Rolex Sub SS Authentication Help Please

[Lumos1301]

Hi Guys, Could you please look over these images and tell me if it's authentic or if anything looks unusual..

[Lumos1301]

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[crowncollection]

The watch is fake

[Lumos1301]

thanks crowncollection. i'll leave this one.

[alexthegreat123]

Fake

[Stonedcl]

They even tried to make the movement look real.. Wow ..

[financeman]

Originally Posted by Stonedcl

They even tried to make the movement look real.. Wow ..

I noticed that as well. Interesting

[mjclark32]

Fake

[crowncollection]

clone movement guys, markings are incorrect and you can see the oversized ETA wheels, that and the engravings everywhere of course are wrong WATCHOUT they are out there.

[mrbill2mrbill2]

Fake Fake Fake.

[mmmmp]

Wow you guys are amazing. The dial looked suspect to me but the movement looked like a real Rolex movement to my non expert eyes. Great job folks.

[joseluu]

May God deliver us from the tooth of the tiger, the venom of the cobra and the revenge of the afghan. And now we have to add: and the Polex of the Chinese.

I am grateful,though, that the wrote 2160 on the caseback.

[Lumos1301]

Thanks for all the input, please see details of seller:
Samir Hardeep
samir.h@contractor.net

Avoid..

[Mickey®]

Fake...Interesting though.

[dysondiver]

fakes are indeed getting,,,,,, better / worse you know what i mean.

[Mickey®]

Originally Posted by dysondiver

fakes are indeed getting,,,,,, better / worse you know what i mean.

I agree...the fact that they engraved the movement means they know many will open up to see what's in there...many would be fooled by that. Heck probably lots of us.

[Lgear080]

I thought that the fonts were pretty bad too.
That insert is just off.

[datejuste]

I am new to the forum but amazed at the level of (superficial) quality that these fakers can achieve.

With the tireless work done by members to uncover / expose / denounce the fakers and their evil wares, maybe Rolex should make a contribution to the forum? I suggest a sponsored barbecue in a convenient location! Now that's another issue..............

[drainaps]

Dial is plain wrong. Chinese ETA clone as well. Scary.

[joechants]

1 interesting stuff I would like to know...any1 bought a fake that turn the hand clockwise and the hands followed.understand fake cnt becoz of the movement. Nxt my watch technician told me inaide the movement there's another rolex serial no.which fake cannot copy.any1 knows

[drainaps]

Originally Posted by joechants

1 interesting stuff I would like to know...any1 bought a fake that turn the hand clockwise and the hands followed.understand fake cnt becoz of the movement. Nxt my watch technician told me inaide the movement there's another rolex serial no.which fake cannot copy.any1 knows

There are 3135 clones already where the hands turn in the right direction when you turn the crown. That's not necessarily a giveaway of a fake anymore.

All Rolex movements have a serial number different from the case number. The serial is visible on the "outside frame" of the movement, just by taking the case back out. I would say its rather easy to replicate. I ignore if there are additional anti-counterfeiting elements "inside the movement" as you state, or elsewhere in the watch, but I'd bet there are, in contemporary watches. Those will be known only to the RSC and will help authenticate beyond doubt.

Same with luxury cars, backup VINs are hidden away inside the car, in case the "visible" VIN under the hood is erased or modified. And no, I don't know where those are in a Merc.

By the way we don't "buy fakes" here. You are in the wrong place and in the wrong company if you are looking for one, and I'm afraid your membership will not last long if you keep asking that type of questions around here.......