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mrenvy · 18 July 2016, 01:08 AM

Two very different watches with travel time complication. How would you choose? I am a bit biased towards Patek and that's why I ask the question here.

de66 · 18 July 2016, 01:14 AM

In this particular case I would choose based on value retention considering both purchased new. I like both VERY much. As you said: both very different watches and very nice for very different reasons. But the 5164 is the better bet when it comes to value retention.

Peterandwatches · 18 July 2016, 01:15 AM

Split the difference and pair a 5167 with a Batman or vintage Pepsi.

GB-man · 18 July 2016, 01:25 AM

Some additional data for your consideration

http://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=368938

Quite the split decision back then. I would be pleased to own either. Good luck

mps354 · 18 July 2016, 01:39 AM

I'd go 5164

Hairdude1 · 18 July 2016, 02:28 AM

get the 5164 and add a 116710

997.2TTS · 18 July 2016, 02:49 AM

Had the same dilemma (started a similar thread as well) and went with the Patek. Less than 3 months later, it stopped running. Was told that it took another 3 months or so to get back from Patek's service department. Decided to flip it, with full discloser of course.

The experience doesn't take away from owning Pateks, as I own several without issues. However, I'm now inclined to believe that the GMT offerings from Rolex are overall a more robust watch, especially with the ceramic bezel. I will be adding a BLRO to the collection in the near future.

Hopefully you'll have better luck in your decision!

HorologyK · 18 July 2016, 03:12 AM

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Originally Posted by 997.2TTS

Had the same dilemma (started a similar thread as well) and went with the Patek. Less than 3 months later, it stopped running. Was told that it took another 3 months or so to get back from Patek's service department. Decided to flip it, with full discloser of course.

The experience doesn't take away from owning Pateks, as I own several without issues. However, I'm now inclined to believe that the GMT offerings from Rolex are overall a more robust watch, especially with the ceramic bezel. I will be adding a BLRO to the collection in the near future.

Hopefully you'll have better luck in your decision!

Stopped running after three months ?? What did Patek say was wrong with it ?

cinch · 18 July 2016, 03:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Peterandwatches

Split the difference and pair a 5167 with a Batman or vintage Pepsi.

That's what I'd do!

AK797 · 18 July 2016, 03:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Hairdude1

get the 5164 and add a 116710

Very good idea, these could be 2 SSs I end up with too.

RussW · 18 July 2016, 03:55 AM

Probably the 5164, but I do like the BLRO.

Flex368 · 18 July 2016, 04:09 AM

5164R.

daytonaTBR · 18 July 2016, 04:33 AM

I prefer the blnr to the blro so easy 5164 for me

rebel_1 · 18 July 2016, 04:41 AM

This was a hard question, but I'd pick the BLRO out of these two. Rolex is a much more robust watch IMO.

archer75 · 18 July 2016, 04:56 AM

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Originally Posted by ak797

very good idea, these could be 2 sss i end up with too.

+1

jon_jon · 18 July 2016, 05:08 AM

I am not a fan of Pepsi, Batman, etc. The 5164/1A is one of the lightest and most comfortable watches ever!

brmeyers · 18 July 2016, 05:11 AM

Having owned a WG Sub, and trying on 5167 and 5164 (finally deciding on 5167R), I would NOW recommend the 5164 especially if comfort matters.
Also 5164 has a better GMT function in my opinion.
Can't go wrong either way though.

TimeOnHand · 18 July 2016, 05:40 AM

Toony · 18 July 2016, 07:26 AM

I find the Rolex 24hr hand easier to read. Both are great. I would take the blro first in this case. But no wrong choice

psv · 18 July 2016, 07:46 AM

I know this is the PP section but I guess I'm the odd man out, I'd go with a Pepsi 116719. It just puts a smile on my face. I never had the 5164, but I did own the 5167 which was super light on the wrist but just a bit odd and scratch magnet. The Aquanauts are a bit strange - too sporty to be a dress watch and too dressy to be a sport watch...

brmeyers · 18 July 2016, 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by psv

...too sporty to be a dress watch and too dressy to be a sport watch...

One of the reasons I love it... Not like any sports watch or dress watch, yet can function as either.
Wide range of wearing opportunities, versatile, comfortable, beautiful and of course PP

brandrea · 18 July 2016, 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by TimeOnHand

beauty hard to resist that!

kilyung · 18 July 2016, 09:55 AM

I think they both have their uses. The Rolex is indestructible while the PP is classy. Pick the right tool for the job.

willski · 18 July 2016, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by kilyung

I think they both have their uses. The Rolex is indestructible while the PP is classy. Pick the right tool for the job.

Agree here.

I don't have this combo but have the BLNR and 5990.

I like the BLNR a lot but am not 100% super in love with the case; the fattened lugs are sometimes too much for me.

Having said that, the BLNR can take whatever I throw at it...

mrenvy · 18 July 2016, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Peterandwatches

Split the difference and pair a 5167 with a Batman or vintage Pepsi.

5167 is good but I've already owned a 5711. They have the same movement.

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brettpaul · 19 July 2016, 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by psv

I know this is the PP section but I guess I'm the odd man out, I'd go with a Pepsi 116719. It just puts a smile on my face. I never had the 5164, but I did own the 5167 which was super light on the wrist but just a bit odd and scratch magnet. The Aquanauts are a bit strange - too sporty to be a dress watch and too dressy to be a sport watch...

Agree with you Patrick - I had the 5167 and while it is a great watch, I found it light (I know the 5164 is heavier and has a nice complication), but with the choice I'd go for BLRO.

Reky · 19 July 2016, 05:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Hairdude1

get the 5164 and add a 116710

I second this. Why settle for 1 when you can get 2?
Get a 5164 and a BLNR, problem solved.

View Poll Results: 5164A-001 vs 116719BLRO
5164A-001	39	65.00%
116719BLRO	21	35.00%
Voters: 60. You may not vote on this poll

18 July 2016, 01:08 AM	#1
mrenvy "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Hong Kong Posts: 295	5164A-001 or 116719BLRO Two very different watches with travel time complication. How would you choose? I am a bit biased towards Patek and that's why I ask the question here.

18 July 2016, 02:28 AM	#6
Hairdude1 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Real Name: Alex Location: Chicago Watch: AP,PP, Rolex Posts: 37,156	get the 5164 and add a 116710 __________________ Instagram: @Hairdude Watches in Collection 5070R, 5522A, 214270 MK1, 228238 16750, 26401, 5711, 116718, 116710LN, 116300, 16710"Coke", 372, 15300, 15703 (All Flipped) Official Member "Perpetual 30" Las Vegas GTG 2016 Official Member "WIS-CON" Las Vegas International GTG 2017 Official Member 'WIS-CON' Las Vegas Int'l GTG 2018

18 July 2016, 04:41 AM	#14
rebel_1 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Florida Posts: 2,132	This was a hard question, but I'd pick the BLRO out of these two. Rolex is a much more robust watch IMO. __________________ Official Member: 'Perpetual 30' Vegas International GTG 2016 Official Member "WIS-CON" Las Vegas International GTG 2017

18 July 2016, 05:40 AM	#18
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18 July 2016, 01:14 AM	#2
de66 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: ZRH Posts: 1,209	In this particular case I would choose based on value retention considering both purchased new. I like both VERY much. As you said: both very different watches and very nice for very different reasons. But the 5164 is the better bet when it comes to value retention.

18 July 2016, 01:15 AM	#3
Peterandwatches "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: WA Watch: 5167/15400/Sub/JLC Posts: 1,023	Split the difference and pair a 5167 with a Batman or vintage Pepsi.

18 July 2016, 01:25 AM	#4
GB-man 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: USA Watch: addiction issues Posts: 36,938	Some additional data for your consideration http://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=368938 Quite the split decision back then. I would be pleased to own either. Good luck

18 July 2016, 01:39 AM	#5
mps354 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Real Name: Mike Location: CT Posts: 8,977	I'd go 5164

18 July 2016, 02:49 AM	#7
997.2TTS "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Real Name: Tommy Location: So Cal + Taipei Watch: Datograph up/dn RG Posts: 218	Had the same dilemma (started a similar thread as well) and went with the Patek. Less than 3 months later, it stopped running. Was told that it took another 3 months or so to get back from Patek's service department. Decided to flip it, with full discloser of course. The experience doesn't take away from owning Pateks, as I own several without issues. However, I'm now inclined to believe that the GMT offerings from Rolex are overall a more robust watch, especially with the ceramic bezel. I will be adding a BLRO to the collection in the near future. Hopefully you'll have better luck in your decision!

18 July 2016, 03:55 AM	#11
RussW "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: England Watch: 5990 Posts: 3,341	Probably the 5164, but I do like the BLRO.

18 July 2016, 04:09 AM	#12
Flex368 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2014 Real Name: Felix Location: GMT +1 Watch: Yes! Posts: 2,985	5164R.

18 July 2016, 04:33 AM	#13
daytonaTBR "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: N/A Posts: 1,466	I prefer the blnr to the blro so easy 5164 for me

18 July 2016, 05:08 AM	#16
jon_jon "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: USA Posts: 4,343	I am not a fan of Pepsi, Batman, etc. The 5164/1A is one of the lightest and most comfortable watches ever!

18 July 2016, 05:11 AM	#17
brmeyers "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2015 Real Name: Bryant Location: Florida Watch: ...Your Thoughts Posts: 2,171	Having owned a WG Sub, and trying on 5167 and 5164 (finally deciding on 5167R), I would NOW recommend the 5164 especially if comfort matters. Also 5164 has a better GMT function in my opinion. Can't go wrong either way though.

18 July 2016, 07:26 AM	#19
Toony "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Real Name: Tony Location: Gatchaman Posts: 1,873	I find the Rolex 24hr hand easier to read. Both are great. I would take the blro first in this case. But no wrong choice

18 July 2016, 07:46 AM	#20
psv "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: North America Posts: 11,066	I know this is the PP section but I guess I'm the odd man out, I'd go with a Pepsi 116719. It just puts a smile on my face. I never had the 5164, but I did own the 5167 which was super light on the wrist but just a bit odd and scratch magnet. The Aquanauts are a bit strange - too sporty to be a dress watch and too dressy to be a sport watch...

18 July 2016, 09:55 AM	#23
kilyung 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Cave Watch: Sundial Posts: 33,873	I think they both have their uses. The Rolex is indestructible while the PP is classy. Pick the right tool for the job.

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