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cjohns · 15 September 2012, 12:04 AM

Just going to pull the trigger on a set of Gene's ELs so I was testing the fitment of a Nato I already have and remembered a post on the no hole spring bars popping out if you move the band around!,,,,sure as heck it happen right off!!!
Do you think with Gene's ELs and the fact the band is very tight to the watches case back when it's attach to the watch this will stop this from happening???WHY WHY WHY did the dump the holes????????????????CJ.

NYC6 · 15 September 2012, 12:16 AM

Do you think its because the bar tips dont penetrate deep enough into the lugs?

withthesword · 15 September 2012, 12:21 AM

Natos are already tight to begin with. How did they fit with etur els? I remember on my pre-c sub I could only fit natos not zulus. Could be too little space?

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kilyung · 15 September 2012, 12:59 AM

Three words... Lug holes rule!

ecsub44 · 15 September 2012, 01:40 AM

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Originally Posted by kilyung

Three words... Lug holes rule!

+1

subkrawler · 15 September 2012, 01:50 AM

Chances are, the strap is grabbing the collar of the spring bar, and when you wiggle the strap, it's pulling the plunger back, thus popping the spring bar. The old bars, for the lug holed cases, didn't have the collars, so the strap couldn't grab.

SLS · 15 September 2012, 01:59 AM

^^^
The shouldered spring bars get caught on the strap and are more likely to come off, part of the reason I will not use straps on non lug hole watches.

The GMT Master · 15 September 2012, 02:00 AM

Another sad reminder that the Sub is no longer a true diving tool

subtona · 15 September 2012, 02:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kilyung

Three words... Lug holes rule!

Quote:

Originally Posted by ecsub44

+1

+ another 1

SSG215 · 15 September 2012, 02:41 AM

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Originally Posted by The GMT Master

Another sad reminder that the Sub is no longer a true diving tool

Agreed.

youenjoymyself · 15 September 2012, 03:15 AM

I have a sub-c and at first really wanted to wear natos and leather straps on it.

It just doesn't work. Doesn't fit properly or look good. Keep it on that awesome bracelet.

And make like me - buy a vintage piece. Best of both worlds! The lug holes are definitely convenient and a nice looking touch.

z32turbo · 15 September 2012, 03:17 AM

I've had my GMTIIC on a NATO with no issues thus far. I will be much more careful now after reading this thread.

JJL · 15 September 2012, 05:57 AM

I was able to put NATOs and ZULUs on my Yacht-Master with no lug holes with no problem. I wore it for almost a year like that. Worked like a charm

honeybear · 15 September 2012, 06:17 AM

It seems strange to use endlinks together with a NATO. Perhaps if you used thicker spring bars, where the main shaft is much thicker than the collars for removing the spring bars, it would be more secure.

Eric88 · 15 September 2012, 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by the gmt master

another sad reminder that the sub is no longer a true diving tool

+1000

cjohns · 15 September 2012, 07:38 AM

The problem simply lies with the band catching on the inside ring of the spring bar that is used for band removal and pulls the bar out,,,I have a nato on my older Master II with ELs and that makes the band real tight,,I just wonder what it would take to dislodge the bar??? Holes do rule!!!!!

15 September 2012, 12:04 AM	#1
cjohns "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Real Name: Clark Location: Ramsey Minnesota Watch: GMT Master II Posts: 953	New ND Sub Nato DANGER!!!! Just going to pull the trigger on a set of Gene's ELs so I was testing the fitment of a Nato I already have and remembered a post on the no hole spring bars popping out if you move the band around!,,,,sure as heck it happen right off!!! Do you think with Gene's ELs and the fact the band is very tight to the watches case back when it's attach to the watch this will stop this from happening???WHY WHY WHY did the dump the holes????????????????CJ. __________________ GMT Master II 126300 41 White stick smooth Explorer 39mm SOLD ,, 114060 SOLD NIB Sub ND SOLD,,Shouldn't have!!!Crap!

15 September 2012, 12:21 AM	#3
withthesword "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Real Name: Matte Location: Toronto Watch: 16570 Posts: 1,006	Natos are already tight to begin with. How did they fit with etur els? I remember on my pre-c sub I could only fit natos not zulus. Could be too little space? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ Ready. Ready. Hack. My Flickr Photostream Wishlist: 1984 gmt

15 September 2012, 01:50 AM	#6
subkrawler "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: USA Posts: 392	Chances are, the strap is grabbing the collar of the spring bar, and when you wiggle the strap, it's pulling the plunger back, thus popping the spring bar. The old bars, for the lug holed cases, didn't have the collars, so the strap couldn't grab. __________________

15 September 2012, 01:59 AM	#7
SLS "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Real Name: Scott Location: GMT -7 Watch: GMT's & Sub's Posts: 10,399	^^^ The shouldered spring bars get caught on the strap and are more likely to come off, part of the reason I will not use straps on non lug hole watches. __________________ "The bitterness of poor quality remains long after the sweetness of lower price is forgotten." -Benjamin Franklin Member No. 922

15 September 2012, 03:17 AM	#12
z32turbo "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Sea Level Watch: Varies Posts: 6,877	I've had my GMTIIC on a NATO with no issues thus far. I will be much more careful now after reading this thread. __________________ Instagram @z32turbo

15 September 2012, 12:16 AM	#2
NYC6 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Real Name: Dennis Location: L.I./N.Y. Watch: SUBMARINER 14060M Posts: 2,769	Do you think its because the bar tips dont penetrate deep enough into the lugs?

15 September 2012, 12:59 AM	#4
kilyung 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Cave Watch: Sundial Posts: 33,873	Three words... Lug holes rule!

15 September 2012, 02:00 AM	#8
The GMT Master "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Real Name: Chris Location: England Posts: 8,149	Another sad reminder that the Sub is no longer a true diving tool

15 September 2012, 03:15 AM	#11
youenjoymyself "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: New York Watch: SubC! Posts: 251	I have a sub-c and at first really wanted to wear natos and leather straps on it. It just doesn't work. Doesn't fit properly or look good. Keep it on that awesome bracelet. And make like me - buy a vintage piece. Best of both worlds! The lug holes are definitely convenient and a nice looking touch.

15 September 2012, 05:57 AM	#13
JJL "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: US Watch: 1680 Red & 16622 Posts: 2,449	I was able to put NATOs and ZULUs on my Yacht-Master with no lug holes with no problem. I wore it for almost a year like that. Worked like a charm

15 September 2012, 06:17 AM	#14
honeybear "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: San Diego, CA Watch: Vacheron Overseas Posts: 297	It seems strange to use endlinks together with a NATO. Perhaps if you used thicker spring bars, where the main shaft is much thicker than the collars for removing the spring bars, it would be more secure. __________________ Patek Philippe Calatrava 5119J; Vacheron Constantin Overseas; Jaeger-LeCoultre Grande Reverso Duo; Rolex Submariner 114060; Baume and Mercier Hampton Annual Calendar; Tudor Heritage Black Bay.

15 September 2012, 07:38 AM	#16
cjohns "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Real Name: Clark Location: Ramsey Minnesota Watch: GMT Master II Posts: 953	The problem simply lies with the band catching on the inside ring of the spring bar that is used for band removal and pulls the bar out,,,I have a nato on my older Master II with ELs and that makes the band real tight,,I just wonder what it would take to dislodge the bar??? Holes do rule!!!!! __________________ GMT Master II 126300 41 White stick smooth Explorer 39mm SOLD ,, 114060 SOLD NIB Sub ND SOLD,,Shouldn't have!!!Crap!

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