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DeVillean · 27 October 2016, 08:52 AM

First time posting, I am interested in an Explorer II 42m Polar. But was wondering if the members here think that there is a potential that the Explorer II will go the same way as the Daytona, replacing the the steel bezel with a black ceramic one? Or is the steel one too iconic?

Have not seen this asked before, if so my apologizes...

tifosi · 27 October 2016, 09:00 AM

I understand why you are posing the question, but honestly only Rolex knows that. The Daytona had a steel bezel for quite a while and is also an icon. I don't think the EXP is above getting its bezel ceramic-a-fied, but who knows when...

ap1 · 27 October 2016, 09:05 AM

Gimme, especially in 40mm. That would be awesome. Only R knows

Dirt · 27 October 2016, 09:10 AM

Good question and one I've contemplated myself on a number of levels.

As usual only Rolex knows,
However, I believe Rolex would be in error to change the EXP II bezel from the current SS offering.
The SS is as rugged as it can possibly get with outstanding serviceability. Ceramic whilst prettier would be a liability.

tomilg · 27 October 2016, 09:21 AM

Wow, I have the 40mm Polar Exp II, and want to buy the 42 mm in black. I certainly hope they don't so to a ceramic version (or maybe I do). I love the stainless bezel.....it just adds to it's simplicity.

watchwatcher · 27 October 2016, 09:28 AM

To answer your question: probably slim to none. But, hey, anything could happen, right?

AK797 · 27 October 2016, 09:43 AM

No, not while the GMTc lives and thrives, similarly I don't think an Exp will ever receive any PM content, it will stay as is I feel.

tifosi · 27 October 2016, 10:09 AM

I don't see what the GMT has to do with the EXP.

DeVillean · 27 October 2016, 10:40 AM

i agree with the above posts, but think its a possibility, considering the ceramic is still somewhat new and the Explorer II is the only sports watch that hasn't received the upgrade of ceramic minus the yacht master ss which has precious metal only bezels... Maybe basel 2017?

pampam · 27 October 2016, 10:50 AM

I love the looks of the Expy II 42mm polar too but as of now, leave it alone because its perfect in its own rights.

japenney · 27 October 2016, 11:16 AM

Exp 2 is all brushed and meant to look like a tool watch. One of the only Rolex toolish watches left. Highly doubt they would remove this niche by putting a shiny ceramic bezel on it.

Muzz · 27 October 2016, 11:47 AM

It may look a little off? Would not feel too much like a tool watch with a ceramic bezel IMO

Flywheel · 27 October 2016, 12:19 PM

They already do. It's called the GMT Master II.

rollee1 · 27 October 2016, 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flywheel

They already do. It's called the GMT Master II.

Clever

beshannon · 27 October 2016, 09:40 PM

There is always a chance.

The real question is do you want the want now as is? Or do you want to wait?

maton12 · 28 October 2016, 10:48 AM

Think it would look great

The GMTc is a 40mm watch and Explorer 2 is 42mm, so the ceramic bezel would bulk it up a bit, which I'd like and still be different

brucethemanlee · 28 October 2016, 11:01 AM

i think unlikely but who knows

osamu · 28 October 2016, 11:59 AM

I agree that an EXII with a black ceramic bezel would be too visually similar to the GMTII. The daytona has a history of having a black bezel in the 6240, 6263, etc. and they previewed the ceramic bezel on the PM daytonas.

I just don't see Rolex changing from the SS bezel on the EXII. The only thing I kinda wish they would do would be like a hardened steel, tungsten or maybe even some composite ceramic like the Omega Grey Side of the Moon, whereas the material is improved without changing too much of the aesthetic of the traditional EXII. But Rolex has not really been known to have too much variety in case/bezel materials.

beer · 28 October 2016, 12:03 PM

pretty low if rolex has any sense

the explorer is meant to take a beating and still look good after doing so

steel bezels can be bashed 1,000 times and will show 1,000 scratches afterwards but will still be intact and able to do their job...ceramic bezels can be bashed 999 times but that 1 in 1000 "perfect" knock can destroy it...imo for the explorer the steel bezel fits the intended usage of the watch far better than a ceramic

Triple Crown · 28 October 2016, 12:45 PM

Is there another Rolex with a brushed steel bezel? I can't think of one off the top of my head. If there isn't, then I think it unlikely that Rolex will make that change. Even if there is, I think it will be years, if ever, before this change is made. Regardless, if you like the current iteration, get it. A cool watch that likely will hold its value well (as has the prior iteration of the Ex II).

Majin Buu · 28 October 2016, 01:17 PM

As a tool watch (spelunkers watch) that it is it does not makes sense (to me) to make the bezel from something "soft" as ceramic. The bezel has to be steel and "fixed position" in order for the orange hand to inform the user if it is am or pm on the "outside" world.

Cheers

Rolex fan 61 · 28 October 2016, 04:26 PM

Why????????

218225 · 28 October 2016, 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeVillean

First time posting, I am interested in an Explorer II 42m Polar. But was wondering if the members here think that there is a potential that the Explorer II will go the same way as the Daytona, replacing the the steel bezel with a black ceramic one? Or is the steel one too iconic?

Have not seen this asked before, if so my apologizes...

Why mess up the perfect under the radar watch with a ceramic bezel? I love mine without the ceramics.

padi56 · 28 October 2016, 08:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeVillean

i agree with the above posts, but think its a possibility, considering the ceramic is still somewhat new and the Explorer II is the only sports watch that hasn't received the upgrade of ceramic minus the yacht master ss which has precious metal only bezels... Maybe basel 2017?

Ceramic in watches is most certainly not something new brands like Rado have making ceramic watches since the 1960s.Yes today the so called high ends brands are now jumping on the latest ceramic fashion.Ceramic in not a wonder material yes it has its plus side but has many minus sides. Like huge cost to replace if broken like $1000 just for insert only of the ceramic pepsi insert models.

cop414 · 28 October 2016, 08:42 PM

As posted above only Rolex knows but I wouldn't bet on it.

DeVillean · 29 October 2016, 10:27 AM

i prefer how it looks now, but was just wondering if a ceramic bezel was a possibility maybe with the introduction of a new movement with longer power reserve...

Juantxo · 29 October 2016, 10:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brucethemanlee

i think unlikely but who knows

+1

Jmgiu · 29 October 2016, 07:39 PM

I own an exp II polar...my first Rolex and my everyday wear. I don't think I'd want a ceramic bezel but call me crazy I would much prefer that the bezel be polished rather than brushed. I'm on my second bezel. The cost to replace at RSC wasn't that much but...

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Jmgiu · 30 October 2016, 02:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jmgiu

I own an exp II polar...my first Rolex and my everyday wear. I don't think I'd want a ceramic bezel but call me crazy I would much prefer that the bezel be polished rather than brushed. I'm on my second bezel. The cost to replace at RSC wasn't that much but...

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Agreed

KrismanX · 30 October 2016, 02:56 AM

EXP + C = GMT

Great in theory; but I think it may be a double dip for them and uneccesary in the lineup. Someone mentioned there are no PM Explorers, and that tickled my fancy... Sure, it wouldn't be as 'rugged' just as the ceramic tilt; but heeeey I'd try one on! I'd love to see a mock-up.

27 October 2016, 08:52 AM	#1
DeVillean "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: Earth Watch: Rotation Posts: 11	What are the chances? First time posting, I am interested in an Explorer II 42m Polar. But was wondering if the members here think that there is a potential that the Explorer II will go the same way as the Daytona, replacing the the steel bezel with a black ceramic one? Or is the steel one too iconic? Have not seen this asked before, if so my apologizes...

27 October 2016, 09:00 AM	#2
tifosi "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Real Name: Russ Location: Southern NJ Posts: 5,760	I understand why you are posing the question, but honestly only Rolex knows that. The Daytona had a steel bezel for quite a while and is also an icon. I don't think the EXP is above getting its bezel ceramic-a-fied, but who knows when... __________________ Russ

27 October 2016, 10:09 AM	#8
tifosi "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Real Name: Russ Location: Southern NJ Posts: 5,760	I don't see what the GMT has to do with the EXP. __________________ Russ

27 October 2016, 09:40 PM	#15
beshannon "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Real Name: Brian Location: Northern Virginia Watch: One of Not Many Posts: 17,892	There is always a chance. The real question is do you want the want now as is? Or do you want to wait? __________________ Vacheron Constantin Traditionnelle Complete Calendar, Glashutte PanoInverse, Glashutte SeaQ Panorama Date, Omega Aqua Terra 150, Omega CK 859, Omega Speedmaster 3861 Moonwatch, Glashutte Senator Exellence, Breitling Superocean Steelfish, JLC Atmos Transparent

28 October 2016, 12:03 PM	#19
beer "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2015 Location: Watch Dealer atm! Watch: all Posts: 2,800	pretty low if rolex has any sense the explorer is meant to take a beating and still look good after doing so steel bezels can be bashed 1,000 times and will show 1,000 scratches afterwards but will still be intact and able to do their job...ceramic bezels can be bashed 999 times but that 1 in 1000 "perfect" knock can destroy it...imo for the explorer the steel bezel fits the intended usage of the watch far better than a ceramic __________________

27 October 2016, 09:05 AM	#3
ap1 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: usa Posts: 19,144	Gimme, especially in 40mm. That would be awesome. Only R knows

27 October 2016, 09:10 AM	#4
Dirt "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Brisbane Watch: DSSD Posts: 7,908	Good question and one I've contemplated myself on a number of levels. As usual only Rolex knows, However, I believe Rolex would be in error to change the EXP II bezel from the current SS offering. The SS is as rugged as it can possibly get with outstanding serviceability. Ceramic whilst prettier would be a liability.

27 October 2016, 09:21 AM	#5
tomilg "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2015 Real Name: Tom Location: Sarasota, FL Watch: 5513, SD4K Posts: 462	Wow, I have the 40mm Polar Exp II, and want to buy the 42 mm in black. I certainly hope they don't so to a ceramic version (or maybe I do). I love the stainless bezel.....it just adds to it's simplicity.

27 October 2016, 09:28 AM	#6
watchwatcher "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Larry Location: Kentucky Watch: Yes Posts: 34,569	To answer your question: probably slim to none. But, hey, anything could happen, right?

27 October 2016, 09:43 AM	#7
AK797 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Real Name: Neil Location: UK Watch: ing ships roll in Posts: 59,298	No, not while the GMTc lives and thrives, similarly I don't think an Exp will ever receive any PM content, it will stay as is I feel.

27 October 2016, 10:40 AM	#9
DeVillean "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: Earth Watch: Rotation Posts: 11	i agree with the above posts, but think its a possibility, considering the ceramic is still somewhat new and the Explorer II is the only sports watch that hasn't received the upgrade of ceramic minus the yacht master ss which has precious metal only bezels... Maybe basel 2017?

27 October 2016, 10:50 AM	#10
pampam "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: NYC Posts: 179	I love the looks of the Expy II 42mm polar too but as of now, leave it alone because its perfect in its own rights.

27 October 2016, 11:16 AM	#11
japenney "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Real Name: Josh Location: Canada Watch: undecided Posts: 4,777	Exp 2 is all brushed and meant to look like a tool watch. One of the only Rolex toolish watches left. Highly doubt they would remove this niche by putting a shiny ceramic bezel on it.

27 October 2016, 11:47 AM	#12
Muzz "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Real Name: Steve Location: TO CAD, HCMC VN Watch: MP 18946 Posts: 7,292	It may look a little off? Would not feel too much like a tool watch with a ceramic bezel IMO

27 October 2016, 12:19 PM	#13
Flywheel "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Cleveland Posts: 628	They already do. It's called the GMT Master II.

28 October 2016, 10:48 AM	#16
maton12 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: Sydney Posts: 400	Think it would look great The GMTc is a 40mm watch and Explorer 2 is 42mm, so the ceramic bezel would bulk it up a bit, which I'd like and still be different

28 October 2016, 11:01 AM	#17
brucethemanlee "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: 1 of 13 Colonies Posts: 8,505	i think unlikely but who knows

28 October 2016, 11:59 AM	#18
osamu "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: Honolulu Posts: 1,322	I agree that an EXII with a black ceramic bezel would be too visually similar to the GMTII. The daytona has a history of having a black bezel in the 6240, 6263, etc. and they previewed the ceramic bezel on the PM daytonas. I just don't see Rolex changing from the SS bezel on the EXII. The only thing I kinda wish they would do would be like a hardened steel, tungsten or maybe even some composite ceramic like the Omega Grey Side of the Moon, whereas the material is improved without changing too much of the aesthetic of the traditional EXII. But Rolex has not really been known to have too much variety in case/bezel materials.

28 October 2016, 12:45 PM	#20
Triple Crown Banned Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 130	Is there another Rolex with a brushed steel bezel? I can't think of one off the top of my head. If there isn't, then I think it unlikely that Rolex will make that change. Even if there is, I think it will be years, if ever, before this change is made. Regardless, if you like the current iteration, get it. A cool watch that likely will hold its value well (as has the prior iteration of the Ex II).

28 October 2016, 01:17 PM	#21
Majin Buu "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Real Name: Joe Location: Planet Earth Watch: Datejust now Posts: 921	As a tool watch (spelunkers watch) that it is it does not makes sense (to me) to make the bezel from something "soft" as ceramic. The bezel has to be steel and "fixed position" in order for the orange hand to inform the user if it is am or pm on the "outside" world. Cheers

28 October 2016, 04:26 PM	#22
Rolex fan 61 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: UK Posts: 1,262	Why????????

28 October 2016, 08:42 PM	#25
cop414 TRF Moderator & 2024 DATE-JUST41 Patron Join Date: Apr 2012 Real Name: Tim Location: Pennsylvania Watch: 14060M Posts: 71,861	As posted above only Rolex knows but I wouldn't bet on it. __________________ Rolex Submariner 14060M Omega Seamaster 2254.50 DOXA Professional 1200T Card carrying member of TRF's Global Association of Retro-Grouch-Curmudgeons TRF's "After Dark" Bar & NightClub Patron P Club Member #17 2 FA ENABLED

29 October 2016, 10:27 AM	#26
DeVillean "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: Earth Watch: Rotation Posts: 11	i prefer how it looks now, but was just wondering if a ceramic bezel was a possibility maybe with the introduction of a new movement with longer power reserve...

29 October 2016, 07:39 PM	#28
Jmgiu "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2016 Real Name: John G Location: NY Watch: 96 sub 14060 Posts: 69	I own an exp II polar...my first Rolex and my everyday wear. I don't think I'd want a ceramic bezel but call me crazy I would much prefer that the bezel be polished rather than brushed. I'm on my second bezel. The cost to replace at RSC wasn't that much but... Sent from my Z958 using Tapatalk

30 October 2016, 02:56 AM	#30
KrismanX "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2014 Real Name: Kristofer Location: Los Angeles, CA Watch: my feet. Posts: 2,364	EXP + C = GMT Great in theory; but I think it may be a double dip for them and uneccesary in the lineup. Someone mentioned there are no PM Explorers, and that tickled my fancy... Sure, it wouldn't be as 'rugged' just as the ceramic tilt; but heeeey I'd try one on! I'd love to see a mock-up.

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