Buying grey market

[Rexplorer214270]

What is the threshold amount you would pay in the grey market over MSRP?

[BumbleB]

Usd1k-1500


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[TswaneNguni]

$0.01

[Oldfellow]

Originally Posted by TswaneNguni

$0.01

You always say you wouldn't buy grey.

[clb521]

The amount I would pay on a watch would depend on which watch I wanted to buy. a black SS sub is not worth much if any over MSRP. Hulks and Batmans are going to cost more than MSRP and if I wanted to buy one right not I either decide to pay the premium or wait. Daytonas are always going to be way over MSRP so nothing you can do.

End of the day I will pay what I feel is an acceptable price for the watch based on how much I want it.

[boogiebot]

Originally Posted by TswaneNguni

$0.01

Totally agree.


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[007timer]

Originally Posted by TswaneNguni

$0.01

Not even the sales tax? I would do MSRP + my local sales tax and not $0.01


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[Steerpike999]

Originally Posted by TswaneNguni

$0.01

+1 but in my case I would round down.
Its a watch, no reason to pay over retail price offered by the manufacturer.

[BumbleB]

Originally Posted by BumbleB

Usd1k-1500


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I’ve been waiting for blue SkyD for almost a year. I would pay USD1k extra if i could have it now and be done with it.


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[Bybybmw]

zero

[cerendigit]

Sorry to be blunt, but your question is stupid.

[dane75]

Originally Posted by cerendigit

Sorry to be blunt, but your question is stupid.

It really isn't. If I wanted to know the opinion of others well-versed in a subject, including whether and how much to pay over MSRP on the gray market, I might pose the question here myself.

Your response, though, isn't merely blunt; it's intentionally inhospitable. Do better.

[Tmac478]

Originally Posted by cerendigit

Sorry to be blunt, but your question is stupid.

That's a little rough. I think his question is totally valid. Would you rather wait up to and beyond a year or pay a premium to a grey seller. Many on this forum have asked themselves this same question.

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[BumbleB]

Originally Posted by cerendigit

Sorry to be blunt, but your question is stupid.

If you don’t want to be here, no one’s forcing you to stay


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[DoxaDavid]

Originally Posted by cerendigit

Sorry to be blunt, but your question is stupid.

No you’re not sorry or you wouldn’t have posted it.

I’m trying to think of one useful or constructive thing you have added to anyones threads and I’m coming up with a blank. I would be sorry about that.

Maybe this isn’t the right forum fo you to be on if you can’t restrain yourself from derogatory comments or show a modicum of social tact.

[Fleetlord]

Originally Posted by cerendigit

Sorry to be blunt, but your question is stupid.

Are you able to say as to why?

Or was this just a random thread fouling?

[JacksonRain]

Originally Posted by cerendigit

Sorry to be blunt, but your question is stupid.

Very uncalled for. And very rude.

I would say up to 15% above

[daOnlyBG]

Originally Posted by cerendigit

Sorry to be blunt, but your question is stupid.

I think "blunt" and "stupid" should have been swapped.

Originally Posted by DoxaDavid

You are going to get a lot of different answers friend because it is going to be different for everyone.

To be fair, I think that's what OP was interested in seeing, how the wide variety of responses is distributed. Makes for an interesting poll.

Originally Posted by tanask211

I might pay another 10% extra for a new piece in grey. But by doing so, it just encourages such trend to carry on.

The grey market's been around long before the stainless steel craze began. Something started it off, and it wasn't grey market dealers taking advantage of arbitrage.

[DoxaDavid]

Originally Posted by daOnlyBG

I think "blunt" and "stupid" should have been swapped.


To be fair, I think that's what OP was interested in seeing, how the wide variety of responses is distributed. Makes for an interesting poll.



The grey market's been around long before the stainless steel craze began. Something started it off, and it wasn't grey market dealers taking advantage of arbitrage.

True the grey market has been around a long time but it's evolved from where it started.

An AD is required to take many pieces they do not want to get the ones they can sell quickly or in demand. Back in the day, they sold many of the less desirable models at a nice discount to the grey dealers and would throw them in a few desirable pieces to take the others. The greys then sold them at around MSRP or below because they paid 30-40% under MSRP.

Today it's a different ballgame. The AD's are still off loading the lesser desirable pieces but now can charge a premium over MSRP for the hot models which in turn the greys mark up to what we see as "market" prices. Add in the demand worldwide has increased substantially for SS sport models and there you have it.

[daOnlyBG]

Originally Posted by DoxaDavid

True the grey market has been around a long time but it's evolved from where it started.

An AD is required to take many pieces they do not want to get the ones they can sell quickly or in demand. Back in the day, they sold many of the less desirable models at a nice discount to the grey dealers and would throw them in a few desirable pieces to take the others. The greys then sold them at around MSRP or below because they paid 30-40% under MSRP.

Today it's a different ballgame. The AD's are still off loading the lesser desirable pieces but now can charge a premium over MSRP for the hot models which in turn the greys mark up to what we see as "market" prices. Add in the demand worldwide has increased substantially for SS sport models and there you have it.

What you described is exactly the same ballgame; the standards simply rose.

In any case, it's flippers, jewelers, grey market dealers, casual hobbyists, etc. taking advantage of a price difference, with some barrier to entry. That's what arbitrage is, and what they're doing today is simply a different play-call to the same game that's existed longer than Rolex has even been around.

[Uhtred59]

[QUOTE=daOnlyBG;10310733]I think "blunt" and "stupid" should have been swapped.

[Bigsoftee]

Originally Posted by cerendigit

Sorry to be blunt, but your question is stupid.

Why? Pointless and rude. Sad really you feel the need to make such comments.

[Bigsoftee]

I was always anti grey, either getting discount or paying a premium as I wanted to support the local guy with his shop. However, in the current climate I would not hesitate to go grey, as I dont want to play games to get a watch. As for how much depends on how much I put a value on the piece. In principle i guess around 50%

[Rexplorer214270]

Originally Posted by cerendigit

Sorry to be blunt, but your question is stupid.

Thank you to everyone that stood up for me with this question. It stemmed from a conversation, I had with the SA at the my AD and I thought it would be interesting to see the various responses.

[Arcticsub]

Originally Posted by cerendigit

Sorry to be blunt, but your question is stupid.

Way to go derailing a thread. OP has a reasonable question imo.

[Maxy]

Originally Posted by cerendigit

Sorry to be blunt, but your question is stupid.

You are less than 2 months old on TRF - you need to settle down and take it easy! You might not understand the question for its context but for this forum, its not a stupid question!

[007timer]

Originally Posted by cerendigit

Sorry to be blunt, but your question is stupid.

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[Geckobros]

Originally Posted by cerendigit

Sorry to be blunt, but your question is stupid.

Show some class...


My threshold would be MSRP+Local sales tax.

[dwjez14]

Originally Posted by cerendigit

Sorry to be blunt, but your question is stupid.

Whatever happened to no such thing as a stupid question ? I guess I applaud you for your honesty but take it easy on fellow members. That way they will give you the same respect back ??

[whitelightning]

Originally Posted by cerendigit

Sorry to be blunt, but your question is stupid.

Grandma always told me "if you can't say anything nice, don't say anything." That's worked for me for almost 85 years. Several posters on here who should also try it.