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I’d also literally never heard of loupethis until that post in this forum which I think explains the majority of the discount… if a CB is auctioned in a forest but no one was there to bid it, did it make a sound?
As for box and papers and provenance, FPJ can actually verify if it’s lost or stolen before you purchase it if you can get your hands on the serial number so this would waylay concerns of no box and papers a lot I think. I would certainly take a 40k discount for no box and papers in this case I think haha that’s one expensive box.
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