Daytona Flyback?

[antelope]

I know there is mixed reviews about if Daytona should have a date. I like it as is, but would not be offended if date was added . It would be nice to add a flyback complication as I would use it often. Thoughts?

[Greg 59]

I would find a date function really useful and I know I would utilise it more than the chronograph. They'll never incorporate it though.

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[BDII]

My ad told me it was a flyback.... I asked if he was sure about that… He said yes because it flies-back to 12 after 30 second mark

I didn’t correct him


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[TempoKing]

Originally Posted by BDII

My ad told me it was a flyback.... I asked if he was sure about that… He said yes because it flies-back to 12 after 30 second mark

I didn’t correct him


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...of course it is ...

[ap1]

Slap a function onto an already useless one

Note - the Daytona is my favorite model, but still

[037]

Originally Posted by ap1

Slap a function onto an already useless one

Note - the Daytona is my favorite model, but still

Agreed. Although I'd say "infrequently used" rather than useless.

[watchmaker]

Out of interest what would your frequent use of a flyback be that cannot currently be met by a non flyback?

[antelope]

Originally Posted by watchmaker

Out of interest what would your frequent use of a flyback be that cannot currently be met by a non flyback?

Kids run cross country events mainly.

[antelope]

Originally Posted by watchmaker

Out of interest what would your frequent use of a flyback be that cannot currently be met by a non flyback?

I guess you could say I am a nerd with watches and I enjoyed using the function on many different kids activities Skiing, cart racing , and now track (cross country events). Really helpful when you have 2 things in same event.

[EEpro]

Originally Posted by antelope

I guess you could say I am a nerd with watches and I enjoyed using the function on many different kids activities Skiing, cart racing , and now track (cross country events). Really helpful when you have 2 things in same event.

You need the A Lange with 2!!! seconds hands for lap timing.

[watchmaker]

Originally Posted by antelope

I guess you could say I am a nerd with watches and I enjoyed using the function on many different kids activities Skiing, cart racing , and now track (cross country events). Really helpful when you have 2 things in same event.

Based on your needs you are describing a split-second chronograph (rattrapante), not a flyback.

A flyback cannot time two things simultaneously, it zeros the seconds and immediately begins timing again from scratch.

A rattrapante can be a flyback as well. But they are two distinct features.

[ratty]

Originally Posted by watchmaker

Based on your needs you are describing a split-second chronograph (rattrapante), not a flyback.

A flyback cannot time two things simultaneously, it zeros the seconds and immediately begins timing again from scratch.

A rattrapante can be a flyback as well. But they are two distinct features.

That's what I was thinking.

[Andad]

Originally Posted by watchmaker

Based on your needs you are describing a split-second chronograph (rattrapante), not a flyback.

A flyback cannot time two things simultaneously, it zeros the seconds and immediately begins timing again from scratch.

A rattrapante can be a flyback as well. But they are two distinct features.

Hi Scott

Just wondering?

Why would you want to start a second time run when you haven’t even had time to look at previous result?
You can’t reset a flyback as I just cross the line and read the result at the same time?
Now if the watch had two independent timers......

[watchmaker]

Originally Posted by directioneng

Hi Scott

Just wondering?

Why would you want to start a second time run when you haven’t even had time to look at previous result?
You can’t reset a flyback as I just cross the line and read the result at the same time?
Now if the watch had two independent timers......

Flybacks were designed for and utilised during in-flight navigation where a heading of 'X' must be flown for 'Time' followed immediately by a change to a heading of 'Y' for 'Time'. The additional second(s) pressing stop/reset/start again could lead to a significant margin of error navigationally when done dozens of times during a flight covering hundreds of miles.

Two independent timers...now you're talking!

[antelope]

Originally Posted by watchmaker

Based on your needs you are describing a split-second chronograph (rattrapante), not a flyback.

A flyback cannot time two things simultaneously, it zeros the seconds and immediately begins timing again from scratch.

A rattrapante can be a flyback as well. But they are two distinct features.

I have a 50 fathoms flyback currently and use it a lot. A split-second is on wish list just have not pulled trigger. Pretty sure I dont use it as intended but does serve my purpose well when measuring 2 runners or whatever how many seconds between each finish while the mins hand is still running. Beats waiting around for 30 mins for times to be posted. Of course an iPhone would do this much easier but I am self confessed watch nerd

[padi56]

Originally Posted by watchmaker

Out of interest what would your frequent use of a flyback be that cannot currently be met by a non flyback?

Have to agree many of these so called complications are just complications for complications sake.And in the real world after reading the thousands of posts on forum how many even use these complications, even the simple time lapse bezels on dive watches.Many seem to think it must be left within a cats whisker of the 12 marker.

[jvb.nc]

Originally Posted by padi56

Have to agree many of these so called complications are just complications for complications sake.And in the real world after reading the thousands of posts on forum how many even use these complications, even the simple time lapse bezels on dive watches.Many seem to think it must be left within a cats whisker of the 12 marker.

if i’m not timing anything with a dive bezel i have to seat it at 12 or it makes me itchy.

but if i’m timing something it doesn’t bug me.

[samson66]

There are plenty of ways they could incorporate a date feature on the Daytona. Omega even has a couple models that keep the three subdials but add a date at the six. I think it looks just fine and would make the Daytona a much more useful watch.

[Juan Luis]

Date+flyback=Daytona II.

[HogwldFLTR]

My Daytonas already have a date. Mine says it’s the 30th below...

[offrdmania]

Chronos shouldnt have a date window. Lesser brands do this. It gives the vibe that an off the shelf movement was used which cheapens the watch IMO.

[Greg 59]

Originally Posted by offrdmania

Chronos shouldnt have a date window. Lesser brands do this. It gives the vibe that an off the shelf movement was used which cheapens the watch IMO.

You are so wrong.

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[Bocktagon]

Originally Posted by Greg 59

You are so wrong.

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This

[offrdmania]

Originally Posted by Greg 59

You are so wrong.

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That has a few more complications and doesn’t fall into the same category.

[Greg 59]

Originally Posted by offrdmania

That has a few more complications and doesn’t fall into the same category.

How ridiculous. I could show you countless examples of high horology chrono with a date complication.
There's only one reason why Rolex would never add a date. Can you guess what that might be?

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[usmc_k9_vet]

Originally Posted by Greg 59

How ridiculous. I could show you countless examples of high horology chrono with a date complication.
There's only one reason why Rolex would never add a date. Can you guess what that might be?

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When I saw his statement I immediately thought of that VC Overseas chrono with blue dial. Amazing watch and those others clearly disprove the assertion as well.


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[jvb.nc]

Originally Posted by Greg 59

You are so wrong.

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well, there you have it.

[Commonproject]

Originally Posted by offrdmania

Chronos shouldnt have a date window. Lesser brands do this. It gives the vibe that an off the shelf movement was used which cheapens the watch IMO.

so AP and PP are lesser brands?

[blankapdx]

I would not buy the Daytona if it has date.

[Flyoverguy]

Putting a date on an already overloaded dial? Where would it go? Cyclops?

Legibility issues on steroids.