2023 Daytona 126500 is not 40 mm

[technik1]

Hi all. Apparently, despite the metal bezel ring, it looks like we have the same 38.5 mm we’ve had since 1988 and again in 2000. I say 38.5 because it appears the caliper arm at 3:00 has small gap.

I’m sure we’ll see more precise measurements with a digital caliper. Yes the case is slightly wider ala the outgoing PM cases and should wear slightly larger. However, at best it’s 39mm.

[JSolution]

I like the lugs.. not so much the bezel.

[technik1]

More case dimensions:

46mm overall height
43 mm overall width
20mm bracelet as before

[cornerstore]

I don’t think Rolex measures their cases that way. My understanding is they measure at 8 and 2 or 10 and 20.

[Seo]

From what I can tell it’s very similar to the the symmetrical lug case of the previous Gen seen in wg pt and rg. That watch case was just under 40.

On change though is how the bracelet fits with the lugs. You will notice the bracelet didn’t sit flush with the 1165xx symmetrical lug version. This update does.

[ctzn]

Originally Posted by Seo

From what I can tell it’s very similar to the the symmetrical lug case of the previous Gen seen in wg pt and rg. That watch case was just under 40.

On change though is how the bracelet fits with the lugs. You will notice the bracelet didn’t sit flush with the 1165xx symmetrical lug version. This update does.

That was my feeling of it on the wrist in Geneva. I had my 116509 on the other wrist and the footprint felt exactly the same, as the lug profile is now the same across the board. I haven't owned a steel Daytona in quite some time, but from what I recall it wore slightly smaller than PM references. I think that distinction is now gone (apart from the weight, at least).

[Ny325]

I was never a fan of the Daytona. Bezel, and dial too busy for me.

[Solo118]

At the very least, the steel model should wear like a PM model.... and from experience I can say the PM's wear slightly larger than steel.

I know everybody did not expect a major change, but if you get an extra .5-1mm out of it, the larger wristed Daytona fans should be happy, and the usual Daytona wearer will not feel too out of place with this new reference.

[huncho]

Originally Posted by Solo118

At the very least, the steel model should wear like a PM model.... and from experience I can say the PM's wear slightly larger than steel.

I know everybody did not expect a major change, but if you get an extra .5-1mm out of it, the larger wristed Daytona fans should be happy, and the usual Daytona wearer will not feel too out of place with this new reference.

the YG models wore like the steel models

[Mystro]

I thought most of use knew the size didn’t change by how Rolex described the 12 Series Daytona. By Rolex marketing, Rolex would have advertised a Daytona 41 mm if they changed it any way bigger.

[Devildog]

Originally Posted by technik1

Hi all. Apparently, despite the metal bezel ring, it looks like we have the same 38.5 mm we’ve had since 1988 and again in 2000. I say 38.5 because it appears the caliper arm at 3:00 has small gap.

I’m sure we’ll see more precise measurements with a digital caliper. Yes the case is slightly wider ala the outgoing PM cases and should wear slightly larger. However, at best it’s 39mm.

Thats a measure of the bezel. Not the case

My bezel measures 38.5 and my. case 39.8. Its a 509

[Boaters]

To small

[rmlovett1]

Originally Posted by Mystro

I thought most of use knew the size didn’t change by how Rolex described the 12 Series Daytona. By Rolex marketing, Rolex would have advertised a Daytona 41 mm if they changed it any way bigger.

Exactly!

Originally Posted by Devildog

Thats a measure of the bezel. Not the case

My bezel measures 38.5 and my. case 39.8. Its a 509

Same on 519

[928ktgold]

Originally Posted by Seo

From what I can tell it’s very similar to the the symmetrical lug case of the previous Gen seen in wg pt and rg. That watch case was just under 40.

On change though is how the bracelet fits with the lugs. You will notice the bracelet didn’t sit flush with the 1165xx symmetrical lug version. This update does.

The bracelet was always flush on the 116500ln but not on the White gold, Rose gold or platinum models. Now with the 126xxx models they are all flush

[mykii]

Originally Posted by Ny325

I was never a fan of the Daytona. Bezel, and dial too busy for me.

Same, but I never imagined Rolex could make it worse. The bezel and subdials look awful.

[Frank McKay]

It’s a bigger watch, closer to 40-41mm.


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[60sec]

So what is the bezel measurement of a 116500?


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[Tensai]

The new 12 series Daytona is a clunker.

[Devildog]

Originally Posted by 60sec

So what is the bezel measurement of a 116500?


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38.5 - the same size.

[Manamana]

Originally Posted by Tensai

The new 12 series Daytona is a clunker.

Agree, it's updated movement, and bigger which is ok, but everytime I see pictures it doesn't look as good as the old 116500. The new black may be better looking. I don't hate it, it's a steel Daytona after all, but there is something wrong with the new white look I can't put my hands on. Maybe in real life it's better.

[1William]

Interesting, not enough difference for me in the size to make a difference. The metal ring around the bezel is an addition I have not decided on yet.

[rolexgs]

Originally Posted by Manamana

Agree, it's updated movement, and bigger which is ok, but everytime I see pictures it doesn't look as good as the old 116500. The new black may be better looking. I don't hate it, it's a steel Daytona after all, but there is something wrong with the new white look I can't put my hands on. Maybe in real life it's better.

to me, adding the metal ring makes the new panda looks less bold and dressier.
the discontinued panda is bolder and sportier.

[PenDelicate]

Originally Posted by rolexgs

to me, adding the metal ring makes the new panda looks less bold and dressier.
the discontinued panda is bolder and sportier.

Interesting, I think opposite: that the new metal rim makes the watch look more like a tool-watch. Probably because the bezel as a whole is now a composite (ceramic + steel), whereas before it was non-composite (all ceramic). And in my mind elegance degrades with composition: the more "things" make up a whole, the less the whole is elegant.

Oh, to be a fly on the wall in Rolex when they made these decisions.

[rolexgs]

Originally Posted by PenDelicate

Interesting, I think opposite: that the new metal rim makes the watch look more like a tool-watch. Probably because the bezel as a whole is now a composite (ceramic + steel), whereas before it was non-composite (all ceramic). And in my mind elegance degrades with composition: the more "things" make up a whole, the less the whole is elegant.

Oh, to be a fly on the wall in Rolex when they made these decisions.

exactly the opposite! the steel ring bezel now fuse with the case, more like a unibody design. while the previous panda ceramic bezel were equipped on top of the steel case, like gear up, thus looks sportier.

[Fleetlord]

39.88mm is what a YouTuber was told by Rolex @ W&W

[amh]

I'll probably never be able to fondle one let alone buy one (Apparently too valuable to be an 'exhibition piece' to allow fingerprints from the unwashed masses)

[DC116710LN]

Interesting, thanks for sharing. I'll be interested to see the 116500 and 126500 in side by side comparisons

[Devildog]

Originally Posted by rolexgs

exactly the opposite! the steel ring bezel now fuse with the case, more like a unibody design. while the previous panda ceramic bezel were equipped on top of the steel case, like gear up, thus looks sportier.

The steel ring bezel is still a bezel. Its not fused with the case.

Its a separate metal part with a ceramic insert, rather than being a separate ceramic only part.

[rolexgs]

Originally Posted by Devildog

The steel ring bezel is still a bezel. Its not fused with the case.

Its a separate metal part with a ceramic insert, rather than being a separate ceramic only part.

i mean visually, while the old panda ceramic is equipped on top the stainless steel case, like a motorbike rider wearing a helmet.

[brandrea]

Calipers folks, we need calipers

…. Oh, and the watch