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Old 18 March 2020, 02:41 AM   #2418
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Originally Posted by mountainjogger View Post
Interesting paper. But as always, there are a lot of unknowns. So, let me play devils advocate.

This sentence was important to me.

"Last, while experience in China and now South Korea show that suppression is possible in the short term, it remains to be seen whether it is possible long-term, and whether the social and economic costs of the interventions adopted thus far can be reduced."

Have to agree that China and SK future experience may be one indicator of whether suppression can buy enough time in a sustainable fashion.

But for me, even if you wanted to pause and let it come back and then pause again, no one knows quite how to do this for a certainty. We know what worked in China and SK to suppress (for now). We know about the delay that did not work in Italy where the result was an out of control spin. What none of the experts know for sure is how to strike a middle balance (assuming that you and the people you are charged with protecting want you to do that).

That is to say, even if you are willing to pause suppression efforts and let it "roll" and spread and sacrifice a certain percentage of the population (and your citizens would let you do that) how far do you go? And the bigger question (or those who survive), are you sure you can can you put the genie back in the bottle? Or did you fail to account for certain factors? Or did the virus mutate and make your analysis irrelevant?

But regardless of whether suppression is viable strategy to buy enough time until more treatment options become available, none of this changes the short term agreement of experts that an unmitigated surge at this point in the UK or US would overwhelm the healthcare systems and possibly lead to serious mortality numbers.

That unpalatable scenario happened worldwide with the Spanish Flu. Which, after a short pause, pretty much ran its course.

And the effects of a pandemic running its course were not kind to the economy. Ala the the "forgotten depression" of 1920-21.

However, I would note that the world economy still came back, despite the effects of WWI and the Spanish Flu. And we got the Roaring 20's.

I remain confused on a lot of this, but hopeful that we can slow it enough not to overwhelm the healthcare system. And hopefully find some treatments. And hopefully not loose too many people.

Stay safe.
I don't want to seem cold, because I agree.

But sometimes there is no good answer. Sometimes it is the lesser evil.

And what will the impact of a global depression be? How many will starve or freeze? How may riots will there be? Will martial law be implemented?

Please don't misunderstand. I don't want to lose anyone either. Not a single person. But sadly that is not an option in the current scenario.
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