Help Identifying Yacht Master Model and Value?

[bres2322]

Would anyone be able to identify the model number of this Rolex?
I am very new to the Rolex world and could use some help.
I have a receipt for this watch that has two numbers on it.
The numbers are 16233 ans 16628.
Sterling Silver with Platinum bezel.
It appears to be a Mother of Pearl face with Black Onyx dials.
The Chronometer Certification says 16233. Nothing close to this watch comes up when I search that number, however.
Any ideas and/or help is greatly appreciated.
Trying to ID for an Estate.
Thanks,
Sean.

[bres2322]

And the number on the band is 6628.

[alubin]

Does not look authentic to me but ill wait for the experts to confirm.

[bres2322]

I took it to a dealer who confirmed it was real.
I also had a 18KT Submariner with me, which he was much, much more focused on, and I neglected to get the clarification on the YM numbers.
I may just go back to him.
Thanks!

[alubin]

I hope your right, something just looks off or could just be a dial replacement/odd cyclops angle. The bezel also just looks plain wrong but could just be a bad pic.

[Jocke]

Originally Posted by bres2322

I took it to a dealer who confirmed it was real.
I also had a 18KT Submariner with me, which he was much, much more focused on, and I neglected to get the clarification on the YM numbers.
I may just go back to him.
Thanks!

I have looking for a new dealer if I was in your shoes.

[bres2322]

another pic

[bres2322]

and another

[Offthehook]

The dial is different
Here is a photo from jocke for comparison. He did the red date upgrade

[iazrollie]

Why didn't the Dealer help you? Seems strange he couldn't answer these questions.

[bres2322]

He helped me a ton with the Submariner. He wasn't sure the YM was real at first either, but he took it back and inspected and weighed it and said it was ok, but something might have been switched or replaced. I guess he wasn't real good.

[WyoWatch]

Yeah despite what the dealer said, the value is 0 since I don't believe it's genuine. Look at the bottom of the dial where the minute markers are printed over the top of the Swiss indication. Cyclops looks wrong, dial is wrong, case and bracelet look wrong, bezel numbers look wrong... the whole thing looks wrong. By the way it would be steel and platinum, they never made that or any other modern watch in sterling silver.

[Oryx]

looks very suspect to me - the bracelet and the bezel are not right as for the dial well thats even worse

[dysondiver]

please tell me your not being serious ,,, take a look at the two pics posted side by side ,,, even with the poor quality of the op pics ,,,, night and day springs to mind ,,,

[bres2322]

Two things!
it is Stainless - sorry about that.
Again - I have no idea about these, which is why I posted here. I am not trying to fool anyone or sell a fake watch.
Thanks for the responses.
Sean.

[bres2322]

And he had two watches - the 18KT Submariner was real for sure, so I sort of thought this one would be too.

[kilyung]

Don't believe a white MOP dial was ever an option on the steel/platinum YM. Furthermore the YM was released in 1998 so would not read Swiss T<25. 'Nough said.

[Offthehook]

Could be a new dial

[Alpino]

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It could have been a 16622. Since this model was put on the market in 1999, swiss-t<25 on the dial is not a possibility. Only a 16628, which is full yellow gold, could have that indication on dial.

Moreover, this type of dial have never been an option for SS/Pt 16622, and when you get it on a 16628 (YG) or 16623 (SS/YG), it is different and far better quality and yellow index strapping not silver.

Don't talk about your bracelet, it's an horrible fake with totally incoherent numbers marking.

All is fake on this watch, cyclop/bezel/..., and I sincerely hope you don't pay too much for it, I say not more than ten bucks ...

[bres2322]

Wow. Thanks. That settles it!
I didn't pay for it, it is part of an estate I am helping with.

Is this one real???????

[Alpino]

Originally Posted by bres2322

Is this one real???????

From only this picture it looks better , more chance to be OK , model 16808 ?

Better pictures could help ...

[bres2322]

16618 I have the box and some paperwork on this one. It was given the seal of approval from the same jeweler as the YM...

[bres2322]

Actually you may be right. An appraisal says 16618 but the serial on the documents is R168088.

[Alpino]

Originally Posted by bres2322

Actually you may be right. An appraisal says 16618 but the serial on the documents is R168088.

If you remove the bracelet you'll find the model number between lugs at 12 , as well as the s/n at 6. With this S/N you'll be able to find the approx. year of production. 16808 was replaced by 16618 in year 87 or 88 .

[bres2322]

Additional pics.

[bres2322]

date on receipt is 6/25/87.

[bres2322]

Entire serial # is R16808830B9290
Chronometer #9623621

[Alpino]

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It looks ok for me.

Take a look here : 16808 , you'll see many pictures of an exceptional sample with a nipple dial like yours except it's the blue version.

Originally Posted by bres2322

Entire serial # is R16808830B9290
Chronometer #9623621

So it's definitely a 16808 from 1986, one of the last models before 16618 arrival on the market. You should find ref 92908 on the bracelet, and a letter code that should be a "k" (maybe a "J" or an "L").

R16808830B9290 = R/16808/8/30/B/9290 -- R=Rolex/16808/8=YG/30=Black dial/B=Bracelet/9290

[bres2322]

Thank you very much! Very helpful!

[lja1821]

The sub looks correct and authentic however that yachtmaster is not as everyone said. The combo doesnt exist, the bezel, crystal, and dial are way off. The bottom of the dial is it says swiss t<25 and its interefering with the minute marks on the dial. Your dealer should be looking for a new job and i def would not return to him.