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Jonbaines · 6 May 2020, 06:57 AM

Hi. First ever post, so hello. I’m in need of a little help.

I’ve been to view a DateJust today at a neighbours who wants to sell his watch Serial number starts with a 4 and comes up as a 1975 year.
But the problem I need noticed was a reference of 16220.
The watch seems totally authentic in every way but I walked away. Owner said he’d hold it for me once I found out some more info.
Can somebody help with this please. Many thanks.

nyyankees · 7 May 2020, 01:14 AM

I believe that’s a 16030. I’m sure a vintage expert will come along to confirm or deny.

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nyyankees · 7 May 2020, 01:21 AM

16030 would be acrylic crystal from late 70’s. 16220 would have a sapphire crystal and be a newer model.

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padi56 · 7 May 2020, 01:30 AM

Case serials

1974 3761535 to 4194183
1975 3886050 to 4267100
1976 4155863 to 4538000

Jonbaines · 7 May 2020, 05:00 AM

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Originally Posted by padi56

Case serials

1974 3761535 to 4194183
1975 3886050 to 4267100
1976 4155863 to 4538000

Thanks for this. Yes it’s a 4418xxx serial. So a 1975. The pictures aren’t great but the ref between the lugs is 16220.

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Fredrik · 7 May 2020, 05:16 AM

It seems that the serial starts with 44, it's a service case. It has been replaced.

Tools · 7 May 2020, 06:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Jonbaines

Thanks for this. Yes it’s a 4418xxx serial. So a 1975. The pictures aren’t great but the ref between the lugs is 16220.

As mentioned, a 44xxxxx is a service case. No telling what the original age may have been without the service paperwork noting the change.

Jonbaines · 7 May 2020, 06:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Tools

As mentioned, a 44xxxxx is a service case. No telling what the original age may have been without the service paperwork noting the change.

Well everyday is a school day. Thought I knew most things but this is great information so thanks. No paperwork but the clasp is 1997. I just thought it had a new clasp. So it authentic but year unknown.

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Jonbaines · 7 May 2020, 06:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Fredrik

It seems that the serial starts with 44, it's a service case. It has been replaced.

Thanks for this. Something new I’ve learnt today. Much Appreciate your information.

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Dan S · 7 May 2020, 08:02 AM

Yes, 4.4M is a service case. 4.7M also, I believe.

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Dan S 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Oct 2018 Location: Colorado, USA Posts: 5,995	Yes, 4.4M is a service case. 4.7M also, I believe. __________________ @oldwatchdan on IG

7 May 2020, 01:14 AM	#2
nyyankees "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Southeastern PA Watch: 1216610 Posts: 2,131	I believe that’s a 16030. I’m sure a vintage expert will come along to confirm or deny. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

7 May 2020, 01:21 AM	#3
nyyankees "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Southeastern PA Watch: 1216610 Posts: 2,131	16030 would be acrylic crystal from late 70’s. 16220 would have a sapphire crystal and be a newer model. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

7 May 2020, 05:16 AM	#6
Fredrik 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Sweden Watch: 1680 Posts: 1,831	It seems that the serial starts with 44, it's a service case. It has been replaced.

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