Need advice on Day-Date 40 purchase!

[BGTHEMOGUL]

I'm ready to buy a rose gold Day-date 40 and I'm trying to decide between two dials and I could use your opinions.

I'm between the chocolate baguette diamond dial and the olive dial.

Assuming you liked both of them equally which one would you go with?

Do you think one has the potential to hold its value better or even possibly appreciate more than the other?

Thanks in advance!

[fskywalker]

Olive


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[huncho]

are you going grey or AD?

[peterpl]

I used to have both (although not the chocolate baguette but romans)

The green is beautiful but it got tiresome to me after several months. I'm not a green fan honestly so I flipped it.

They both hold value good. Green is super super hyped now so its currently selling for more than the Chocolate but the Choco is a close second in terms of hype.

Pick whichever one. You will love both.

[BGTHEMOGUL]

Originally Posted by fskywalker

Olive


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That's what I was originally thinking as well but since it has a retail price of $39k and they're currently selling for $55-60k I started thinking maybe they're already at a peak premium. The chocolate baguette dial has a retail price around $43k and they can be bought right now for $50-55k so it seems like a better buy since it has less of a mark up over retail.

[BGTHEMOGUL]

Originally Posted by huncho

are you going grey or AD?

I wish I could find one at an AD unfortunately it will be secondary market.

[BGTHEMOGUL]

Originally Posted by peterpl

I used to have both (although not the chocolate baguette but romans)

The green is beautiful but it got tiresome to me after several months. I'm not a green fan honestly so I flipped it.

They both hold value good. Green is super super hyped now so its currently selling for more than the Chocolate but the Choco is a close second in terms of hype.

Pick whichever one. You will love both.

Yeah that's my dilemma the olive is a $39k retail piece but they're currently selling for $55-60k. The chocolate baguette is a $43k piece and they're going for $50-55k so it seems like more watch for the money. I fear the olive dial might already be priced at a peak premium.

[huncho]

Originally Posted by BGTHEMOGUL

I wish I could find one at an AD unfortunately it will be secondary market.

you might actually be able to get the chocolate through an AD, at least it's worth a try. but if it's grey then yes it makes more sense financially to get the chocolate, but it's really up to which one you prefer. i feel like both are definitely worth their respective premiums, especially once you factor in taxes and keep in mind the olive might get discontinued eventually as it's an anniversary model

[sond86]

I like the olive but I’m biased as green is my favorite and birthstone color

[fskywalker]

Originally Posted by BGTHEMOGUL

That's what I was originally thinking as well but since it has a retail price of $39k and they're currently selling for $55-60k I started thinking maybe they're already at a peak premium. The chocolate baguette dial has a retail price around $43k and they can be bought right now for $50-55k so it seems like a better buy since it has less of a mark up over retail.

Friend bought a new WG DD40 from grey with rhodium dial and sent it to RSC for a dial swap to olive green, paid for swap like $700. Saved like $2k versus WG with olive dial.

Point is dials can be swapped, better to look for best deal on the watch regardless of dial


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[BGTHEMOGUL]

Originally Posted by huncho

you might actually be able to get the chocolate through an AD, at least it's worth a try. but if it's grey then yes it makes more sense financially to get the chocolate, but it's really up to which one you prefer. i feel like both are definitely worth their respective premiums, especially once you factor in taxes and keep in mind the olive might get discontinued eventually as it's an anniversary model

I've tried 4 different AD's and none have any inventory all the cases are literally empty. The only watch 1 of them had was a yellow gold Day-Date 40 with the white roman dial. Have any ideas how I might be able to source one at an AD?

[BGTHEMOGUL]

Originally Posted by sond86

I like the olive but I’m biased as green is my favorite and birthstone color

I like it too just trying to decide which makes more sense financially!

[huncho]

Originally Posted by BGTHEMOGUL

I've tried 4 different AD's and none have any inventory all the cases are literally empty. The only watch 1 of them had was a yellow gold Day-Date 40 with the white roman dial. Have any ideas how I might be able to source one at an AD?

they won't be in cases but you'd have to put in your interest and maybe wait 6-12 months. worth a shot imo though

[BGTHEMOGUL]

Originally Posted by fskywalker

Friend bought a new WG DD40 from grey with rhodium dial and sent it to RSC for a dial swap to olive green, paid for swap like $700. Saved like $2k versus WG with olive dial.

Point is dials can be swapped, better to look for best deal on the watch regardless of dial


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Then it's technically not "factory original" anymore if you do a dial swap right?

[BGTHEMOGUL]

Originally Posted by huncho

they won't be in cases but you'd have to put in your interest and maybe wait 6-12 months. worth a shot imo though

Yeah that's what I was afraid of and who knows if they'll ever call with one. You could wait 6-12 months and likely never hear from them. That's why I'm looking on the secondary market. If I could just walk in an AD and buy one that would be another story. Wishful thinking! Lol

[peterpl]

Originally Posted by BGTHEMOGUL

Then it's technically not "factory original" anymore if you do a dial swap right?

Thats not correct. The reference number is exactly the same so it still factory. Thats the ONLY reason why Rolex lets you do it.

I heard they will allow most ppl to do it at service time. There were too many ppl buying the white dial or something and asking for them to be swapped to the Olive or Chocolate in order to flip but they caught onto that.

So I think now if you'd had it for like 3+ years and you want to do it they will allow it.

A brand new one? I dont think so.

[BGTHEMOGUL]

Originally Posted by peterpl

Thats not correct. The reference number is exactly the same so it still factory. Thats the ONLY reason why Rolex lets you do it.

I heard they will allow most ppl to do it at service time. There were too many ppl buying the white dial or something and asking for them to be swapped to the Olive or Chocolate in order to flip but they caught onto that.

So I think now if you'd had it for like 3+ years and you want to do it they will allow it.

A brand new one? I dont think so.

Thanks for the info. Is there a way to know for sure? Could I simply call them and ask? I wouldn't want to be "stuck" with a dial I don't like until it's time for a service to change it so I'd like to know if it's possible to change right away upon purchase. Otherwise it's not worth the gamble.

[peterpl]

Originally Posted by BGTHEMOGUL

Thanks for the info. Is there a way to know for sure? Could I simply call them and ask? I wouldn't want to be "stuck" with a dial I don't like until it's time for a service to change it so I'd like to know if it's possible to change right away upon purchase. Otherwise it's not worth the gamble.

Like I said a dial swap straight away most likely 99% they will not allow. They can see exactly on their database when the watch was swiped and warranty started.

They dont want 1000s of ppl going in and asking for Olive or Choco dials and selling their watches for another $10k+ each profit on the gray market.

I know they will allow to swap on older pieces. I know 4 guys in my watch club who already swapped for Olive or Choco dials coming from other dials but they had their DD40s since 2016 when they came out and its now around 5 years service time.

[BGTHEMOGUL]

Originally Posted by peterpl

Like I said a dial swap straight away most likely 99% they will not allow. They can see exactly on their database when the watch was swiped and warranty started.

They dont want 1000s of ppl going in and asking for Olive or Choco dials and selling their watches for another $10k+ each profit on the gray market.

Understood but I think it's still worth a shot to call and ask on Monday. I'll say someone bought it as a gift for me and they got the wrong dial. Worst they can say is no.

[huncho]

Originally Posted by BGTHEMOGUL

Thanks for the info. Is there a way to know for sure? Could I simply call them and ask? I wouldn't want to be "stuck" with a dial I don't like until it's time for a service to change it so I'd like to know if it's possible to change right away upon purchase. Otherwise it's not worth the gamble.

most likely not gonna allow you to swap to an olive if you just bought a brand new one in another dial. certain dials are on their do not swap list such as the blue skydweller and green dial daytona

[BGTHEMOGUL]

Originally Posted by peterpl

Like I said a dial swap straight away most likely 99% they will not allow. They can see exactly on their database when the watch was swiped and warranty started.

They dont want 1000s of ppl going in and asking for Olive or Choco dials and selling their watches for another $10k+ each profit on the gray market.

I know they will allow to swap on older pieces. I know 4 guys in my watch club who already swapped for Olive or Choco dials coming from other dials but they had their DD40s since 2016 when they came out and its now around 5 years service time.

I guess I could always buy one on the secondary market that's a few years old if they say they can't do a swap on a brand new one but they could after "x" amount of time.

[BGTHEMOGUL]

Originally Posted by huncho

most likely not gonna allow you to swap to an olive if you just bought a brand new one in another dial. certain dials are on their do not swap list such as the blue skydweller and green dial daytona

What if I bought on the secondary market and it's a few years old?

[peterpl]

Originally Posted by BGTHEMOGUL

I guess I could always buy one on the secondary market that's a few years old if they say they can't do a swap on a brand new one but they could after "x" amount of time.

Not sure thats going to be economical for you. An older piece your still going to pay premium for it. Plus for the swap your going to also pay for service + replacement parts + dial itself + hands depending. But yeah ask them.

I'm not sure on the time frame. A buddy told me RSC advised 3 years but that might be 5. LOL

[BGTHEMOGUL]

Originally Posted by peterpl

Not sure thats going to be economical for you. An older piece your still going to pay premium for it. Plus for the swap your going to also pay for service + replacement parts + dial itself + hands depending. But yeah ask them.

I'm not sure on the time frame. A buddy told me RSC advised 3 years but that might be 5. LOL

I'll definitely check on it and see what they say. Thanks!

[JodyHighroller]

To answer your question, I’d wager the green olive holding value better in the long run because it has a story behind the dial (anniversary model) vs the chocolate baguette.

Regarding dial swaps, I wouldn’t open up a brand new watch. It creates a lot of room for error during the dial swap and just isn’t worth it IMO. Kinda like buying a car off the lot in the color you don’t want and re-spraying/wrapping it. Just hold out for what you really want.

Every RSC has different policies especially in the international context, some may allow dial swaps sooner during ownership than others. I’d phone and inquire with NYC and Dallas before pulling the trigger.

[BGTHEMOGUL]

Originally Posted by JodyHighroller

To answer your question, I’d wager the green olive holding value better in the long run because it has a story behind the dial (anniversary model) vs the chocolate baguette.

Regarding dial swaps, I wouldn’t open up a brand new watch. It creates a lot of room for error during the dial swap and just isn’t worth it IMO. Kinda like buying a car off the lot in the color you don’t want and re-spraying/wrapping it. Just hold out for what you really want.

Every RSC has different policies especially in the international context, some may allow dial swaps sooner during ownership than others. I’d phone and inquire with NYC and Dallas before pulling the trigger.

Thanks for the feedback and I agree with you on the dial swap. I'd prefer not to do it unless it was really worth the time and effort. Regarding the olive dial I also share the same thoughts being that it's an anniversary model I just fear the premium is already built in at these current prices and the baguette dial gets you more watch for less money.

[fskywalker]

Originally Posted by peterpl

Like I said a dial swap straight away most likely 99% they will not allow. They can see exactly on their database when the watch was swiped and warranty started.

They dont want 1000s of ppl going in and asking for Olive or Choco dials and selling their watches for another $10k+ each profit on the gray market.

I know they will allow to swap on older pieces. I know 4 guys in my watch club who already swapped for Olive or Choco dials coming from other dials but they had their DD40s since 2016 when they came out and its now around 5 years service time.

My friend did it about 2 months ago through RSC Dallas. He called and they confirm could be done, pretty straight foward and no service required.

I know there are some restrictions on dials (like the green anniversary dial on the YG Daytona) but not on this one at least until recently.


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[Benzsiam]

Both of them are beautiful timepieces. I would preferred Olive dial at ADs/Boutiques but Chocolate with baguettes at grey.

[Rado63]

You seem to have a two part question , Do you prefer brown or green dial? which will hold value over time? It is impossible to answer because the green dial 228235 was on the secondary market for 27K when it fist arrived. Then 28K then more internet talk, vlogs, blogs and now we are at a low price in the US $55K and see a high ask $62K in the US. What made the watch so desirable. Wanting something that everyone can't get. The watch is nice as it is in either dial. Since asked what dial color we liked, I would put green over Brown, and I also like the Sundust dial.

[Aplover5]

Love the chocolate dial. Have one ordered AD said 9 months.