Help. have i bought a duff watch?

[Fagin]

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HELP have i bought a duff watch???

please let me know what you think so i can try and sort it out, thanks

[joseluu]

Wait for the experts, but it looks OK to me.

[Furbo]

Where did you buy it? Was it from AD?
Experts usually need some pictures of the clasp... add some more photos while you're waiting.

[mjclark32]

Originally Posted by joseluu

wait for the experts, but it looks ok to me.

Originally Posted by furbo

where did you buy it? Was it from ad?
Experts usually need some pictures of the clasp... Add some more photos while you're waiting.

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[mjclark32]

Looks like the experts may have chimed in
https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=272132

[joseluu]

Originally Posted by mjclark32

Looks like the experts may have chimed in
https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=272132

I mean the REAL experts. The ones in this subforum. Jejeje.

[MonBK]

I noticed the watch is a V serial, did you get any paperwork with it?

We would also need to see pictures of the clasp.

[dysondiver]

??????????
dont understnd

[Fagin]

Yes got the box and sleeves, a credit card with the details on that match the watch and the original receipt. Got another hour before I can post some pictures. Can't see the lec with the naked eye and only just with a loupe, made of tidy dots and looks crisp. Thanks

[Token74]

I'm no expert but looks good to me, the only thing that looks a little curious is the '6 marker' appears a little close to the words 'Swiss made' but maybe this is normal

[Fagin]

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[Fagin]

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[Fagin]

cant get a good picture of the other side of the clasp but it has the code LT2 on it along with STEELINOX and Rolexsa

[Fagin]

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[Knappo 1307]

FYI... V serial GMT ii are the most popular counterfeit.. Not saying yours is, just from past knowledge v is a concern...

[Fagin]

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[joseluu]

Try to make them as clear as possible (the last one is too fuzzy) and make more: the other half of the clasp, the crown, the face from several angles so we can see the serial number and the top of the dial, etc. You can´t make too many!!

[GradyPhilpott]

You need to post a full on shot of both sections of the folding clasp, so that we can see what is written on them and showing both sides would be best.

Try to get in enough light, so that you don't have to use the flash.

I think the best thing to do is to take the watch to an AD and/or a watchmaker and ask to see the movement.

That's the acid test.

[joseluu]

I don´t like very much the STEELINOX and ROLEXSA part. They seem to be laser etched and not engraved, but... As I said, wait for the REAL experts to speak.

[Fagin]

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[Fagin]

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[Mickey®]

Originally Posted by Fagin

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WOW that LEC is REAL Visible...
Did OP ever tell us where he bought it?

[samuel019]

Originally Posted by Fagin

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Guys I have stared at this picture for a while and I still DONT see the lec. Now I dont own a GMT but I am wearing my Exp II 216570 which also has the second time zone hand for a comparison and even though Im sure they have there differences I dont see anything wrong with this one. EVERYONE please stop for a second and think. When has there been a fake that looks as good as this one. Look at the rehaut, the bezel, the hands, the clasp, and even the screws. It all looks good to me. However I am NOT as knowledgable as most here on TRF. I just dont see anything wrong here! My hand placement is hours, 2nd time zone, minutes, and then seconds. Its currently 2 30 pm where Im at and the minute hand is right on top of the 2nd time zone hand. Maybe I will look like a fool in the end but as of right now I just dont see any problems.

[supernova]

I'm with you, don't see the LEC in any of the pics either...

I'm still a little skeptical on the rehaut engraving, engraving on clasp and warranty card, other than that, itt looks good!

[joseluu]

Originally Posted by supernova

I'm with you, don't see the LEC in any of the pics either...

I'm still a little skeptical on the rehaut engraving, engraving on clasp and warranty card, other than that, itt looks good!

Same here, but I have the feeling that I have magnified the pictures so much that I am seeing "defects" that I would see too in any perfectly legit watch

By the way, I still cannot see the LEC either.

In a nutshell: if it is fake it´s the best ever.

[77T]

Originally Posted by samuel019

Guys I have stared at this picture for a while and I still DONT see the lec. Now I dont own a GMT but I am wearing my Exp II 216570 which also has the second time zone hand for a comparison and even though Im sure they have there differences I dont see anything wrong with this one. EVERYONE please stop for a second and think. When has there been a fake that looks as good as this one. Look at the rehaut, the bezel, the hands, the clasp, and even the screws. It all looks good to me. However I am NOT as knowledgable as most here on TRF. I just dont see anything wrong here! My hand placement is hours, 2nd time zone, minutes, and then seconds. Its currently 2 30 pm where Im at and the minute hand is right on top of the 2nd time zone hand. Maybe I will look like a fool in the end but as of right now I just dont see any problems.

Originally Posted by supernova

I'm with you, don't see the LEC in any of the pics either...

I'm still a little skeptical on the rehaut engraving, engraving on clasp and warranty card, other than that, itt looks good!

Originally Posted by joseluu

Same here, but I have the feeling that I have magnified the pictures so much that I am seeing "defects" that I would see too in any perfectly legit watch

By the way, I still cannot see the LEC either.

In a nutshell: if it is fake it´s the best ever.

Maybe this 4x enlargement of this head-on shot will help. I circled where you will see a coronet in the crystal. It has continuous lines and IMHO is etched on the backside of the crystal. That's why I recommend an indie watchmaker to verify it.

[Knappo 1307]

Originally Posted by Fagin

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HELP have i bought a duff watch???

please let me know what you think so i can try and sort it out, thanks

To me the LEC looks to prominent in the first picture..

[joseluu]

The letters "ROLEX" in the rehaut seem laser etched too. It is not getting any better, but I still wouldn´t swear for or against (I might be getting old, but I still can´t see the LEC).

[Mickey®]

Originally Posted by joseluu

The letters "ROLEX" in the rehaut seem laser etched too. It is not getting any better, but I still wouldn´t swear for or against (I might be getting old, but I still can´t see the LEC).

That LEC is REAL visible...

[Fagin]

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sorry for the delay