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Jhamsburg · 28 June 2019, 10:00 PM

Hi guys,

Ever since the price increase announced on June 1st, I noticed a downwards price trend for the ever-speculated Nautilus and Aquanaut lines. However, there still seems to be a demand and the waitlists have not gotten shorter.

As of recently, Patek price increases have been a guessing game for most. Please correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe it to be as follows:

August 2016 - 10% All Models

September 2017 - 5.5% All Models

March 2018 - 20% for just the 5711/1A and 5712/1A

June 2019 - 4% All Models

As for grey market prices, there has been a significant increase from December 2018 to May 2019 (For example, the 5712/1A jumped from a little under $50,000 to the $80,000 or so today).

Can anyone care to elaborate on the current grey market prices and if they have softened? Is this the bubble everyone's been waiting for or just a speedbump due to the economy that will recover over time?

Thanks.

** Again, I apologize if any information is incorrect or misleading. Please do correct any of the above you believe to be inaccurate!

sdh1980 · 29 June 2019, 01:33 AM

Keep going up and up in the UK..... Aquanaut seems to be going up weekly too

brockburst · 29 June 2019, 01:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jhamsburg

Hi guys,

Ever since the price increase announced on June 1st, I noticed a downwards price trend for the ever-speculated Nautilus and Aquanaut lines. However, there still seems to be a demand and the waitlists have not gotten shorter.

As of recently, Patek price increases have been a guessing game for most. Please correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe it to be as follows:

August 2016 - 10% All Models

September 2017 - 5.5% All Models

March 2018 - 20% for just the 5711/1A and 5712/1A

June 2019 - 4% All Models

As for grey market prices, there has been a significant increase from December 2018 to May 2019 (For example, the 5712/1A jumped from a little under $50,000 to the $80,000 or so today).

Can anyone care to elaborate on the current grey market prices and if they have softened? Is this the bubble everyone's been waiting for or just a speedbump due to the economy that will recover over time?

Thanks.

** Again, I apologize if any information is incorrect or misleading. Please do correct any of the above you believe to be inaccurate!

Not sure what you have noticed, but I certainly haven't seen any softening of secondary market prices, there hasn't been a single downtick at all...

Rushne · 29 June 2019, 01:57 AM

Haven't noticed a downtick at all.

Aquaman · 29 June 2019, 02:06 AM

GB-man · 29 June 2019, 02:07 AM

I don't think so yet. When you can sell a 5711 and buy a porsche something is truly wrong.

Rushne · 29 June 2019, 02:13 AM

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Originally Posted by GB-man

I don't think so yet. When you can sell a 5711 and buy a porsche something is truly wrong.

It's completely insane. I just want to enjoy some nice watches. Instead.... so many unobtainable at retail.

sdh1980 · 29 June 2019, 02:38 AM

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Originally Posted by GB-man

I don't think so yet. When you can sell a 5711 and buy a porsche something is truly wrong.

I was having this exact conversation today.....It's very very tempting

s.m.b. · 29 June 2019, 03:38 AM

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Originally Posted by GB-man

I don't think so yet. When you can sell a 5711 and buy a porsche something is truly wrong.

Truly, truly wrong.

SL BRABUS · 29 June 2019, 04:22 AM

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Originally Posted by GB-man

I don't think so yet. When you can sell a 5711 and buy a porsche something is truly wrong.

.....

....As right now if you were to sell the 5711 you could buy a brand new 718, or Macan, and or Cayenne....

OR

preowned 911 or Panamera....

Swearengen · 29 June 2019, 04:26 AM

I sold my 986 to buy my 5712 about four years ago

Quote:

Originally Posted by GB-man

I don't think so yet. When you can sell a 5711 and buy a porsche something is truly wrong.

Aquaman · 29 June 2019, 04:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Swearengen

I sold my 986 to buy my 5712 about four years ago

good move

s.m.b. · 29 June 2019, 04:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Aquaman

good move

Definitely!

Humble michael · 29 June 2019, 05:13 AM

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Originally Posted by GB-man

I don't think so yet. When you can sell a 5711 and buy a porsche something is truly wrong.

Nope, something is truly great imo. Just makes collecting more fun!Ha!

Aquaman · 29 June 2019, 05:19 AM

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Originally Posted by james272

Nope, something is truly great imo. Just makes collecting more fun!Ha!

Says the man who's sitting on a fortune with a retail 5711r

Enjoy

racer24 · 29 June 2019, 06:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GB-man

I don't think so yet. When you can sell a 5711 and buy a porsche something is truly wrong.

some of the Nautilus references are already at Ferrari level

soundserious · 29 June 2019, 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by GB-man

I don't think so yet. When you can sell a 5711 and buy a porsche something is truly wrong.

Own both, if I had to pick the car would be gone. But, and this is important, the people that own these cars or own these watches don’t have to pick.

superstarmar · 30 June 2019, 01:13 AM

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Originally Posted by GB-man

I don't think so yet. When you can sell a 5711 and buy a porsche something is truly wrong.

I agree . Madness has overtaken the people by storm.

Fat_ninja · 30 June 2019, 01:14 AM

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Originally Posted by superstarmar

I agree . Madness has overtaken the people by storm.

Quote:

Originally Posted by GB-man

I don't think so yet. When you can sell a 5711 and buy a porsche something is truly wrong.

But the new 911 has 4 cylinders... it’s like a dolled up VW these days...

superstarmar · 30 June 2019, 01:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat_ninja

But the new 911 has 4 cylinders... it’s like a dolled up VW these days...

s.m.b. · 30 June 2019, 01:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat_ninja

But the new 911 has 4 cylinders... it’s like a dolled up VW these days...

Ha. Clearly, you haven't experienced one.

GB-man · 30 June 2019, 01:34 AM

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Originally Posted by soundserious

Own both, if I had to pick the car would be gone. But, and this is important, the people that own these cars or own these watches don’t have to pick.

I have had 911s as well I was more saying that the products to me are not of comparable value. I thought the 5711 was a stretch at 23k when I bought mine. I thought my 911 was an absolute steal at 100k.

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Originally Posted by nyc2la

Makes sense. And we really never are done... there always is another watch.

Yes the sickness does not simply leave you

Commonproject · 1 July 2019, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat_ninja

But the new 911 has 4 cylinders... it’s like a dolled up VW these days...

sound like you know nothing about 911s...cause they're definitely not 4 cylinders

GreenLantern · 1 July 2019, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Commonproject

sound like you know nothing about 911s...cause they're definitely not 4 cylinders

Tay821 · 29 June 2019, 02:47 AM

DSW listed a 5711 at ~75k this week. Bubble not bursting yet

Bearxj86 · 29 June 2019, 02:53 AM

Danny Govberg from Watchbox/Govberg predicts $100k by end of summer for 5711 blue

SL BRABUS · 29 June 2019, 03:14 AM

As other mention the Aquanaut and Nautilus is at all time high after the Patek price increases this year.....

I check here in the TRF forum, none of our well known trusted dealer here in the USA have one for sale...

Oh, wait..... DavidSW have two 5711 for sale..... one at $70K and the other one at $75K...... They're at all time high......

Calatrava r · 29 June 2019, 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by bearxj86

Danny Govberg from Watchbox/Govberg predicts $100k by end of summer for 5711 blue

...and 200k by the spring.

Fat_ninja · 29 June 2019, 11:32 PM

I need to really go buy a 11 for myself. Don’t want to miss out ;)

s.m.b. · 29 June 2019, 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by bearxj86

Danny Govberg from Watchbox/Govberg predicts $100k by end of summer for 5711 blue

That'll be something...

28 June 2019, 10:00 PM	#1
Jhamsburg "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Real Name: JH. Location: CA Watch: 5980/1A 5990/1A Posts: 3	Has the Nautilus bubble... dare I say it... slowed down? Hi guys, Ever since the price increase announced on June 1st, I noticed a downwards price trend for the ever-speculated Nautilus and Aquanaut lines. However, there still seems to be a demand and the waitlists have not gotten shorter. As of recently, Patek price increases have been a guessing game for most. Please correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe it to be as follows: August 2016 - 10% All Models September 2017 - 5.5% All Models March 2018 - 20% for just the 5711/1A and 5712/1A June 2019 - 4% All Models As for grey market prices, there has been a significant increase from December 2018 to May 2019 (For example, the 5712/1A jumped from a little under $50,000 to the $80,000 or so today). Can anyone care to elaborate on the current grey market prices and if they have softened? Is this the bubble everyone's been waiting for or just a speedbump due to the economy that will recover over time? Thanks. ** Again, I apologize if any information is incorrect or misleading. Please do correct any of the above you believe to be inaccurate!

29 June 2019, 01:33 AM	#2
sdh1980 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: London Watch: 116500 LN Posts: 361	Keep going up and up in the UK..... Aquanaut seems to be going up weekly too __________________ Instagram - SDH1980

29 June 2019, 01:57 AM	#4
Rushne 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Stockholm, Sweden Watch: White 116500LN Posts: 864	Haven't noticed a downtick at all. __________________ Omega: Seamaster Professional 300M 2220.80.00 Rolex: Daytona White Dial 116500LN Rolex: Sky-Dweller Blue Dial Jubilee 336934 Rolex: DateJust 36 Roman White Dial Oyster 126234 Rolex: OP 36 Celebration Dial 126000 Panerai: PAM 422 Patek Philippe: Aquanaut 5167A A. Lange & Söhne: 1815 Annual Calendar @mechanicaltom Stolen: IWC Portuguese 500107 Case number 3853222

29 June 2019, 02:07 AM	#6
GB-man 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: USA Watch: addiction issues Posts: 36,977	I don't think so yet. When you can sell a 5711 and buy a porsche something is truly wrong. __________________

29 June 2019, 03:14 AM	#27
SL BRABUS "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: U.S.A Watch: Only Rolex & Patek Posts: 3,350	As other mention the Aquanaut and Nautilus is at all time high after the Patek price increases this year..... I check here in the TRF forum, none of our well known trusted dealer here in the USA have one for sale... Oh, wait..... DavidSW have two 5711 for sale..... one at $70K and the other one at $75K...... They're at all time high...... __________________ Rolex Forum: Mainly Rolex & Benz pictures...!!! Click the above link to join the club...^^^... "SL BRABUS" aka BenzWorld Undercover Moderator

29 June 2019, 02:06 AM	#5
Aquaman Banned Join Date: Jun 2019 Location: All around Posts: 600

29 June 2019, 02:47 AM	#25
Tay821 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: USA Posts: 913	DSW listed a 5711 at ~75k this week. Bubble not bursting yet

29 June 2019, 02:53 AM	#26
Bearxj86 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: Los Angeles Watch: 3970 Posts: 3,812	Danny Govberg from Watchbox/Govberg predicts $100k by end of summer for 5711 blue

29 June 2019, 11:32 PM	#29
Fat_ninja Banned Join Date: May 2018 Real Name: Jonathan Location: USA Watch: P-01 Posts: 11,772	I need to really go buy a 11 for myself. Don’t want to miss out ;)

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