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SearChart · 22 June 2016, 06:38 AM

This watch came in for the crystal, but the movement was in worse shape

Rotor axle was completely worn down and it scraped all the bridges

But it'll be fine when I'm done with it

cop414 · 22 June 2016, 06:40 AM

Bas, I bet that you'll have that like new in no time. I guess that it was a blessing in disguise that it came in for the crystal repair!

Is that some corrosion on the rotor?

SearChart · 22 June 2016, 06:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cop414

Bas, I bet that you'll have that like new in no time. I guess that it was a blessing in disguise that it came in for the crystal repair!

Is that some corrosion on the rotor?

Nope, the rotor axle was so worn out that the rotor could scrape the caseback.

Porter · 22 June 2016, 07:11 AM

Uuuffff! That's a crash!!
What about the balance wheel? No issues?
Sure in a few days...problem solved!!
Good luck Bas!

FTX I · 22 June 2016, 07:47 AM

Disturbing image..

Spartacus · 22 June 2016, 07:52 AM

Can't wait to see the finished product

Ravager135 · 22 June 2016, 07:53 AM

Yup, please deliver OP. I love these before and after photo montages.

AK797 · 22 June 2016, 09:43 AM

You are going to be our make-over show expert!

The Joker · 22 June 2016, 09:51 AM

Just needs some WD40

FTX I · 22 June 2016, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by The Joker

Just needs some WD40

watchwatcher · 22 June 2016, 10:06 AM

Ouch.

albmich · 22 June 2016, 11:06 AM

So I don't know much about servicing watches but inside your caseback that watch looks chock full of dirt and grime. Is this normal?!

Rybour · 22 June 2016, 12:28 PM

Yikes, only worn on Sundays by a little old lady. I can see the listing now haha.

GB-man · 22 June 2016, 12:30 PM

Some wd40 and a few taps with a hammer and that's good to go!

Danny83 · 22 June 2016, 12:52 PM

O wow

Rogdogg · 22 June 2016, 12:56 PM

Is there anything in particular that could cause this type of excessive wear to the rotor axle?

SearChart · 22 June 2016, 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Porter

Uuuffff! That's a crash!!
What about the balance wheel? No issues?
Sure in a few days...problem solved!!
Good luck Bas!

Fortunately no balance problems

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Joker

Just needs some WD40

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rogdogg

Is there anything in particular that could cause this type of excessive wear to the rotor axle?

Waiting too long for service, lubrication was probably long gone and the rotor axle starts to get eaten. It will eventually lead to this.

socialpro · 22 June 2016, 02:18 PM

Good luck with the repair! Def do a before and after when done.

SearChart · 22 June 2016, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by albmich

So I don't know much about servicing watches but inside your caseback that watch looks chock full of dirt and grime. Is this normal?!

That is movement dust, not normal.

All the dust came from a grinding rotor.

abrasive · 22 June 2016, 02:25 PM

A little 3-n-1 and some gauze pads...

LuminousMaximus · 22 June 2016, 02:30 PM

That really makes me want to have my Rolex serviced at the appropriate intervals...

Hairdude1 · 22 June 2016, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by LuminousMaximus

That really makes me want to have my Rolex serviced at the appropriate intervals...

Agreed!

77T · 22 June 2016, 08:10 PM

I get how the dry axle causes excessive wear and the wobble would wear out the bearing. But I couldn't see any scoring on the bridges in the pics. You mentioned the caseback was also scraped?

Is there some point where a replacement movement (even if used stock) would be better than overhaul?

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OmegaJJH · 22 June 2016, 10:54 PM

Looking forward to the finished article !

SearChart · 23 June 2016, 02:28 AM

Here's the result, working fine again

Quote:

Originally Posted by 77T

I get how the dry axle causes excessive wear and the wobble would wear out the bearing. But I couldn't see any scoring on the bridges in the pics. You mentioned the caseback was also scraped?

Is there some point where a replacement movement (even if used stock) would be better than overhaul?

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The damaged bridges are very good to see in my pictures, you can definitely see where the rhodium plating and some of the brass was scraped off.

Pretty much all movements can be overhauled, but if they are severely damaged they might need a lot of new parts. But sometimes it can be beyond repairable, for example when salt water has gotten into the movement and had enough time to do damage.

77T · 23 June 2016, 02:32 AM

Good work. I could see the grooves later - at first on iPhone it was not easy to see due to small screen. Thanks

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Porter · 23 June 2016, 05:52 AM

Yeah!! What a fantastic feeling when receiving a complete disaster and after a few hours working is like new again!!
Nice!

kilyung · 23 June 2016, 06:43 AM

Nicely done.

Palermo · 23 June 2016, 07:01 AM

Hat doffed!! That's some repair job!! Need your number!!

Loevhagen · 23 June 2016, 07:05 AM

Thanks for the thread - and photos.

What I like best is this image, clearly showing that the lugs on the crown side of the watch case is made thinner to balance the weight distribution of the watch case.

22 June 2016, 06:40 AM	#2
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22 June 2016, 11:06 AM	#12
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22 June 2016, 12:56 PM	#16
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22 June 2016, 08:10 PM	#23
77T 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Real Name: PaulG Location: Georgia Posts: 40,933	I get how the dry axle causes excessive wear and the wobble would wear out the bearing. But I couldn't see any scoring on the bridges in the pics. You mentioned the caseback was also scraped? Is there some point where a replacement movement (even if used stock) would be better than overhaul? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ Does anyone really know what time it is?

22 June 2016, 07:11 AM	#4
Porter "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2015 Real Name: Carlos Location: Eivissa Watch: Rolex, Tudor.... Posts: 1,635	Uuuffff! That's a crash!! What about the balance wheel? No issues? Sure in a few days...problem solved!! Good luck Bas!

22 June 2016, 07:47 AM	#5
FTX I "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Real Name: Flavio Location: N/A Posts: 14,654	Disturbing image..

22 June 2016, 07:52 AM	#6
Spartacus "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: DC Watch: Daytona Posts: 2,709	Can't wait to see the finished product

22 June 2016, 07:53 AM	#7
Ravager135 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: New Jersey Posts: 4,153	Yup, please deliver OP. I love these before and after photo montages.

22 June 2016, 09:43 AM	#8
AK797 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Real Name: Neil Location: UK Watch: ing ships roll in Posts: 59,289	You are going to be our make-over show expert!

22 June 2016, 09:51 AM	#9
The Joker "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Gotham Posts: 9,634	Just needs some WD40

22 June 2016, 10:06 AM	#11
watchwatcher "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Larry Location: Kentucky Watch: Yes Posts: 34,563	Ouch.

22 June 2016, 12:28 PM	#13
Rybour "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: Florida Posts: 119	Yikes, only worn on Sundays by a little old lady. I can see the listing now haha.

22 June 2016, 12:30 PM	#14
GB-man 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: USA Watch: addiction issues Posts: 36,945	Some wd40 and a few taps with a hammer and that's good to go!

22 June 2016, 12:52 PM	#15
Danny83 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Real Name: Danny Location: Bay Area CA Watch: Yellow Gold Posts: 20,188	O wow

22 June 2016, 02:18 PM	#18
socialpro "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2015 Real Name: Alex Watch: Rolex \|\| Panerai Posts: 1,348	Good luck with the repair! Def do a before and after when done.

22 June 2016, 02:25 PM	#20
abrasive "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: UT, US Posts: 118	A little 3-n-1 and some gauze pads...

22 June 2016, 10:54 PM	#24
OmegaJJH "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2013 Real Name: James Location: UK Watch: Rolex & Omega Posts: 6,667	Looking forward to the finished article !

23 June 2016, 02:32 AM	#26
77T 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Real Name: PaulG Location: Georgia Posts: 40,933	Good work. I could see the grooves later - at first on iPhone it was not easy to see due to small screen. Thanks Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ Does anyone really know what time it is?

23 June 2016, 05:52 AM	#27
Porter "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2015 Real Name: Carlos Location: Eivissa Watch: Rolex, Tudor.... Posts: 1,635	Yeah!! What a fantastic feeling when receiving a complete disaster and after a few hours working is like new again!! Nice!

23 June 2016, 06:43 AM	#28
kilyung 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Cave Watch: Sundial Posts: 33,873	Nicely done.

23 June 2016, 07:01 AM	#29
Palermo "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 215	Hat doffed!! That's some repair job!! Need your number!!

23 June 2016, 07:05 AM	#30
Loevhagen "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2014 Location: The aperture Posts: 4,934	Thanks for the thread - and photos. What I like best is this image, clearly showing that the lugs on the crown side of the watch case is made thinner to balance the weight distribution of the watch case.

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