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JustinRolex · 7 May 2017, 10:07 PM

Acquired from a fellow collector who has had this for many years
Not sure if anyone has seen this dial before
Any comments welcome

brettpaul · 8 May 2017, 12:57 AM

That's beautiful mate - not seen that dial before!

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JustinRolex · 8 May 2017, 02:10 AM

Thanks for the comments
I bought of a friend who's a serious vintage rolex collector. He recons its a Jordanian Military piece and has only seen one other example in 20 years

Sky21 · 8 May 2017, 02:17 AM

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Originally Posted by JustinRolex

Thanks for the comments
I bought of a friend who's a serious vintage rolex collector. He recons its a Jordanian Military piece and has only seen one other example in 20 years

Very nice, seems like it might be more rare than your 6542.

Sky21 · 8 May 2017, 01:07 AM

Wow, that's a beautiful Mk 4 dial! Any additional history regarding this watch you can share?

Gaijin · 8 May 2017, 01:21 AM

That is worth a pretty penny for sure.

jban5 · 8 May 2017, 01:22 AM

I was also wondering if you had any paperwork on the watch. If you have the certification I think it would at least have a country code the watch was shipped to.

If only Rolex would only open an office to offer extracts of the archives like some others do.

PanosI · 8 May 2017, 01:24 AM

Nice ! First time i see that dial.

spoilsofwar01 · 15 May 2017, 02:05 AM

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Originally Posted by jban5

I was also wondering if you had any paperwork on the watch. If you have the certification I think it would at least have a country code the watch was shipped to.

If only Rolex would only open an office to offer extracts of the archives like some others do.

Gets my vote, id be interested to learn more about my 1968 5513,

joli160 · 15 May 2017, 03:04 AM

Without provenance it has no added value imho

JustinRolex · 15 May 2017, 03:26 AM

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Originally Posted by joli160

Without provenance it has no added value imho

Seems we have a provenance now buddy

Wesley Crusher · 15 May 2017, 03:29 AM

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Originally Posted by JustinRolex

Seems we have a provenance now buddy

Yes, agreed. If this watch ever goes to auction, your buddy just needs to print out a screenshot of this thread where some random guy is saying that it could be real. That should clear any doubts that a potential buyer may have.

TheRolexKingofLV · 15 May 2017, 03:31 AM

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Originally Posted by JustinRolex

Seems we have a provenance now buddy

What provenance are you talking about?

KarlFr · 8 May 2017, 01:44 AM

Very nice !

New to me.

Wesley Crusher · 8 May 2017, 02:21 AM

Awesome! I've never seen anything like this before.

Regarding the Middle Eastern military Rolex watches, I am guessing that they were given to the officers (and maybe just the high ranking officers?) and not the foot soldiers, but can anybody confirm?

JustinRolex · 8 May 2017, 02:29 AM

[/QUOTE] Regarding the Middle Eastern military Rolex watches, I am guessing that they were given to the officers (and maybe just the high ranking officers?) and not the foot soldiers, but can anybody confirm?[/QUOTE]

Yes I agree I don't see every soldier receiving one of these.
would be good if someone more educated around these dials popped in and could give us some more detailed info.

JustinRolex · 8 May 2017, 02:30 AM

Yes I agree I don't see every soldier receiving one of these.
would be good if someone more educated around these dials popped in and could give us some more detailed info.[/QUOTE]

Lamone · 8 May 2017, 03:01 AM

A few years ago, I saw the same exact dial (not in the watch). Within the last few years, it must have found its way into the above GMT...

Long story short, I past on it in due to its unsure provenance. King Hussein I' signature and initials do not seem to match. It almost looks Farsi.

Can you take a close up of the dial?

JustinRolex · 8 May 2017, 03:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Lamone

A few years ago, I saw the same exact dial (not in the watch). Within the last few years, it must have found its way into the above GMT...

Long story short, I past on it in due to its unsure provenance. King Hussein I' signature and initials do not seem to match. It almost looks Farsi.

Can you take a close up of the dial?

Not the best quality photos but here

JustinRolex · 8 May 2017, 03:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Lamone

A few years ago, I saw the same exact dial (not in the watch). Within the last few years, it must have found its way into the above GMT...

Long story short, I past on it in due to its unsure provenance. King Hussein I' signature and initials do not seem to match. It almost looks Farsi.

Can you take a close up of the dial?

From what I hear its Arabic caligraphy

Lamone · 8 May 2017, 03:38 AM

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Originally Posted by JustinRolex

From what I hear its Arabic caligraphy

Thanks for the pictures, it appears to be the same dial with the same damage at 8 o'clock and lume degradation.

JustinRolex · 8 May 2017, 03:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Lamone

Thanks for the pictures, it appears to be the same dial with the same damage at 8 o'clock and lume degradation.

Wow it is!

Lamone · 8 May 2017, 03:43 AM

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Originally Posted by JustinRolex

Wow it is!

Saw it among other logo dials at a shop in the UK. Your collector friend must have acquired it from there... Cute dial nonetheless.

Johny · 14 May 2017, 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Lamone

Thanks for the pictures, it appears to be the same dial with the same damage at 8 o'clock and lume degradation.

well spotted.

jfmiii · 8 May 2017, 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Lamone

A few years ago, I saw the same exact dial (not in the watch). Within the last few years, it must have found its way into the above GMT...

Long story short, I past on it in due to its unsure provenance. King Hussein I' signature and initials do not seem to match. It almost looks Farsi.

Can you take a close up of the dial?

it is your money OP, but Lamone's posts would have me screaming for a refund.

JustinRolex · 8 May 2017, 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by jfmiii

it is your money OP, but Lamone's posts would have me screaming for a refund.

How comes?

Kingface66 · 8 May 2017, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by JustinRolex

How comes?

Because this dial has no provenance whatsoever. It could've been made by anyone. And, like you did say in your very first post, the guy you bought it from said he had it for "many years". So, the watch was cobbled together, and the dial came from a shop that was selling it as is. Were there papers with the dial proving it was a Jordanian-issued military dial? I guess, the crux of all of this is there's nothing proving authenticity of this watch.
But, if you're cool with that...

Kiaraff · 8 May 2017, 03:42 AM

Good one Ben!

Kingface66 · 8 May 2017, 05:13 AM

Justin, does your friend contend that the dial and the rest of the watch were "born" together, as an all original piece? I think I'd have a lot of questions for him.

JustinRolex · 8 May 2017, 05:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Kingface66

Justin, does your friend contend that the dial and the rest of the watch were "born" together, as an all original piece? I think I'd have a lot of questions for him.

He never said they was born together I didn't expect they was eiva

Even to have a dial like this and put in a year corresponding case is a nice enoug

Justin

8 May 2017, 12:57 AM	#2
brettpaul "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Real Name: Brett Location: Bahrain, Dubai Watch: Rolex and AP Posts: 5,538	That's beautiful mate - not seen that dial before! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ Photostream on Instagram brett_in_bahrain

15 May 2017, 03:04 AM	#10
joli160 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: NL Watch: Yachtmaster Posts: 14,480	Without provenance it has no added value imho __________________ Day Date 18238, Yachtmaster 16622, Deepsea 116660, Submariner 116619, SkyD 326935, DJ 178271, DJ 69158, Yachtmaster 169622, GMT 116713LN, GMT 126711.

8 May 2017, 01:44 AM	#14
KarlFr "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Scandinavia Watch: ♛ Posts: 1,330	Very nice ! New to me. __________________ Insta

8 May 2017, 02:10 AM	#3
JustinRolex "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2017 Real Name: Justin Location: UK Watch: 6542/1675 Posts: 86	Thanks for the comments I bought of a friend who's a serious vintage rolex collector. He recons its a Jordanian Military piece and has only seen one other example in 20 years

8 May 2017, 01:07 AM	#5
Sky21 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: USA Posts: 885	Wow, that's a beautiful Mk 4 dial! Any additional history regarding this watch you can share?

8 May 2017, 01:21 AM	#6
Gaijin 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Japan Watch: ing your back. Posts: 16,179	That is worth a pretty penny for sure.

8 May 2017, 01:22 AM	#7
jban5 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: USA Watch: 5513~1675x2~1680~ Posts: 523	I was also wondering if you had any paperwork on the watch. If you have the certification I think it would at least have a country code the watch was shipped to. If only Rolex would only open an office to offer extracts of the archives like some others do.

8 May 2017, 01:24 AM	#8
PanosI 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: May 2008 Real Name: Panos Location: Athens, Greece Watch: 16710 Posts: 8,704	Nice ! First time i see that dial.

8 May 2017, 02:21 AM	#15
Wesley Crusher "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Real Name: Wes Location: Holosuite Posts: 6,345	Awesome! I've never seen anything like this before. Regarding the Middle Eastern military Rolex watches, I am guessing that they were given to the officers (and maybe just the high ranking officers?) and not the foot soldiers, but can anybody confirm?

8 May 2017, 02:29 AM	#16
JustinRolex "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2017 Real Name: Justin Location: UK Watch: 6542/1675 Posts: 86	[/QUOTE] Regarding the Middle Eastern military Rolex watches, I am guessing that they were given to the officers (and maybe just the high ranking officers?) and not the foot soldiers, but can anybody confirm?[/QUOTE] Yes I agree I don't see every soldier receiving one of these. would be good if someone more educated around these dials popped in and could give us some more detailed info.

8 May 2017, 02:30 AM	#17
JustinRolex "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2017 Real Name: Justin Location: UK Watch: 6542/1675 Posts: 86	Yes I agree I don't see every soldier receiving one of these. would be good if someone more educated around these dials popped in and could give us some more detailed info.[/QUOTE]

8 May 2017, 03:01 AM	#18
Lamone Banned Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: NYC Watch: ya mawt! Posts: 3,448	A few years ago, I saw the same exact dial (not in the watch). Within the last few years, it must have found its way into the above GMT... Long story short, I past on it in due to its unsure provenance. King Hussein I' signature and initials do not seem to match. It almost looks Farsi. Can you take a close up of the dial?

8 May 2017, 03:42 AM	#28
Kiaraff "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: Antwerp - Belgium Posts: 116	Good one Ben!

8 May 2017, 05:13 AM	#29
Kingface66 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: The Empire State Watch: 1966 Rolex 5513 Posts: 3,425	Justin, does your friend contend that the dial and the rest of the watch were "born" together, as an all original piece? I think I'd have a lot of questions for him.

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