Steve- I hear you and also of course agree with my Italian cousin Marcello...
I think to me the bigger question is and has been why do so many sellers call dials that are clearly water damaged and nasty tropical?? Best advice I can give anyone is stay away! Buy what you know from who you know and avoid pitfalls that many collectors fall into. Again- the biggest danger to me lies in more common references as there are far more of them and I continue to see bad ones out there....HAGWE my friend !!