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Fat_ninja · 11 August 2019, 11:34 PM

Was looking at watchpricr trends.... looks like the 12 is the only nautilus still moving up? And the 11 is stable. Any thoughts as to why? Or maybe that’s not accurate.

Was looking at GMT’s and others too but the 12 jumped out at me

Separately what happens to the interest level of dress watches when the nautilus slow?

jrs146 · 11 August 2019, 11:43 PM

I have no idea. But I did picture the 12’s power reserve indicator moving up.

Fat_ninja · 11 August 2019, 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by jrs146

I have no idea. But I did picture the 12’s power reserve indicator moving up.

Lol. Mine is always fully wound when I wear it

GB-man · 12 August 2019, 01:33 AM

In all seriousness will you still buy pateks when they stop going up in value over msrp?

Fat_ninja · 12 August 2019, 01:39 AM

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In all seriousness will you still buy pateks when they stop going up in value over msrp?

I’m going to be honest. A lot less than I am now. I don’t enjoy losing money on anything in my life.

pam66 · 12 August 2019, 01:44 AM

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I’m going to be honest. A lot less than I am now. I don’t enjoy losing money on anything in my life.

same holds for me.

d11n · 12 August 2019, 01:48 AM

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Separately what happens to the interest level of dress watches when the nautilus slow?

assuming the cause of the slow down for nautilus will be the economy, then the whole market will slow down. I would predict proportionally across current interest in sport and dress with sport taking drops from the irrational current highs but dress dropping from msrp. So folks will perceive different things...but I'm pretty sure that in that eventuality, many will be very surprised at just how many watches are out there of all the current hard to find and long wait listed models...

Aquaman · 12 August 2019, 02:02 AM

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Originally Posted by pam66

same holds for me.

+ 1

d11n · 12 August 2019, 02:11 AM

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Originally Posted by GB-man

In all seriousness will you still buy pateks when they stop going up in value over msrp?

buy low...sell high

GB-man · 12 August 2019, 03:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat_ninja

I’m going to be honest. A lot less than I am now. I don’t enjoy losing money on anything in my life.

Thanks for the honest answer. Just curious as you seem very interested in the price action which is fine. Everyone has a different reason to be in any hobby I suppose.

SL BRABUS · 12 August 2019, 03:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat_ninja

Was looking at watchpricr trends.... looks like the 12 is the only nautilus still moving up? And the 11 is stable. Any thoughts as to why? Or maybe that’s not accurate.

Was looking at GMT’s and others too but the 12 jumped out at me

Separately what happens to the interest level of dress watches when the nautilus slow?

There are more 11 then 12 on the secondary market for sale......

At least the 11 price is not dropping.....

Bearxj86 · 12 August 2019, 03:45 AM

The drop already occurred more on the dealer side. I expect a strong rebound and finish to the year. Just my 2 cents.

shaunylw · 12 August 2019, 03:49 AM

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Originally Posted by GB-man

In all seriousness will you still buy pateks when they stop going up in value over msrp?

If Patek was sold to Walmart and the 5712 retailed for $3500, i would still want it. If anything the value over msrp is a huge problem for me. It prevents me from getting watches i really want.

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RussW · 12 August 2019, 04:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat_ninja

Was looking at watchpricr trends.... looks like the 12 is the only nautilus still moving up? And the 11 is stable. Any thoughts as to why? Or maybe that’s not accurate.

Was looking at GMT’s and others too but the 12 jumped out at me

Separately what happens to the interest level of dress watches when the nautilus slow?

Looks like a temporary blip, and the 11 is rising again. Good timing for that recent Hodinkee article!

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rolexpatek363 · 12 August 2019, 04:01 AM

The £100,000 5712 can't be far off. There's one at £91,747 at C24 today.

Aquaman · 12 August 2019, 04:04 AM

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Looks like a temporary blip, and the 11 is rising again. Good timing for that recent Hodinkee article!

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mmmm i wonder if it was patek letting them release the article at this time

as i do think they are driving this madness

just my opiniion

AK797 · 12 August 2019, 04:23 AM

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Originally Posted by GB-man

In all seriousness will you still buy pateks when they stop going up in value over msrp?

I think a lot depends on when you've joined the market, same for Rolex, if you've come in the last year or so then this is the norm, and falling prices are not and are to be avoided at all costs.

Passionata · 12 August 2019, 04:28 AM

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Originally Posted by rolexpatek363

The £100,000 5712 can't be far off. There's one at £91,747 at C24 today.

When reach 150k mine will be for sale

Passionata · 12 August 2019, 04:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Aquaman

mmmm i wonder if it was patek letting them release the article at this time

as i do think they are driving this madness

just my opiniion

I really doubt patek cares what these wannabes type.Patek is an institution these bloggers are just rounding errors.

chunkythebulldog · 12 August 2019, 04:41 AM

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Originally Posted by rolexpatek363

The £100,000 5712 can't be far off. There's one at £91,747 at C24 today.

I'm quite happy for mine to be the first one if anybody wants to make me an offer.

wulin · 12 August 2019, 05:29 AM

If 5712 gets discontinued it will definitely be over 100K. Look what happened to 5726/1A and they weren't even that popular.

Vipes · 12 August 2019, 05:41 AM

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If 5712 gets discontinued it will definitely be over 100K. Look what happened to 5726/1A and they weren't even that popular.

Crazy how the 5726 skyrocketed when discontinued. The 5712 will definitely be over 100k if it gets discontinued.

GB-man · 12 August 2019, 06:33 AM

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Originally Posted by AK797

I think a lot depends on when you've joined the market, same for Rolex, if you've come in the last year or so then this is the norm, and falling prices are not and are to be avoided at all costs.

I think you’re spot on.

GreenLantern · 12 August 2019, 11:52 AM

You all need to charge your phones. :)

Fat_ninja · 12 August 2019, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by GB-man

Thanks for the honest answer. Just curious as you seem very interested in the price action which is fine. Everyone has a different reason to be in any hobby I suppose.

:)

I’ll buy less nautilus’ yes, but I’ll probably still buy a ton of watches. Maybe I’ll get a chance to buy a few Rm’s :). I’d like a 11-03 and a 35-02

Also I heard there is going to be a series of P-0x Tudors. So probably try to get the p-02,p-03, P-04

Ichiran · 12 August 2019, 01:19 PM

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:)

I’ll buy less nautilus’ yes, but I’ll probably still buy a ton of watches. Maybe I’ll get a chance to buy a few Rm’s :). I’d like a 11-03 and a 35-02

Also I heard there is going to be a series of P-0x Tudors. So probably try to get the p-02,p-03, P-04

Don't forget those bonbon! They are spectacular

Fat_ninja · 12 August 2019, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Ichiran

Don't forget those bonbon! They are spectacular

We saw them. They offered one to us... it’s weird

Ichiran · 12 August 2019, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat_ninja

We saw them. They offered one to us... it’s weird

You skip a bonbon!

Fat_ninja · 12 August 2019, 01:27 PM

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You skip a bonbon!

I’m told that the 67-02 is next for me, but I’m hoping the market collapses in China/HK next few months and I get offered a 11-03 instead

Henry.hoe · 12 August 2019, 03:02 PM

5711A has been hype up to 80 plus and now its the 5712A becuase people suddenlybrealised that between the 2 the 5712A is a better watch because its is a complication with power reserve and moon phase . At that pricing why pay 90 plus for a 2 hand watch

11 August 2019, 11:34 PM	#1
Fat_ninja Banned Join Date: May 2018 Real Name: Jonathan Location: USA Watch: P-01 Posts: 11,772	5711/5712 Was looking at watchpricr trends.... looks like the 12 is the only nautilus still moving up? And the 11 is stable. Any thoughts as to why? Or maybe that’s not accurate. Was looking at GMT’s and others too but the 12 jumped out at me Separately what happens to the interest level of dress watches when the nautilus slow?

11 August 2019, 11:43 PM	#2
jrs146 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Real Name: Josh Location: Lost in time Watch: Me Nae Nae Posts: 9,821	I have no idea. But I did picture the 12’s power reserve indicator moving up. __________________ "Sometimes the songs that we hear are just songs of our own." -Jerome J. Garcia, Robert C. Hunter

12 August 2019, 01:33 AM	#4
GB-man 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: USA Watch: addiction issues Posts: 36,970	In all seriousness will you still buy pateks when they stop going up in value over msrp? __________________

12 August 2019, 03:45 AM	#12
Bearxj86 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: Los Angeles Watch: 3970 Posts: 3,812	The drop already occurred more on the dealer side. I expect a strong rebound and finish to the year. Just my 2 cents.

12 August 2019, 04:01 AM	#15
rolexpatek363 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: up a hill Posts: 1,669	The £100,000 5712 can't be far off. There's one at £91,747 at C24 today.

12 August 2019, 05:29 AM	#21
wulin "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: California Watch: PP,AP,Rolex,IWC Posts: 578	If 5712 gets discontinued it will definitely be over 100K. Look what happened to 5726/1A and they weren't even that popular.

12 August 2019, 11:52 AM	#24
GreenLantern "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: Montana Posts: 3,223	You all need to charge your phones. :)

12 August 2019, 03:02 PM	#30
Henry.hoe "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2019 Location: Singapore Posts: 46	5711A has been hype up to 80 plus and now its the 5712A becuase people suddenlybrealised that between the 2 the 5712A is a better watch because its is a complication with power reserve and moon phase . At that pricing why pay 90 plus for a 2 hand watch

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