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lecorsaire · 22 January 2018, 07:29 AM

Hey guys,
I found a good price on what I've been waiting a long time for. Maybe a little too good (relatively small premium) considering the usual market price and being unworn with stickers and everything.It's from abroad but the card matches the serial on the rehaut. They look legit. However, even though I have enough experience to identify most fakes, what I've seen coming out lately has freaked me out. I've never owned a Daytona but have tried them on of course. IMO it's authentic. The font looks right to me but I'm aware of the 3 and 9 subdial spacing issue on fakes. For some reason the white ones look like the subdials are further from the markers than the black dial versions. I guess it's an illusion. Not the highest res photos, but let me know what you think. The watch won't last long and I have to make up my mind within the next day or 2. I'm really fed up of waiting for the AD to hook me up. Thanks!

kauffee · 22 January 2018, 07:36 AM

Even if the watch in the pics is real, do you trust the seller enough to ship that watch? Sending pics is easy. Why is he selling it for only a small markup?

You're in NYC so you have good international flights. Would it be possible to pick the watch up in person? Cost of the ticket might pay off in piece of mind.

And1dre · 22 January 2018, 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by kauffee

Even if the watch in the pics is real, do you trust the seller enough to ship that watch? Sending pics is easy. Why is he selling it for only a small markup?

You're in NYC so you have good international flights. Would it be possible to pick the watch up in person? Cost of the ticket might pay off in piece of mind.

100% agree. Real pictures can be found anywhere.

Swashplate · 22 January 2018, 07:39 AM

Buy the seller...

DocHorton · 22 January 2018, 07:40 AM

It would be almost impossible for a fake to replicate the Rolex stickers, but as poster above mentioned, you may not receive the watch in the pics.

Make him set the time to 7:11 and run the chrono to 52 seconds and send you a pic with his name and date on a sticky note. That can verify he actually has the watch.

Justinmg · 22 January 2018, 07:40 AM

I’m not sure on real or fake but I would not put that kinda cash down unless I was 100% sure it was real, not by letting people on TRF tell u it’s real or fake by a couple photos.

lecorsaire · 22 January 2018, 07:42 AM

It would be a local deal. No shipping so there's no danger involved. He has sent me pics of the card with serial. I'm going to call the AD and confirm early tomorrow morning.

Justinmg · 22 January 2018, 07:43 AM

If they can duplicate a whole watch I can’t imagine the stickers would stump them, but what do I know

AK797 · 22 January 2018, 07:44 AM

The latest fake of this looks very good so be careful guys. This one is real.

But as said could be a bait and switch so be sure of the seller and of any recourse you have.

lecorsaire · 22 January 2018, 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Justinmg

If they can duplicate a whole watch I can’t imagine the stickers would stump them, but what do I know

I've seen some videos on YT with a Chinese guy using a time grapher and what they are now putting out is pretty scary. This is not like the garbage from a decade or even 5 years ago. With PM it's not so much a problem (weight is a dead giveaway) but it definitely is with SS.

lecorsaire · 22 January 2018, 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by AK797

The latest fake of this looks very good so be careful guys. This one is real.

But as said could be a bait and switch so be sure of the seller and of any recourse you have.

Thanks a lot! This is what my gut feeling was. Now I just have to make sure the guy is 100% willing to meet me at a bank or AD. No funny stuff and no shipping.

WatchWeb · 22 January 2018, 07:57 AM

Buy the seller as well as the watch. If you have any doubt , walk away..

SWISSAHOLICS · 22 January 2018, 08:06 AM

Small premium for a watch like this is too good to be true. Beware!!

lecorsaire · 22 January 2018, 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by WatchWeb

Buy the seller as well as the watch. If you have any doubt , walk away..

Definitely. I have pretty good intuition for the most part and have dealt with enough people to know when to walk away. I have always been suspicious when people offer something for less than usual, but it does happen. I've done it myself when I've wanted to move something quickly, albeit not something of this value.

4srolex · 22 January 2018, 08:15 AM

I recommend doing a FaceTime with the seller if he is willing not to just view the watch but now you have his contact information if you need to get a hold of the seller. The white dial Daytona sub dials are further apart than the black dial on the 116500

RHIII · 22 January 2018, 08:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AK797

The latest fake of this looks very good so be careful guys. This one is real.

But as said could be a bait and switch so be sure of the seller and of any recourse you have.

^^^^ This

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GradyPhilpott · 22 January 2018, 08:27 AM

If you have to ask us, you're already over your head.

Don't do it.

nauticajoe · 22 January 2018, 08:31 AM

As mentioned buy the seller first. If it's too good to be true.....walk away!

BLACKHORSE 6 · 22 January 2018, 08:36 AM

Anything shady about how he wants the transaction to take place? If so, back out.

lecorsaire · 22 January 2018, 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by BLACKHORSE 6

Anything shady about how he wants the transaction to take place? If so, back out.

I just contacted him to tell him I'll take it. Waiting for a reply. It's Sunday evening so I probably won't hear back until tomorrow morning. Anything other than a face to face deal is a deal breaker for me.

JR16 · 22 January 2018, 08:47 AM

The PICS look legit to me. Agree w contacting AD on the card

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BLACKHORSE 6 · 22 January 2018, 09:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lecorsaire

I just contacted him to tell him I'll take it. Waiting for a reply. It's Sunday evening so I probably won't hear back until tomorrow morning. Anything other than a face to face deal is a deal breaker for me.

Recommend that you use a form of payment that provides you some protection, just in case it’s a really good fake and you open the back to find that it isn’t a Rolex movement.

Good luck!

10klakes · 22 January 2018, 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by gradyphilpott

if you have to ask us, you're already over your head.

Don't do it.

+1

GradyPhilpott · 22 January 2018, 09:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lecorsaire

I just contacted him to tell him I'll take it. Waiting for a reply. It's Sunday evening so I probably won't hear back until tomorrow morning. Anything other than a face to face deal is a deal breaker for me.

Good luck.

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R@lex · 22 January 2018, 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by DocHorton

It would be almost impossible for a fake to replicate the Rolex stickers,

They do nowadays...

kzm40 · 22 January 2018, 09:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 4srolex

I recommend doing a FaceTime with the seller if he is willing not to just view the watch but now you have his contact information if you need to get a hold of the seller. The white dial Daytona sub dials are further apart than the black dial on the 116500

Subdials further apart??

Justinmg · 22 January 2018, 09:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GradyPhilpott

If you have to ask us, you're already over your head.

Don't do it.

Great advice

mountainjogger · 22 January 2018, 09:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GradyPhilpott

If you have to ask us, you're already over your head.

Don't do it.

Agree. Might turn out ok, but not worth the risk.

4srolex · 22 January 2018, 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kzm40

Subdials further apart??

It’s an optical illusion because of the sub rings. I compared mine and noticed it. It’s been discussed before with other members.

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hbombkid · 22 January 2018, 10:08 AM

I think best option is a face to face deal at RSC. They can verify movement and make sure it’s not listed as stolen.

Also if that all works out I would not let the watch out of your sight don’t leave the building etc. that prevents a bait n switch.

22 January 2018, 07:29 AM	#1
lecorsaire "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: NYC Watch: 116710BLNR Posts: 1,541	Quick legit check on 116500LN Hey guys, I found a good price on what I've been waiting a long time for. Maybe a little too good (relatively small premium) considering the usual market price and being unworn with stickers and everything.It's from abroad but the card matches the serial on the rehaut. They look legit. However, even though I have enough experience to identify most fakes, what I've seen coming out lately has freaked me out. I've never owned a Daytona but have tried them on of course. IMO it's authentic. The font looks right to me but I'm aware of the 3 and 9 subdial spacing issue on fakes. For some reason the white ones look like the subdials are further from the markers than the black dial versions. I guess it's an illusion. Not the highest res photos, but let me know what you think. The watch won't last long and I have to make up my mind within the next day or 2. I'm really fed up of waiting for the AD to hook me up. Thanks! __________________ Rolex 116710 BLNR Rolex Day Date 118238 Champagne/Batons

22 January 2018, 07:40 AM	#6
Justinmg "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Real Name: Justin Location: FL Watch: PO Posts: 3,353	I’m not sure on real or fake but I would not put that kinda cash down unless I was 100% sure it was real, not by letting people on TRF tell u it’s real or fake by a couple photos. __________________ //////////////////////////////// Member of The Nylon Nation Does it do anything? It tells the time.

22 January 2018, 07:42 AM	#7
lecorsaire "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: NYC Watch: 116710BLNR Posts: 1,541	It would be a local deal. No shipping so there's no danger involved. He has sent me pics of the card with serial. I'm going to call the AD and confirm early tomorrow morning. __________________ Rolex 116710 BLNR Rolex Day Date 118238 Champagne/Batons

22 January 2018, 07:43 AM	#8
Justinmg "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Real Name: Justin Location: FL Watch: PO Posts: 3,353	If they can duplicate a whole watch I can’t imagine the stickers would stump them, but what do I know __________________ //////////////////////////////// Member of The Nylon Nation Does it do anything? It tells the time.

22 January 2018, 07:57 AM	#12
WatchWeb "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Real Name: John Location: UK Watch: GMT2C, Sub LVC Posts: 798	Buy the seller as well as the watch. If you have any doubt , walk away.. __________________ GMT2 Ceramic 2012. 2015 ”Hulk” Submariner. 2015 white dial 116520.

22 January 2018, 07:36 AM	#2
kauffee 2024 ROLEX DATE-JUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Real Name: Matt Location: Portland, OR Watch: 116610LN, 116500LN Posts: 1,379	Even if the watch in the pics is real, do you trust the seller enough to ship that watch? Sending pics is easy. Why is he selling it for only a small markup? You're in NYC so you have good international flights. Would it be possible to pick the watch up in person? Cost of the ticket might pay off in piece of mind.

22 January 2018, 07:39 AM	#4
Swashplate 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2017 Real Name: James Location: Seattle/Italy Posts: 659	Buy the seller...

22 January 2018, 07:40 AM	#5
DocHorton "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: God Bless Texas Watch: Smurf, DD40, SkyD. Posts: 1,499	It would be almost impossible for a fake to replicate the Rolex stickers, but as poster above mentioned, you may not receive the watch in the pics. Make him set the time to 7:11 and run the chrono to 52 seconds and send you a pic with his name and date on a sticky note. That can verify he actually has the watch.

22 January 2018, 07:44 AM	#9
AK797 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Real Name: Neil Location: UK Watch: ing ships roll in Posts: 59,278	The latest fake of this looks very good so be careful guys. This one is real. But as said could be a bait and switch so be sure of the seller and of any recourse you have.

22 January 2018, 08:06 AM	#13
SWISSAHOLICS "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Here! Watch: Rolex Posts: 4,366	Small premium for a watch like this is too good to be true. Beware!! __________________ 16610LN \| 16613LB \| 16710 Pepsi \| 118238 \| 116500 (White) \| 116500 (Black) \| 116710BLNR \| 116610LV "The one thing I fear most is time; time waits for no one and leaves no options."

22 January 2018, 08:15 AM	#15
4srolex "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: West Coast Watch: Gears in motion Posts: 572	I recommend doing a FaceTime with the seller if he is willing not to just view the watch but now you have his contact information if you need to get a hold of the seller. The white dial Daytona sub dials are further apart than the black dial on the 116500 __________________ Rolex, Zenith, Omega, Tag Heuer When people ask how was your day? I tell them: "Same circus just different clowns!"

22 January 2018, 08:27 AM	#17
GradyPhilpott 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: New Mexico Watch: 116710 BLNR Posts: 34,353	If you have to ask us, you're already over your head. Don't do it. __________________ JJ Inaugural TRF $50 Watch Challenge Winner

22 January 2018, 08:31 AM	#18
nauticajoe "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Real Name: Joe Location: PA Posts: 14,774	As mentioned buy the seller first. If it's too good to be true.....walk away!

22 January 2018, 08:36 AM	#19
BLACKHORSE 6 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2013 Real Name: Dave Location: USA Watch: Rolex SS Daytona Posts: 2,625	Anything shady about how he wants the transaction to take place? If so, back out.

22 January 2018, 08:47 AM	#21
JR16 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: USA Posts: 6,194	The PICS look legit to me. Agree w contacting AD on the card Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro

22 January 2018, 10:08 AM	#30
hbombkid "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: VA Watch: Sub 116610 Posts: 1,082	I think best option is a face to face deal at RSC. They can verify movement and make sure it’s not listed as stolen. Also if that all works out I would not let the watch out of your sight don’t leave the building etc. that prevents a bait n switch.

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