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Thanks all - Along with the Stella info, I learned something new about Islam.
Looking at these two pics, I also noticed one has the Roman 4 in the chapter ring as IV, the other as IIII. It seems 99% of DDs use the IIII, but not all - Are the very few with IV all repainted or otherwise not fully legit? (I posted this question, with these two more IV pics, as a new thread over in General Rolex Discussion)
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