Daytona SS series????

[Milgauss2008]

What is the difference that a Series makes, i see there has been a demand for F series daytonas and M Series, what is the difference???????

[Gaijin]

The year in which they were made. M is the newest. F is about 4 years old or so.

[SPACE-DWELLER]

There is at least one difference. Some F-series Daytonas had the socalled "Skinny" hands.

Click this link to see what this is about.

[Milgauss2008]

i understand that it determines the year of manufacture, Is one series more desired than another?

[Gaijin]

Originally Posted by Milgauss2008

i understand that it determines the year of manufacture, Is one series more desired than another?

Well, if you want a brand new one go with an M or even a late Z.

Some think that the skinny hands dial is more collectable than the later fat hands versions. Fat hands are easier to read.

[Milgauss2008]

so i take it there is no difference in the movement????

[topcat30093]

No the movements are the same.
I believe that it was a roundabout the 2000 that the movement changed from the Zenith to the ALL NEW Rolex movement.

[Milgauss2008]

now we are getting somewhere, so the movement did change in or around 2000.

great thanks

[frostie]

Originally Posted by Milgauss2008

now we are getting somewhere, so the movement did change in or around 2000.

great thanks

Yes the movement did change in 2000. All daytonas produced after 2000 have the in house rolex movement caliber 4130

All daytonas produced before 2000 have the 4030 zenith movement which rolex borrowed and modified from zenith

[GT2 Guy]

I was wondering the same myself.

[countrysquire]

What is the difference in the models with the second hand at the six o'clock position and the second hand at the nine o'clock position?

[DSJ]

Originally Posted by countrysquire

What is the difference in the models with the second hand at the six o'clock position and the second hand at the nine o'clock position?

I'm not sure I understand your question countrysquire, but either way, WELCOME TO TRF! Tell us a bit about yourself and what brought you here!

[countrysquire]

Thanks for the reply. I've always wanted the gold daytona and my wife gave it to me last weekend as a wedding present. I'm trying to get some help in confirming that it is authentic because it has the second hand at 9 o'clock, doesn't have the green sticker on the back and is not as heavy as I remember these watches being. It maybe a used one.

[Markg]

Originally Posted by countrysquire

What is the difference in the models with the second hand at the six o'clock position and the second hand at the nine o'clock position?

the current movements have the second hand in the 6 o'clock position, while the prior movement (zenith) had it in the 9 o'clock position.

pics would help.

[sngricky]

Older watches like the 16523 with the zenith movement has the 2nd hand on the middle left(nine o'clock position while in the newer series like the 116520, its right at the bottom centre(6 o'clock position).

At first I found it strange too as i bought my 16523 after the 116520 and found that the 2nd hands are moving in the wrong place!! :)

Its ok to have a pre-own rolex as long as its a real rolex, its a piece of art! :)

[TZL]

Aren't Z and newer SS Daytona's heavier than earlier ones? I have tried on a P, F, and own a Z and M, and in my "mind scale" the Z and M feel heavier than the P and F.....

[marshallr47]

Originally Posted by SPACE-DWELLER

There is at least one difference. Some F-series Daytonas had the socalled "Skinny" hands.

Click this link to see what this is about.

You got it Bo.

[marshallr47]

Originally Posted by TZL

Aren't Z and newer SS Daytona's heavier than earlier ones? I have tried on a P, F, and own a Z and M, and in my "mind scale" the Z and M feel heavier than the P and F.....

I believe M is the latest. Z series appeared '06-'07. M appeared in late '07-'08.

[TZL]

I know M is the latest, I have a M SS Daytona and a Z SS Daytona....I was just commenting that the M and Z's feel heavier than earlier daytonas i've tried on

Does anyone know if this is true or just my random observation?

Originally Posted by marshallr47

I believe M is the latest. Z series appeared '06-'07. M appeared in late '07-'08.

[ashu2289]

Originally Posted by TZL

I know M is the latest, I have a M SS Daytona and a Z SS Daytona....I was just commenting that the M and Z's feel heavier than earlier daytonas i've tried on

Does anyone know if this is true or just my random observation?

Hi Tzl, although you felt the difference it is not so. The Daytonas from the P-serial to till date i.e. M serial are of same weights.

[mking0714]

Originally Posted by TZL

I know M is the latest, I have a M SS Daytona and a Z SS Daytona....I was just commenting that the M and Z's feel heavier than earlier daytonas i've tried on

Does anyone know if this is true or just my random observation?

I believe you are right.....the older Zenith movements had hollow end links compared to the newer ones that have solid end links......I thought I was going crazy too until I had Rolex Beverly Hills confirm this....for a while, I thought I had after market bracelets for my zenith movement Daytonas.....they re-assured me that they were all genuine!. Hope this helps!.

[Starwalker]

It is my understanding, don't know to what extent this is true, but....on a side note, the daytona's that are Z series and on-wards have the Parachrome Blue hairspring, and the ones before that we're made in house by rolex just have a normal (non-blue parachrome hairspring), not talking about the zenith movts, talking about when rolex first came out with their own mechanisims for the daytona.....they upgraded the parachrome hair spring with teh parachrome blue hair spring Z series on wards, the difference......not tooooo sure....i Guess..magnetics fields and shock resistance......it would be great if someone could please advise, or lol help me get my facts straight....thanks!

[ROLEXOFMIAMI]

is V the newest ?

[ROBERT123]

Yes, but some V series still has the old bracelet. If your V series has the new bracelet, then that is the newest of the SS daytona.

[bewithabob]

http://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=34267

[joelc87]

Also at some point (I believe late Z series) Rolex introduced the Parachrom Bleu hairspring into the cal. 4130.

[PhilK]

Hi all.... there is reference above to the different bracelet variances present on a V prefix SS daytona. I've just received a call from my AD saying that my Daytona has finally arrived in stock. He has confirmed it is a V prefix. When I go there to inspect the watch, what am I looking out for to ensure it is the latest bracelet? Is there anything else I should be looking out for? Many thanks.

[jem4]

Rather have the old Zenith Movment

[mpkRolex]

Originally Posted by kfsal

It is my understanding, don't know to what extent this is true, but....on a side note, the daytona's that are Z series and on-wards have the Parachrome Blue hairspring, and the ones before that we're made in house by rolex just have a normal (non-blue parachrome hairspring), not talking about the zenith movts, talking about when rolex first came out with their own mechanisims for the daytona.....they upgraded the parachrome hair spring with teh parachrome blue hair spring Z series on wards, the difference......not tooooo sure....i Guess..magnetics fields and shock resistance......it would be great if someone could please advise, or lol help me get my facts straight....thanks!

Mine is a D serial 116520 and it has the blue parachrome hairspring. I had my AD open and show it to me to confirm.

[LnL]

It was a Vacheron movement, before the Zenith, wasn't it?

Lee