[nick c]

Originally Posted by cru jones

for ti and tobacco dials, the two luminors that first come to mind for me are the 118 or 564 (564 for the 8-day movement & buying new/new-ish, 118 for not having "8 days" on the dial & a cheaper/easier movement to service). 36 is obviously amazing, but, that's a different price bracket.

For ceramic, since you don't like the wire lugs (shame b/c the 643 is ), the 441 is the choice....and it's a goregous one at that! 441 + asso strap is

I'm just not sure i would want the 441 to be my only pam...i would still want an ss or ti model.

If you also considering steel, there are a ton of options....but, if you want a tobacco dial, the only choice is the 351. The 351 is a really nice choice, but i find the 1950 luminor case to be too thick for my wrist. Your mileage may vary.

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