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clew84 · 17 March 2010, 10:57 AM

Way behind the curve here when it comes to Omega. My first nice watch was an Omega Seamaster (still have it). I saw this article and it concerned me - is this true? Try to disregard the tone and his lack of manners:
http://www.askmen.com/fashion/mens-w...-to-omega.html

JBat · 17 March 2010, 11:14 AM

The watch snob is aptly named.

tkc324 · 17 March 2010, 12:23 PM

He is hilarious... prob some kid that read about watch instead of owning them...

Mockingbird · 17 March 2010, 12:25 PM

I read the other questions below, and felt like slapping the stupid man.
1. He's obviously lying, nobody who actually owned those watches would go around bragging about them and how superior he is to other people because he owns them.
2. It seems that he's deficient somewhere else, and has some sort of complex, that makes him want to brag about wealth to the internet, hoping that somebody will care.

I really don't have an opinion about what he said about Omega, it's true that it used to be more respected than it is now, but in my book, it's still a very respected company, and their new sales strategies and models, reveal their plans to try to top Rolex.

kyle L · 17 March 2010, 12:27 PM

What I don't get is why he doesn't post pictures of his Patek, Omega, A Lange and Daytona in his stories. Instead he posts a picture of a $10 generic watch on his wrist.

cody p · 17 March 2010, 05:39 PM

he entertains me - but your mileage may vary.

TheBluePrince · 17 March 2010, 07:40 PM

Omega say that they are cutting off Ad's who won't carry the now much larger range of stock that they demand be carried to stay an AD. They are also cutting off the smaller AD's and one's that sell less etc. They've been doing this for a couple of years now.

What they don't tell us is all the Ad's dropping THEM because of the ott demands made of the AD's and because of the massively increasing failure rate of new watches over the last 2-3 years and then awful customer service/repair by the service centres after a watch has failed. I personally know 3 Ad's who have dropped Omega in the last 18 months because of these factors.

Omega have a 3 point plan to be seen as equal as Rolex. They started this some time ago now. It is -

1. In house range of movements - co-axial and 8500 based line.
2. Celebrity endorsement - Bond, Cindy, Clooney etc...
3. Increase price to be same as Rolex. Average price will increase to 5500-6000 Euros.

TheBluePrince · 17 March 2010, 07:55 PM

I've just read a few more of the watch snob's articles - he's actually bang on the money in most cases and not afraid to speak the truth. Obviously the column is edited to be a little harsh and edgy with an attitude but if you see past that he is talking a lot of sense in most cases.

clew84 · 17 March 2010, 10:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheBluePrince

I've just read a few more of the watch snob's articles - he's actually bang on the money in most cases and not afraid to speak the truth. Obviously the column is edited to be a little harsh and edgy with an attitude but if you see past that he is talking a lot of sense in most cases.

I actually like his articles and take them as entertainment as far as the insults go. However, I thought he went a little too far with this comments on Americans.

Still, his comments on watches are pretty good.

shandy · 18 March 2010, 02:03 AM

Well what do you expect from such a lowest common denomonater site such as this. It is like going to Maxim and expecting to get quality journalism!

openwheelracing · 18 March 2010, 04:01 AM

watch snob! LOL I think the douche ran out of thoughts to write.

JBat · 18 March 2010, 06:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shandy

Well what do you expect from such a lowest common denomonater site such as this. It is like going to Maxim and expecting to get quality journalism!

Exactly.

Ed Rooney · 18 March 2010, 06:58 AM

He's funny, but anyone who thinks a Patek Aquanaut is more rugged than a Datejust is delusional.

WJGESQ · 18 March 2010, 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheBluePrince

Omega say that they are cutting off Ad's who won't carry the now much larger range of stock that they demand be carried to stay an AD. They are also cutting off the smaller AD's and one's that sell less etc. They've been doing this for a couple of years now.

What they don't tell us is all the Ad's dropping THEM because of the ott demands made of the AD's and because of the massively increasing failure rate of new watches over the last 2-3 years and then awful customer service/repair by the service centres after a watch has failed. I personally know 3 Ad's who have dropped Omega in the last 18 months because of these factors.

Omega have a 3 point plan to be seen as equal as Rolex. They started this some time ago now. It is -

1. In house range of movements - co-axial and 8500 based line.
2. Celebrity endorsement - Bond, Cindy, Clooney etc...
3. Increase price to be same as Rolex. Average price will increase to 5500-6000 Euros.

What is the failure rate of Omega compared to other brands, such as Rolex? Curious.

TheBluePrince · 18 March 2010, 09:51 PM

Well you're never going to get official figures but ask a few ADs and look around the watch forums. Omega's have been failing a lot more in the last 2-3 years than they used to.

The failure of a lot of 3313 chrono movements is well documented and there have also been problems with the 2500 movement....they have modded it a couple of times and now they're at 2500C but this is still having failures. Older previously "rock solid" movements like the 1861 in the moonwatch have also been going wrong which hardly ever used to happen. Again, this is well documented on the web and if you ask trusted ADs. I reported this on WUS forum a couple of years ago but was laughed at, not believed, abused and insulted. However since then multiple others have come forward with similar stories.

Their other main problem is the inability of the repair centres to fix the watches in a decent amount of time. It used to take them about 4 weeks and they got it right. Now it's taking upto a year in some cases and the watches are coming back still broken and in worse condition than when they were sent there.

I think Omega tried to do too much too fast and have paid the price in the slipping of quality standards. Also the adoption of a new technology (co-ax) caused problems. They seem to be getting on top of it now and i expect them to return to previous high standards.

17 March 2010, 10:57 AM	#1
clew84 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Real Name: Chris Location: Cincinnati Watch: me soar Posts: 930	Askmen.com article Way behind the curve here when it comes to Omega. My first nice watch was an Omega Seamaster (still have it). I saw this article and it concerned me - is this true? Try to disregard the tone and his lack of manners: http://www.askmen.com/fashion/mens-w...-to-omega.html __________________ Rolex Sea Dweller 16600 Omega SMP IWC 3227-01 Autodromo Prototipo

17 March 2010, 11:14 AM	#2
JBat "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: John Location: Washington Watch: 16710, 16610, DJ Posts: 7,329	The watch snob is aptly named.

17 March 2010, 12:23 PM	#3
tkc324 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Real Name: Tom Location: Chi town Watch: Daytona AP DD Sub Posts: 3,717	He is hilarious... prob some kid that read about watch instead of owning them...

17 March 2010, 12:25 PM	#4
Mockingbird "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: -- Posts: 2,097	I read the other questions below, and felt like slapping the stupid man. 1. He's obviously lying, nobody who actually owned those watches would go around bragging about them and how superior he is to other people because he owns them. 2. It seems that he's deficient somewhere else, and has some sort of complex, that makes him want to brag about wealth to the internet, hoping that somebody will care. I really don't have an opinion about what he said about Omega, it's true that it used to be more respected than it is now, but in my book, it's still a very respected company, and their new sales strategies and models, reveal their plans to try to top Rolex.

17 March 2010, 12:27 PM	#5
kyle L "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: USA Watch: Rolex Explorer I Posts: 10,278	What I don't get is why he doesn't post pictures of his Patek, Omega, A Lange and Daytona in his stories. Instead he posts a picture of a $10 generic watch on his wrist.

17 March 2010, 05:39 PM	#6
cody p "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Canada Watch: Air-King 114200 Posts: 2,878	he entertains me - but your mileage may vary.

17 March 2010, 07:40 PM	#7
TheBluePrince "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: London Posts: 2,081	Omega say that they are cutting off Ad's who won't carry the now much larger range of stock that they demand be carried to stay an AD. They are also cutting off the smaller AD's and one's that sell less etc. They've been doing this for a couple of years now. What they don't tell us is all the Ad's dropping THEM because of the ott demands made of the AD's and because of the massively increasing failure rate of new watches over the last 2-3 years and then awful customer service/repair by the service centres after a watch has failed. I personally know 3 Ad's who have dropped Omega in the last 18 months because of these factors. Omega have a 3 point plan to be seen as equal as Rolex. They started this some time ago now. It is - 1. In house range of movements - co-axial and 8500 based line. 2. Celebrity endorsement - Bond, Cindy, Clooney etc... 3. Increase price to be same as Rolex. Average price will increase to 5500-6000 Euros.

17 March 2010, 07:55 PM	#8
TheBluePrince "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: London Posts: 2,081	I've just read a few more of the watch snob's articles - he's actually bang on the money in most cases and not afraid to speak the truth. Obviously the column is edited to be a little harsh and edgy with an attitude but if you see past that he is talking a lot of sense in most cases.

18 March 2010, 02:03 AM	#10
shandy Banned Join Date: Dec 2008 Real Name: Ian Location: canada Posts: 1,724	Well what do you expect from such a lowest common denomonater site such as this. It is like going to Maxim and expecting to get quality journalism!

18 March 2010, 04:01 AM	#11
openwheelracing "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Glendora Posts: 215	watch snob! LOL I think the douche ran out of thoughts to write.

18 March 2010, 06:58 AM	#13
Ed Rooney "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Annapolis, MD Watch: Sea-Dweller 16600 Posts: 5,081	He's funny, but anyone who thinks a Patek Aquanaut is more rugged than a Datejust is delusional.

18 March 2010, 09:51 PM	#15
TheBluePrince "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: London Posts: 2,081	Well you're never going to get official figures but ask a few ADs and look around the watch forums. Omega's have been failing a lot more in the last 2-3 years than they used to. The failure of a lot of 3313 chrono movements is well documented and there have also been problems with the 2500 movement....they have modded it a couple of times and now they're at 2500C but this is still having failures. Older previously "rock solid" movements like the 1861 in the moonwatch have also been going wrong which hardly ever used to happen. Again, this is well documented on the web and if you ask trusted ADs. I reported this on WUS forum a couple of years ago but was laughed at, not believed, abused and insulted. However since then multiple others have come forward with similar stories. Their other main problem is the inability of the repair centres to fix the watches in a decent amount of time. It used to take them about 4 weeks and they got it right. Now it's taking upto a year in some cases and the watches are coming back still broken and in worse condition than when they were sent there. I think Omega tried to do too much too fast and have paid the price in the slipping of quality standards. Also the adoption of a new technology (co-ax) caused problems. They seem to be getting on top of it now and i expect them to return to previous high standards.

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