seen a dial where 'M' of milgauss lining up with 'YS' with original lume in a Random or G serial watch (they're all blue so far with this font)... So far type 1 dials have been exclusive to M and V serials.

jphj012 4 July 2014 11:52 AM

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Here is my Milgauss GV info.
G serial
Purchased - 7/6/12
Lume - All Green except for 3 6 9 which is Blue

dseig001 4 July 2014 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jphj012 (Post 5074801)
Here is my Milgauss GV info.
G serial
Purchased - 7/6/12
Lume - All Green except for 3 6 9 which is Blue

Why is this beauty all covered up in stickers??? Take em off and take that thing out!

jphj012 4 July 2014 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by dseig001 (Post 5074983)
Why is this beauty all covered up in stickers??? Take em off and take that thing out!

Good eye my friend. I guess I should hehe.

sierra11b 4 July 2014 09:03 PM

Thank you, James

Your contribution is the 4th Dial B with regular lume!

Score is still 100% with 4 Dial B with regular lume and 3 Dial A with all blue.

milgauss2232 5 July 2014 01:34 AM

i guess we're still looking for that "T" lines with "M" dial in blue lume...are there any?

Laszlo 5 July 2014 02:19 AM

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Originally Posted by sierra11b (Post 5075463)
Thank you, James

Your contribution is the 4th Dial B with regular lume!

Score is still 100% with 4 Dial B with regular lume and 3 Dial A with all blue.

:thumbsup:

sierra11b 5 July 2014 02:47 AM

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Originally Posted by milgauss2232 (Post 5075866)
i guess we're still looking for that "T" lines with "M" dial in blue lume...are there any?

Correct and so far this combination does not exist. Just the three dial types I've mentioned in post 36

milgauss2232 9 July 2014 01:13 AM

Can we safely say the sequence of milgauss dials/lumes are like this, assuming the "T" with "M" blue lume dial doesnt exist?

"YS" with "M" original lume -> "T" with "M" original lume -> "YS" with "M" blue lume

does anyone know roughly when the dials changed?

sierra11b 9 July 2014 01:38 AM

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Originally Posted by milgauss2232 (Post 5084377)
Can we safely say the sequence of milgauss dials/lumes are like this, assuming the "T" with "M" blue lume dial doesnt exist?

"YS" with "M" original lume -> "T" with "M" original lume -> "YS" with "M" blue lume

does anyone know roughly when the dials changed?

I'm convinced the correlation exists but am not sure others think it's enough.

I narrowed down the typeI dial to M & V serial watches by doing my own research (haven't seen a V serial with type2 yet) but don't think we have a definitive answer on the runs of the other two dials.

To me it seems the type3 dial should be the newest dial because of the all blue lume but it's almost like they dumped the type3 dials into the box with existing type2 dials without exhausting the old stock first. Time will tell assuming Rolex doesn't discontinue the GV and we continue to get participation here.

cedargrove 9 July 2014 02:34 AM

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Originally Posted by The_Walrus (Post 5068264)
Unsure if this survey relates to GV's only but here is my contribution

Style: non GV
Serial: M random
Purchased: June 2008
Dial: A
Lume all green, hands white

The lume on my hands is the same as on my plots - light green

corruptor 16 July 2014 09:31 PM

GV
V serial
2009 purchase date
Type 1 dial (M lines up with YS, blue and green lume)

mkmk 17 July 2014 09:32 AM

Non gv.
Black face
A dial (m under ys)
Random serial
All blue lume. Lasts all night.

Sebastion 22 October 2016 06:48 PM

First post.

Sorry to bring post back from the dead but I purchased a Milgauss Black face GV this week and had the choice between both face types at the dealers. Side by side there were more differences than simply the width of the lettering. The early style has a slightly more subdued white on 'Rolex, Oyster and Chrono' lettering. The later dial is quite noticeably brighter white. Two other things I saw was that the early dial had a better balance on the orange second hand and the orange on the 3,6,9 batons. The orange between those seemed a better match, the 369 were a little more saturated and the second hand a little less so than the later dial. So the overall effect is they match a little better. The later dials second hand was a brighter orange and set against its 369 being slightly less colourful too it does give quite a different feel to the watch when combined with the brighter, wider white lettering. If they weren't side by side, I would have had no idea but having them both there, It Really stood out.

I went for the earlier dial, simply because I prefered the more subdued white letters and the more evenly balanced orange bits. It felt a touch more vintage/subtle to my eye. Had I not seen both together I would have happily bought the other and been as happy as a pig in mud.

Anyway, just thought I'd post as I'd not found these other little quirks listed anywhere else.

rollee1 22 October 2016 09:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mfer (Post 5064037)
Did I get that right? So is this the only current model that uses the "older" green lume?

DJII is super luminova green as well.

Nice thread:dude:

spikester31 23 October 2016 12:09 AM

I purchased my Milgauss all shiny and brand new in June and the lume is all blue. My problem is it fades really fast. The blue I like, the amount of time it lasts I think is very poor.
My fave is the white dial with 2 colours

brandrea 23 October 2016 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Laszlo (Post 5064170)
I have a new random GV (new style warranty card) and all lume is blue.

I'd prefer this :cheers:

James444 20 November 2016 04:00 PM

Gv
V series
Type 2 dial (T with M) blue n green Lume
Purchase date sept 2010

James444 20 November 2016 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sierra11b (Post 5069018)
Thanks for posting these, Eddie.

This is a first Dial "A" example (with the 'M' of milgauss lining up with 'YS')
in this thread with original lume. BUT it's also an M series and we know all the M and V series had the original lume. Question is if there were any Dial "B" where the 'M' in Milgauss lines up with the 'T' in an M or V series watch?

So far the correlation is there with the Random and G serial A and B dials in relation to the lume.

I have looked at a lot of M and V series watche pictures and they all seem similar to Eddie's dial. That said, there's three different dials so far:

Type 1: 'M' of milgauss lining up with 'YS' with original lume found in M and V serial watches

Type 2: 'M' of milgauss lining up with 'T' with original lume found in Random and some G serial watches

Type 3:' M' of milgauss lining up with 'YS' with blue lume found in G serial and some Random watches


We still need more Random and G serial GV watch owners to contribute with their serial, dial type, date of purchase to solidify the correlation between font types and lume on the late series watches.

If you have a M or V serial GV with a dial where the 'M' of milgauss lines up with 'T' please post as well

Gv
v series
T with M (blue n green lume)
Purchase date sept 2010

henry333 20 November 2016 05:57 PM

Z blue .. All light blue lume
White .. Blue mix green lume

James444 20 November 2016 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sierra11b (Post 5084425)
I'm convinced the correlation exists but am not sure others think it's enough.

I narrowed down the typeI dial to M & V serial watches by doing my own research (haven't seen a V serial with type2 yet) but don't think we have a definitive answer on the runs of the other two dials.

To me it seems the type3 dial should be the newest dial because of the all blue lume but it's almost like they dumped the type3 dials into the box with existing type2 dials without exhausting the old stock first. Time will tell assuming Rolex doesn't discontinue the GV and we continue to get participation here.

Gv
V series
Type 2 dial (T with M) blue n green Lume
Purchase date sept 2010

dmhines 13 February 2017 03:47 AM

My first post and my first Rolex ... Bought a random serial GV with black face. I was looking forward to the blue and green lume. When it was all blue I was like what the heck is going on? Thought maybe my eyes were playing tricks on me. Took pics with camera and camera saw same thing .. all blue. Then I searched forum and found this thread and learned there is a difference. My Milgauss does have M under YS ... Oh well .. I look at it more in daylight anyway ... :)

Louis (Toronto) 6 March 2017 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Grissom (Post 5064521)


So all V series white dial Milgauss have the all blue lume in the Batons ? Great shot by the way !

Grissom 6 March 2017 04:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Louis (Toronto) (Post 7414776)
So all V series white dial Milgauss have the all blue lume in the Batons ? Great shot by the way !



As far as I am aware yes, Louis. Funny to see this old post of mine pop up, when I decided to again wear the Milgauss after years of wearing other watches.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...5fd18c2ad8.jpg


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