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seabreeze · 8 March 2013, 07:21 AM

These are all 60 vintage Explorers. One is my birth year, but I am struggling with whether it is real. As a newbie in Rolex and a super extra newbie in Vintage, I would love some opinions on these contenders please.

Thanks!

harry in montreal · 8 March 2013, 09:14 AM

i would only consider number 2. the other 3 are touched up dials.

harry in montreal · 8 March 2013, 09:15 AM

....except the pin on #2 sticks out. bad pin or overpolished case. either way i think i would pass on all 4

apan · 8 March 2013, 09:21 AM

Hard to tell if the dials are refinished as the pictures a bit distorted after resizing. It is natural to have bit of tritium "bleeding" with the numbers on the dial. Better, full size pictures would help.

The case on 2 looks polished but not enough for proper spring bars to poke out. Issue is probably with the spring bars, not case.

seabreeze · 8 March 2013, 09:39 AM

Wow. This is great feedback thanks. I have been so focused in dials I didn't even notice that pin

One thing I did notice is the crown on 1 looks different but I gues maybe it's just no screwed down?

Do you have any stab in value of say 2 given it the best of thesaurus suggestions in where I could be looking? I have hit up all the sites in the vintage thread for dealers

Thanks again!

03cobraa · 8 March 2013, 10:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by harry in montreal

i would only consider number 2. the other 3 are touched up dials.

seabreeze · 8 March 2013, 11:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by harry in montreal

i would only consider number 2. the other 3 are touched up dials.

When they touch up a dial who does that? Domthey touch up just the lume or the small white letters and hash marks or both?

And these would like be original dials reprinted not cheap china dials?

Sorry just trying to learn

crowncollection · 8 March 2013, 11:43 AM

number 2 only fro me, providing the spring bar is simply the wrong type and that is why it sticks out

BoomerSooner · 8 March 2013, 12:38 PM

2

jackruff · 8 March 2013, 01:18 PM

As others of said, except for No.2 all have been redialed (well as far as can tell from those pics) anybody can do a redial and condsidering the quality of those they were no experts!! A dial redo can be anthing form minor touch up to complete....

Jollyclub · 8 March 2013, 01:23 PM

#1 has the best case by a long way. You could pick your teeth with the lugs on the others.

I'd pass on all 4.

seabreeze · 9 March 2013, 01:30 AM

better?

high5 · 10 March 2013, 07:49 AM

yes, pass on all 4. #2 case is over polished, I suspect it has a service dial. You need to verify. Where is the bracelet?

8 March 2013, 09:39 AM	#5
seabreeze 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Real Name: Ed Location: Martha's Vineyard Posts: 832	Wow. This is great feedback thanks. I have been so focused in dials I didn't even notice that pin One thing I did notice is the crown on 1 looks different but I gues maybe it's just no screwed down? Do you have any stab in value of say 2 given it the best of thesaurus suggestions in where I could be looking? I have hit up all the sites in the vintage thread for dealers Thanks again! __________________ Rolex Submariner 114060 - 2013 Rolex Explorer 1016 - 1967 Omega Seamaster 2220.80 2007 Victorinox Swiss Army 24221 - circa 1985 Sold but wish I didn't Rolex DateJust 1603 - 1972

8 March 2013, 11:43 AM	#8
crowncollection "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Real Name: David Location: australia Posts: 20,165	number 2 only fro me, providing the spring bar is simply the wrong type and that is why it sticks out __________________ watches many

8 March 2013, 07:21 AM	#1
seabreeze 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Real Name: Ed Location: Martha's Vineyard Posts: 832	Some opinions on these 1016s - Experienced eyes needed These are all 60 vintage Explorers. One is my birth year, but I am struggling with whether it is real. As a newbie in Rolex and a super extra newbie in Vintage, I would love some opinions on these contenders please. Thanks!

8 March 2013, 09:14 AM	#2
harry in montreal "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Montreal Watch: The Habs pick 1st! Posts: 3,589	i would only consider number 2. the other 3 are touched up dials.

8 March 2013, 09:15 AM	#3
harry in montreal "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Montreal Watch: The Habs pick 1st! Posts: 3,589	....except the pin on #2 sticks out. bad pin or overpolished case. either way i think i would pass on all 4

8 March 2013, 09:21 AM	#4
apan "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 170	Hard to tell if the dials are refinished as the pictures a bit distorted after resizing. It is natural to have bit of tritium "bleeding" with the numbers on the dial. Better, full size pictures would help. The case on 2 looks polished but not enough for proper spring bars to poke out. Issue is probably with the spring bars, not case.

8 March 2013, 12:38 PM	#9
BoomerSooner "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: USA Watch: Explorer Posts: 794	2

8 March 2013, 01:18 PM	#10
jackruff "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Australia Watch: eclectic.. Posts: 191	As others of said, except for No.2 all have been redialed (well as far as can tell from those pics) anybody can do a redial and condsidering the quality of those they were no experts!! A dial redo can be anthing form minor touch up to complete....

8 March 2013, 01:23 PM	#11
Jollyclub "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: UK Posts: 70	#1 has the best case by a long way. You could pick your teeth with the lugs on the others. I'd pass on all 4.

9 March 2013, 01:30 AM	#12
seabreeze 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Real Name: Ed Location: Martha's Vineyard Posts: 832	better?

10 March 2013, 07:49 AM	#13
high5 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: hong kong Posts: 300	yes, pass on all 4. #2 case is over polished, I suspect it has a service dial. You need to verify. Where is the bracelet?

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