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nobleone · 2 November 2011, 04:17 AM

I have done a good amount of reading on how to spot fakes, but am not sure on this one as all the after market Bling is in the way.

How much would it cost to restore this to an original piece if real?

Thanks in advance for the information.

achova · 2 November 2011, 04:27 AM

... a real Rolex embellished to to point of looking fake.

I'd expect a dial could be had for $200+; hands a few hundred; and the bezel probably >$1000 - and at the same time could have it inspected and serviced to ensure all-is-well.

Call it $2000+ but you can sell the chips to a diamond merchant to recover a little....

yannis · 2 November 2011, 04:28 AM

Lovely hands!! Customized so that they do not interfere with the artisan crafted diamonds

T-Rip · 2 November 2011, 04:51 AM

Are you kidding me??? what a POS

nobleone · 2 November 2011, 05:00 AM

achova: Thank you for the informative post.

RRGHOST1 · 2 November 2011, 05:02 AM

No wonder someone wants to change the look,as it is, it looks dreadfull !

nobleone · 2 November 2011, 05:05 AM

haydendillon: Is it your opinion that the watch is fake or just excessive embellishment?

crowncollection · 2 November 2011, 07:06 AM

i would not touch this watch, i would say it's an original case, i cant see the band well enough to discifer the markings properly so it could be fake also, probably an original movement although there are no pictures so who knows, with all these alterations its bound to fail somewhere, waterproofing or just stop due to misfitting components.

achova · 2 November 2011, 07:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crowncollection

i would not touch this watch, i would say it's an original case, i cant see the band well enough to discifer the markings properly so it could be fake also, probably an original movement although there are no pictures so who knows, with all these alterations its bound to fail somewhere, waterproofing or just stop due to misfitting components.

Agree that this is a high-risk prospect. With ability to return & discounted to cover the cost to set it right - could make sense.

Put a different way - to some it's value as a watch is equal to its scrap gold value. A nice scenario would be: verify authenticity; pick it up at scrap gold price; set it right and enjoy.

~100 grams (total weight of gold - later models may be higher / verify!)
X
.032 (grams per troy oz)
X
18/24 (18k gold)
X
$1700/oz (spot price)
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$4000

RollieFan · 4 November 2011, 01:22 AM

That thing is HIDEOUS. I would say its fake. The finishing on the braclet is just plain bad.

T-Rip · 4 November 2011, 01:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nobleone

haydendillon: Is it your opinion that the watch is fake or just excessive embellishment?

IMO Its fake...The cronet is bad, the hands are terrible, the print looks off too..

freefly · 7 November 2011, 11:39 AM

Fake. No proof marks on the case back. Bracelet clasp markings/engravings are bad.

I like how the case back gasket is sticking out! LOL.

cajunron · 7 November 2011, 12:56 PM

Yeah, I can't see the hallmarks on the case either.

brkanand · 7 November 2011, 01:05 PM

Not my cup of tea!

Andad · 7 November 2011, 04:54 PM

Fake IMO.

dieseldragon · 9 November 2011, 05:03 AM

There is a marking on the case back...
Markings on clasp look good to me...

Hands look like they are off a Ladies watch...
Gasket probably sticking out because someone has opened it up...

Looks to me like a watch that has been extensively modified and then well worn by its owner, bracelet looks a bit stretched and watch looks tired.

If I was a betting man, I would say that under the after market modifications, it's genuine.

(not that I would want the hideous pile of

)

drtooth73 · 9 November 2011, 06:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dieseldragon

There is a marking on the case back...
Markings on clasp look good to me...

Hands look like they are off a Ladies watch...
Gasket probably sticking out because someone has opened it up...

Looks to me like a watch that has been extensively modified and then well worn by its owner, bracelet looks a bit stretched and watch looks tired.

If I was a betting man, I would say that under the after market modifications, it's genuine.

(not that I would want the hideous pile of

)

I,too, would think that someone would invest in the diamond bezel only if the watch was real.
The aftermarket additions are way over $1000. The watch itself would be priced at $10000+ by a legitimate dealer

TSW · 9 November 2011, 06:10 AM

Franken watch!

dysondiver · 9 November 2011, 06:20 AM

id guess if some one had it in your hand and popped the back off the story may change.
although looking at the gasket , some one else has thought the same.

Onikage · 10 November 2011, 05:10 AM

*Crosses himself*

Silver Lobster · 11 November 2011, 01:54 AM

I agree the after market things are not in keeping with the whole Rolex look...is it me or is the Day window not level?

freefly · 11 November 2011, 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dieseldragon

There is a marking on the case back...

It should be on the inside (along with the others).
There does not appear to be any 18k hallmarks on the back of the actual case (lugs).

Quote:

Originally Posted by dieseldragon

Markings on clasp look good to me...

They are not.

2 November 2011, 04:27 AM	#2
achova "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Real Name: Adam C. Location: W. Washington Watch: it vary. Posts: 626	... a real Rolex embellished to to point of looking fake. I'd expect a dial could be had for $200+; hands a few hundred; and the bezel probably >$1000 - and at the same time could have it inspected and serviced to ensure all-is-well. Call it $2000+ but you can sell the chips to a diamond merchant to recover a little.... __________________ GMT-Master 1675 - Explorers - Rolex & Tudor Submariners - Omega Speedmasters - etc.

2 November 2011, 04:28 AM	#3
yannis "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Real Name: Yannis Location: Europe Watch: maniac Posts: 9,070	Lovely hands!! Customized so that they do not interfere with the artisan crafted diamonds __________________ Rolex Submariner 116610LV \| Tudor 79220N DSSD MEMBERS - OWNERS CLUB

2 November 2011, 04:51 AM	#4
T-Rip "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2011 Real Name: Tom Location: Victorville CA Watch: Rolex DSSD 116660 Posts: 3,189	Are you kidding me??? what a POS __________________ T-Rip Formally known as Haydendillon Rolex: DSSD 116660, 16622 PLATTY

2 November 2011, 07:06 AM	#8
crowncollection "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Real Name: David Location: australia Posts: 20,167	i would not touch this watch, i would say it's an original case, i cant see the band well enough to discifer the markings properly so it could be fake also, probably an original movement although there are no pictures so who knows, with all these alterations its bound to fail somewhere, waterproofing or just stop due to misfitting components. __________________ watches many

7 November 2011, 04:54 PM	#15
Andad 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Real Name: Eddie Location: Australia Watch: A few. Posts: 37,001	Fake IMO. __________________ E

2 November 2011, 05:00 AM	#5
nobleone "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Houston TX Posts: 3	achova: Thank you for the informative post.

2 November 2011, 05:02 AM	#6
RRGHOST1 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Real Name: luke standing Location: england Watch: Rolex TT SubC Blue Posts: 3,913	No wonder someone wants to change the look,as it is, it looks dreadfull !

2 November 2011, 05:05 AM	#7
nobleone "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Houston TX Posts: 3	haydendillon: Is it your opinion that the watch is fake or just excessive embellishment?

4 November 2011, 01:22 AM	#10
RollieFan "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Midwest Posts: 35	That thing is HIDEOUS. I would say its fake. The finishing on the braclet is just plain bad.

7 November 2011, 11:39 AM	#12
freefly "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Real Name: Eric Location: AZ Watch: 4&5-digit Sub/GMTs Posts: 1,974	Fake. No proof marks on the case back. Bracelet clasp markings/engravings are bad. I like how the case back gasket is sticking out! LOL.

7 November 2011, 12:56 PM	#13
cajunron 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 X2 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Real Name: Ronnie Location: Southeastern USA Watch: Omega Seamaster PO Posts: 3,858	Yeah, I can't see the hallmarks on the case either.

7 November 2011, 01:05 PM	#14
brkanand 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Real Name: DrK Location: India Watch: 4=YMDaytonaGMTHulk Posts: 7,050	Not my cup of tea!

9 November 2011, 05:03 AM	#16
dieseldragon "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Real Name: Ian Location: Spain Watch: Ω & ♛ Posts: 1,321	There is a marking on the case back... Markings on clasp look good to me... Hands look like they are off a Ladies watch... Gasket probably sticking out because someone has opened it up... Looks to me like a watch that has been extensively modified and then well worn by its owner, bracelet looks a bit stretched and watch looks tired. If I was a betting man, I would say that under the after market modifications, it's genuine. (not that I would want the hideous pile of ) __________________ Rolex GMT, Zenith Chronomaster Sport, Zenith Pilot type 20 40mm, IWC mkXVI, Tudor BB58, Glashütte Original SeaQ 39. 5

9 November 2011, 06:10 AM	#18
TSW "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Real Name: TSW Location: Le Brassus Watch: Rolex & AP's Posts: 27,449	Franken watch! __________________ AP Owners Club IG @swiss.watch.connection

9 November 2011, 06:20 AM	#19
dysondiver "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Real Name: tom Location: northern ireland Watch: my fins Posts: 10,063	id guess if some one had it in your hand and popped the back off the story may change. although looking at the gasket , some one else has thought the same.

10 November 2011, 05:10 AM	#20
Onikage "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: England Watch: 16710, 16628 Posts: 7,757	Crosses himself __________________ GMT II 16710 TRADITIONAL ( D- Serial #) ROLEXFANBOY P-Club Member #4

11 November 2011, 01:54 AM	#21
Silver Lobster "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: England Watch: S/S 6694 Posts: 83	I agree the after market things are not in keeping with the whole Rolex look...is it me or is the Day window not level? __________________ Enjoy yourself. It's later than you think.

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