Nautilus Starting to lose it's luster?

[Bmw1]

Hello fellow members
I am actually starting to think that the prices on these is actually pretty nuts, and I really don't think it's justified what so ever, this watch is so so over priced and after sometime with it I think people are crazy now a days paying 60-70k for this piece or any Nautilus for that matter.
What do you guys think? Do you think the Nautilus market will soften in the near future?
I think these will drop to 25-35k in the near future which is a fair price for this watch
All inputs are appreciated.
Thank you.

[soxfan39]

following. Been wanting to buy one, but obviously hesitant to pay up 2x+ in grey market. What are my chances getting one on the waiting list at my local AD?

[Bmw1]

Originally Posted by soxfan39

following. Been wanting to buy one, but obviously hesitant to pay up 2x+ in grey market. What are my chances getting one on the waiting list at my local AD?

Pretty much impossible.
I bought mine at the end of 2013 after 6 month from getting my name on the waiting list.


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[Waiteu2]

If you can afford a Nautilus but cant spell lose.

[Bmw1]

Originally Posted by Waiteu2

If you can afford a Nautilus but cant spell lose.

English is not my first language just to let you know.


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[ts3]

Originally Posted by Waiteu2

If you can afford a Nautilus but cant spell lose.

[Calatrava r]

Originally Posted by Waiteu2

If you can afford a Nautilus but cant spell lose.

Sorry, but I have no idea what you are saying. How does one spell lose?

[Swearengen]

The way I look at it is those who want to buy wish the price would fall, those who already own one hope the price will stay the same or rise

Only time will tell, but I don't see a big correction.

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[tonysoprano100]

Originally Posted by Bmw1

Hello fellow members
I am actually starting to think that the prices on these is actually pretty nuts, and I really don't think it's justified what so ever, this watch is so so over priced and after sometime with it I think people are crazy now a days paying 60-70k for this piece or any Nautilus for that matter.
What do you guys think? Do you think the Nautilus market will soften in the near future?
I think these will drop to 25-35k in the near future which is a fair price for this watch
All inputs are appreciated.
Thank you.

How many time you have it?

[Bmw1]

Originally Posted by tonysoprano100

How many time you have it?

I bought it in 2013


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[tonysoprano100]

Originally Posted by Bmw1

I bought it in 2013


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How was your experience? I dont see scratches.....do you use it all days?

I m asking too much maybe....

[S``]

Originally Posted by Bmw1

I bought it in 2013


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That branding PP plate on the 5711 isnt found on a 2013... Quit lying too

[dauster]

I like it, design icon but would never pay 2x retail but don’t think price will decline significantly any time soon.

[shaunylw]

Well 25k would be 5k less than retail, so that’s never happening. I agree, it’s not worth 60-70k. Not even close. But will they come back to retail, no. Not ever.

33k is close to the retail with tax. I can’t see this thing ever getting under 45k. They are too hot and way too many people paid over retail.


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[PPcollector]

No way the watch will end up in that range. In this day and age everyone has the FOMO bug!

[Pw92676]

Not a regular on this subforum but occasionally lurk.

As a somewhat educated investor (who understands markets but does not consider watches or any luxury item as an investment), I simply do not see this ever being valued for less than 25 percent over MSRP.

As a watch enthusiast, I personally wouldn’t pay over MSRP for a 5711. In an isolated bubble where the 5711 has no legendary lure, I frankly would be hard pressed even paying MSRP knowing that amount puts you in PM territory for many brands. No bash on PP, I would easily pay more for an AC or PC. Just my personal preference.

[rumnyc]

I don’t get this watch. I mean its nice and all but even at 33k I don’t get it...

On the other hand, I do get the Royal Oak 15500st which is about the most I think a steel watch should cost (retail or the slight premium). I also get how the RO is attainable to most with under a year of wait.

It’s demand and supply (or more like bandwagoning). I would snap one at retail as there is zero chance of losing value but given that PP has like 2 watches I have interest in (nautilus and aquanaut) and the rest are round dress watches that I would never really wear its not worth my time to invest in the brand. This may change In 10-20 years who knows...

Add to that, the only times in recent memory i have actually seen someone in a 5711 is a 18-25 yr old Asian kid in shorts and slippers (i am Asian so i can say that lol) i don’t want to assiciate myself with the daddy’s trust-fund-kid crowd either...


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[PPcollector]

Originally Posted by rumnyc

I don’t get this watch. I mean its nice and all but even at 33k I don’t get it...

On the other hand, I do get the Royal Oak 15500st which is about the most I think a steel watch should cost (retail or the slight premium). I also get how the RO is attainable to most with under a year of wait.

It’s demand and supply (or more like bandwagoning). I would snap one at retail as there is zero chance of losing value but given that PP has like 2 watches I have interest in (nautilus and aquanaut) and the rest are round dress watches that I would never really wear its not worth my time to invest in the brand. This may change In 10-20 years who knows...

Add to that, the only times in recent memory i have actually seen someone in a 5711 is a 18-25 yr old Asian kid in shorts and slippers (i am Asian so i can say that lol) i don’t want to assiciate myself with the daddy’s trust-fund-kid crowd either...


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You answered your own question as to why the watch is in such demand. You are only interested in the two models (Nautilus and Aquanaut) yet you wonder why they are priced so high. Just remember there are probably hundreds of thousands of people just like you who are not looking for the “round dress watches” and only want the sports watches from PP. When people like you start to gravitate towards those round dress watches then I’m sure the sports watch market will come back down for everyone to afford.

It is basic Econ 101...demand outstrips supply.

[CastorKrieg]

Originally Posted by rumnyc

Add to that, the only times in recent memory i have actually seen someone in a 5711 is a 18-25 yr old Asian kid in shorts and slippers (i am Asian so i can say that lol) i don’t want to assiciate myself with the daddy’s trust-fund-kid crowd either...


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I would say on the trust-fund front RO is doing much better than Nautilus.

[startrolexendrolex]

Originally Posted by rumnyc

I don’t get this watch. I mean its nice and all but even at 33k I don’t get it...

On the other hand, I do get the Royal Oak 15500st which is about the most I think a steel watch should cost (retail or the slight premium). I also get how the RO is attainable to most with under a year of wait.

It’s demand and supply (or more like bandwagoning). I would snap one at retail as there is zero chance of losing value but given that PP has like 2 watches I have interest in (nautilus and aquanaut) and the rest are round dress watches that I would never really wear its not worth my time to invest in the brand. This may change In 10-20 years who knows...

Add to that, the only times in recent memory i have actually seen someone in a 5711 is a 18-25 yr old Asian kid in shorts and slippers (i am Asian so i can say that lol) i don’t want to assiciate myself with the daddy’s trust-fund-kid crowd either...


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15500 is close to 10k over MSRP if your looking for a unworn one, blue dial that's even more.

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[IBDOC]

Originally Posted by startrolexendrolex

15500 is close to 10k over MSRP if your looking for a unworn one, blue dial that's even more.

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Depends on which market. AP introduced big price hikes in many European markets on July 1st. Plenty of 15500ST now on C24 which are unworn and below list prices in eg Scandinavia.

[Nav01L]

Originally Posted by IBDOC

Depends on which market. AP introduced big price hikes in many European markets on July 1st. Plenty of 15500ST now on C24 which are unworn and below list prices in eg Scandinavia.

I believe that might be due to the fact prices on C24 are generally expressed without VAT which is pretty high on luxury items in Scandinavia, so what’s true in Sweden or Denmark may not be in other parts of the world in this respect.

[IBDOC]

Originally Posted by Nav01L

I believe that might be due to the fact prices on C24 are generally expressed without VAT which is pretty high on luxury items in Scandinavia, so what’s true in Sweden or Denmark may not be in other parts of the world in this respect.

In my experience local sales taxes or VAT are included in the listed prices on C24 (I’m sure there are exceptions). Then there would have to be adjustment with import duties etc if buying across borders but that’s not applicable when ordering intra-EU.

[Nikrnic]

It's a nice piece but never did much for me. If there were no hype and you could buy it at retail or less it would still be a pass for me just as many others. As far as it dropping that much in value I don't see that happening any time soon as the watch market is holding strong, even in this weird year

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[GoingPlaces]

Nice piece but never really did anything for me. To me it's a 30K watch, period.

[Knappo 1307]

Originally Posted by GoingPlaces

Nice piece but never really did anything for me. To me it's a 30K watch, period.

This....

[JR16]

Unless there is a nuclear war or Covid kills half the earth’s population, there is no chance the 5711a ever sells for less than retail in the next 10 years. Anyone who thinks otherwise is just dreaming.... my 2 cents.


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[scarlet knight]

Originally Posted by JR16

Unless there is a nuclear war or Covid kills half the earth’s population, there is no chance the 5711a ever sells for less than retail in the next 10 years. Anyone who thinks otherwise is just dreaming.... my 2 cents.


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Anything is possible.

[S``]

Nice fake 5711... That purplish tint never existed in the real thing. Come on man...

[Nav01L]

Originally Posted by S``

Nice fake 5711... That purplish tint never existed in the real thing. Come on man...

Ever heard of white balance? Don’t know whether the watch is genuine, but I know the colors say more about how the camera that captured that shot works than about the watch...