Advice needed

[lapince]

As some of you may know, I am planning on getting as my 3rd watch a 5167R, but lately with all these threads about full RG 5980's I have started to be liking full gold pieces, the 5980-1R being totally out of my financial league I found one which is quite cool, on their website the pics are wrong it looks like very red gold when in fact it's pink gold.

So that watch is the AP Jumbo in RG with blue dial, it's more expensive than the Aquanaut but it's possible to get one new at around 35K in euros, when for a brand new Aquanaut it's more around 27K, both are beautiful, the PP would get probably more wrist time as the Jumbo would not be suitable for all occasions, so wanted to ask you guys what you think knowing that I have the 5712 on bracelet and the 5726 on strap.

I love the Aquanaut with that brown rubber strap and chocolate dial it goes very well with RG, and the Jumbo in RG and that magnificent blue is very cool also, just would like to know your opinions as if I need to concentrate on one or the other as they are not the same price.

I saw in real a 15400 in SS but was a little disappointed but I think that I would not be disappointed with a RG 15202, but before buying would definitely want to see one in real, saw the 5167R one time and found it really cool.

Of course the back of the Jumbo is nicer to look at with the skeletonized rotor than the PP but the PP is still very nice to look at, leaning a bit more towards the PP as it's cheaper and it would have more wrist time as I would not be comfortable wearing a full gold watch every situation as I would the Aquanaut.

Thanks for your thoughts and here's a few pics to help you decide, oh and I posted the same in AP and PP forum to see the difference in results.

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[lapince]

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[lipjin]

I'd argue that the 15202 is a classic in steel and RG is just a touch OTT for me. The 5167R is just refined classy and sporty so I'd pick that one to stay in the PP family!

[sturgeon123456]

Tough call here,

The RO is nicer looking in my opinion, although contrary to what most people say I find that AP bracelets are just average at best for comfort.

I would go PP in this case although if it was the 15400 (which you said you didn't like) that's the one I would go for in a heartbeat

[DECR]

Jumbo for me. Stunning watch!

[bayerische]

Of the two Patek. More versatile imho.

[Cru Jones]

For me, Jumbo is best in SS and Aquanaut is best in RG.

[VICI]

Is it really a tough decision?

AP all the way.

Look at that bracelet and bezel.

[HL65]

Tough call for sure and even as someone who owns a 5167R in this case I think I would actually go for the RG Jumbo. It is the one AP that I still lust after! Something about that RG bracelet and blue dial. Again tough call and either way can't lose.

[AK797]

I too could go both ways, both are stunning, I'm thinking of a 5711 but am also considering the 5167r.

[JJ WA]

Two beautiful watches. I would certainly go PP because I still can't see myself wearing a gold bracelet (although I love RG cases on either leather or rubber). RG bracelets in general, especially AP's, are awesome looking but are so 'not me'. Maybe some years down the road I change my mind...

[Tan]

I would most likely go PP. Not sure if you had a chance to look at a 15300, but they are quite popular as an alternative to the 15400.

[kb24]

your current collection:
5712 on bracelet
5726 on strap
- both nautilus models
- both patek

3rd watch finalists:
PP 5167r
- i would prefer the SS version when it comes to aquanaut.
- its a sporty piece, hence its weird to see it in RG and to top it all off the worst part is that brown rubber.. i mean seriously, they couldve used black rubber and saved it some grace
- if you get the 5167 on steel with black strap, it would go very similar to your 5726 on strap.

AP 15202
- definitely the classier and more worthwhile piece compared to the aquanaut
- a different brand in your listing which is also in the same league
- now this is a piece where a RG looks beautiful
- a timeless classic

r u kidding me buddy? you're comparing a Royal Oak to an Aquanaut??? hands down the AP wins in this case..

[GB-man]

I would have the 15202r but I have the 5167a already. Not fond of the brown rubber. Something alluring about that thin, finely crafted jumbo in RG.

Frankly I'm surprised you are even considering it as you have made your dislike for AP quite known. Also water resistance much better on 5167r, and you being in Thailand might want that

[redsubby]

I thought you made it very clear that you feel the SS Jumbo quality is sub-par compare to PP? I don't see how the RG version is any different. The only difference is it's in RG and it's heavier. The finish and quality are still the same.
If I was to choose I would get the full RG 15400 as I can't do no seconds hand.

[AK797]

In fairness to Arnaud he has only tried on the 15400 not the 202, and after falling in love with the Nautilus the 400 can then seem overlarge and thus maybe less refined, so the 202 is a better match for him I think.

[lapince]

Originally Posted by AK797

In fairness to Arnaud he has only tried on the 15400 not the 202, and after falling in love with the Nautilus the 400 can then seem overlarge and thus maybe less refined, so the 202 is a better match for him I think.

That's why I would like to see the Jumbo, I never said I didn't like them, just said I was a little disappointed with the 15400 and the Jumbo skeleton, so I would like to see the Jumbo blue dial in SS and RG, I never said I didn't like them, on pics I like them a lot...

[mimo5000]

Originally Posted by lapince

That's why I would like to see the Jumbo, I never said I didn't like them, just said I was a little disappointed with the 15400 and the Jumbo skeleton, so I would like to see the Jumbo blue dial in SS and RG, I never said I didn't like them, on pics I like them a lot...

Arnaud, you really must try on the 15202...it's a superb fit and feel. I've tried only the SS, but in comparison to both 15400 on bracelet and a 15300 on strap (I might be wrong on the model number there), there is a significant difference with the 15202.
You and I have similar wrists 6.5-6.75 and flat. And we both love our 5712's. I will say that the 15202 is VERY comparable in fit and feel, but the Nautilus wins...slightly more refined feel vs. the purposeful brutality that Genta designed into the original RO.
I still love the 15202 and was as close as I could be to buying one (the dealer didn't return my call when I was in Miami and one was available), and I'm glad it played out that way!
Just make sure you try on the 202 before deciding this time👍

[BABKA]

I would go for the 15202. The glimmer on that bracelet is outstanding and reflects light beautifully. Both have similar finishing on the bezel and case so be careful not to scratch the stunning bezel!

[lapince]

Originally Posted by mimo5000

Arnaud, you really must try on the 15202...it's a superb fit and feel. I've tried only the SS, but in comparison to both 15400 on bracelet and a 15300 on strap (I might be wrong on the model number there), there is a significant difference with the 15202.
You and I have similar wrists 6.5-6.75 and flat. And we both love our 5712's. I will say that the 15202 is VERY comparable in fit and feel, but the Nautilus wins...slightly more refined feel vs. the purposeful brutality that Genta designed into the original RO.
I still love the 15202 and was as close as I could be to buying one (the dealer didn't return my call when I was in Miami and one was available), and I'm glad it played out that way!
Just make sure you try on the 202 before deciding this time👍

Yes I have to try and find mine to try, I also like in pics the SS version but for me it seems too close to our 5712's, especially that I like the blue dial one, the white and black kind of leave me cold...

Originally Posted by BABKA

I would go for the 15202. The glimmer on that bracelet is outstanding and reflects light beautifully. Both have similar finishing on the bezel and case so be careful not to scratch the stunning bezel!

I have the same bezel on my 2 watches, the 5712 has a micro scratch but it's visible only under a certain light and angle and anyways if you wear the watch there will be scratches unfortunately...

[aleeboy]

The Patek is the nicer watch of the two. This one is an easy choice :)

[el1125]

Originally Posted by kb24

your current collection:
5712 on bracelet
5726 on strap
- both nautilus models
- both patek

3rd watch finalists:
PP 5167r
- i would prefer the SS version when it comes to aquanaut.
- its a sporty piece, hence its weird to see it in RG and to top it all off the worst part is that brown rubber.. i mean seriously, they couldve used black rubber and saved it some grace
- if you get the 5167 on steel with black strap, it would go very similar to your 5726 on strap.

AP 15202
- definitely the classier and more worthwhile piece compared to the aquanaut
- a different brand in your listing which is also in the same league
- now this is a piece where a RG looks beautiful
- a timeless classic

r u kidding me buddy? you're comparing a Royal Oak to an Aquanaut??? hands down the AP wins in this case..

agree 100%

[redsubby]

Originally Posted by lapince

That's why I would like to see the Jumbo, I never said I didn't like them, just said I was a little disappointed with the 15400 and the Jumbo skeleton, so I would like to see the Jumbo blue dial in SS and RG, I never said I didn't like them, on pics I like them a lot...

I highly doubt 15400 or Jumbo skeleton's quality is anything short of the Jumbo. If anything, the Jumbo will be lighter than the 15400.

[Demonoid]

Pp

[sturgeon123456]

Am I the only one that thinks that the Aquanaut looks like a Michelin Tire Tread?

Its still a great looking watch....just that dial pattern...

Mind you APs look like waffles...so its Michelin Vs Breakfast

[lapince]

Originally Posted by sturgeon123456

Am I the only one that thinks that the Aquanaut looks like a Michelin Tire Tread?

Its still a great looking watch....just that dial pattern...

Mind you APs look like waffles...so its Michelin Vs Breakfast

[benlee]

Originally Posted by sturgeon123456

Am I the only one that thinks that the Aquanaut looks like a Michelin Tire Tread?

Its still a great looking watch....just that dial pattern...

Mind you APs look like waffles...so its Michelin Vs Breakfast

Are there Octagonal Waffles?

[AK797]

Originally Posted by benlee

Are there Octagonal Waffles?

He means the dial, and I think the Aqua's looks like a globe, and like both dials immensely.

[GB-man]

Originally Posted by sturgeon123456

Am I the only one that thinks that the Aquanaut looks like a Michelin Tire Tread?

Its still a great looking watch....just that dial pattern...

Mind you APs look like waffles...so its Michelin Vs Breakfast

I always liked that about the aquanaut bracelet. I like tires!

If you really want to go all the way, you need the chopard

[AK797]

Originally Posted by GB-man

I always liked that about the aquanaut bracelet. I like tires!

If you really want to go all the way, you need the chopard

I had a Mille Miglia, really cracking watch, just wish it wasn't 44mm with a thin bezel.