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I am no expert on pricing but I think the blue dial may be tougher to get discounts on. Heard from SA and some friends here it is getting harder to get and VC has stopped taking deposits on those.
The other ones, I would think, will have some sort of discounts if you push hard enough.
However, being an extremely recent owner, I can safely say that it is an absolute joy. I can't say I have owned too many but still a fair few and none have floored me this quickly and comprehensively. All that Holy Trinity chatter makes a lot of sense suddenly.
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