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Norabezaline · 27 November 2014, 12:19 AM

Hi, I have recently come into contact with an old pocket watch marked "W&D", a little bit of research led me to Wilsdorf and Davis, the founders of Rolex as far as I can tell. The watch is currently not working, and I am likely to get it restored, but I would like to know a little more about it. I can make out the markings; "15 Jewels", "W&D", "Swiss Made", and the number "445484". Any information would be appreciated, thanks.

MILGAUSS88 · 27 November 2014, 04:23 AM

Looks like an Aegler watch movement. Typical in early Rolex. Probably made in the teens.
Not an overly expensive watch. So, I would not poor a ton of money into fixing it, unless for sentimental reasons, or you absolutely love it.

Norabezaline · 27 November 2014, 04:52 AM

I see, thanks. I just gave it a tap, and it started ticking, so it might not be in such a bad condition after all. I've heard that the lubricant inside can dry up, and cause this kind of problem, is that true? Other than the glass that is missing from the front, it seems to be in a fairly good condition.

MILGAUSS88 · 27 November 2014, 06:24 PM

Certainly could be all it needs. I take my watches to an old time repair man. And it would probably cost me $30. I have seen other people pay $100, $300, $500 even more for similar repairs. UK is probably more expensive than the US. I think I would sell it as is if repairs were over $150 and move on to next watch.
Again, depends on you attachment.

Norabezaline · 28 November 2014, 01:03 AM

Ok, I will bear that in mind. My father found it on the pavement a few weeks ago, so I'm not really attached to it, it was just a strange find, he thought it was worthless, a fake or something, so he just gave it to me. Anyway, you've been a great help, thanks :)

R.W.T. · 28 November 2014, 01:23 PM

Movement is a Rebberg. It is an early movement made by Aegler named for the neighborhood of the manufacture. This is "mid grade" finish.

FYI Most early top grade Rolex movements were Aegler. All of the movements you see in the top grade oyster and oyster perpetual watches were of Aegler S.A. Manufacture. Some movements were contracted from other makers. Aegler S.A. was completely absorbed by Rolex and they have always been the manufacture of the modern Rolex movements.

27 November 2014, 12:19 AM	#1
Norabezaline "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Uk Posts: 3	Wilsdorf & Davis Pocket Watch Hi, I have recently come into contact with an old pocket watch marked "W&D", a little bit of research led me to Wilsdorf and Davis, the founders of Rolex as far as I can tell. The watch is currently not working, and I am likely to get it restored, but I would like to know a little more about it. I can make out the markings; "15 Jewels", "W&D", "Swiss Made", and the number "445484". Any information would be appreciated, thanks.

27 November 2014, 04:23 AM	#2
MILGAUSS88 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: mississippi river Posts: 2,977	Looks like an Aegler watch movement. Typical in early Rolex. Probably made in the teens. Not an overly expensive watch. So, I would not poor a ton of money into fixing it, unless for sentimental reasons, or you absolutely love it.

27 November 2014, 04:52 AM	#3
Norabezaline "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Uk Posts: 3	I see, thanks. I just gave it a tap, and it started ticking, so it might not be in such a bad condition after all. I've heard that the lubricant inside can dry up, and cause this kind of problem, is that true? Other than the glass that is missing from the front, it seems to be in a fairly good condition.

27 November 2014, 06:24 PM	#4
MILGAUSS88 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: mississippi river Posts: 2,977	Certainly could be all it needs. I take my watches to an old time repair man. And it would probably cost me $30. I have seen other people pay $100, $300, $500 even more for similar repairs. UK is probably more expensive than the US. I think I would sell it as is if repairs were over $150 and move on to next watch. Again, depends on you attachment.

28 November 2014, 01:03 AM	#5
Norabezaline "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Uk Posts: 3	Ok, I will bear that in mind. My father found it on the pavement a few weeks ago, so I'm not really attached to it, it was just a strange find, he thought it was worthless, a fake or something, so he just gave it to me. Anyway, you've been a great help, thanks :)

28 November 2014, 01:23 PM	#6
R.W.T. "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Central Texas Posts: 1,973	Movement is a Rebberg. It is an early movement made by Aegler named for the neighborhood of the manufacture. This is "mid grade" finish. FYI Most early top grade Rolex movements were Aegler. All of the movements you see in the top grade oyster and oyster perpetual watches were of Aegler S.A. Manufacture. Some movements were contracted from other makers. Aegler S.A. was completely absorbed by Rolex and they have always been the manufacture of the modern Rolex movements.

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