Elegant safes for Patek and expensive collections

[watchucallit]

I can understand how weight is a parameter for insurance companies but do they give your brownie points if bolted to the floor?

Originally Posted by WatchLurv

My policy said my safe had to be over 150 Kg (330 lbs) for them to cover some sort of home insurance policy against theft/burglary.

Since you live in America, a gun safe would probably be a better option. Those are all well-above 150 kilos.

If you want to go balls-out on a safe, buy a Buben & Zorweg. They do cost an arm and a leg.

[Raemondo]

Originally Posted by 1688

Now you know why I need a ballistic safe...

They look amazing! What a blue on the P.

[garrettsuzak]

Originally Posted by watchucallit

I can understand how weight is a parameter for insurance companies but do they give your brownie points if bolted to the floor?

The heavier the better. More layers of steel in the door and sidewalls, makes it less vulnerable to a breach. Add a layer of stainless steel and now you have significant fire protection. The weight also makes it less likely to be stolen. There are home safes (vaults) that weigh 1-2 tons.

Fort Knox is the best in the business here in the USA, IMO. You can customize it how you want it and the higher end ones are definitely show pieces.

Certainly an investment and its not easy to upgrade if you need more, soo.. Build as much as your budget allows, you really only buy once anyway.

[Russell996]

Originally Posted by watchucallit

I can understand how weight is a parameter for insurance companies but do they give your brownie points if bolted to the floor?

From my experience they have to be bolted down to be rated.

[AshAP]

Originally Posted by jag32

Called USAA today to add my 5130R World Time onto my valuable personal property policy and was told that it will put my collection over the threshold ($150k) for requiring a safe and they will not insure me until I obtain a safe and send them photos and the make/model, serial no. of the safe. They also would not provide any recommendations or even tell me what type or level of safe I needed, just that my collection needs to be in a safe for continuation of my policy. So this brings me to my fellow Patek WIS buddies on here who find themselves in a similar position and wanted a recommendation on what you guys use? I don’t want some ugly safe and I really enjoy displaying my collection. Any recommendations on elegant safes would be appreciated!

You need a Eurograde 2 safe for that amount of value.


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[AshAP]

Near where I live there have been some nasty burglaries in the last year where the thieves beat up the wife until the husband opens the safe, certainly a good reason to not spec the safe with a time delay mechanism.


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[jag32]

Originally Posted by locutus49

USAA acted like I was the first person to ask for insurance for two precious metal Rolexes. I told the lady to check the policies of some of the Generals and get back to me. She finally insured them. We have over 100K in art, which was not a problem. We have about 80K in jewelry.

As an insurance company USAA is excellent, but the people answering the phones are clueless.

[Ichiran]

Originally Posted by 1688

Not sure why it looks that way but both are perfectly aligned...here’s a close up

Beautiful! Thanks for sharing these pics

Just thinking how your insurer arrive at the insured value of your 5711/1p. There are not too many out there and the value must be close to 1m, or maybe more.

[1688]

Originally Posted by Ichiran

Beautiful! Thanks for sharing these pics

Just thinking how your insurer arrive at the insured value of your 5711/1p. There are not too many out there and the value must be close to 1m, or maybe more.

Exactly...not too many out there(less than the number of fingers on one hand). Let’s just say they look at valuation referencing recent sales and of course most sales are on the regular 5711/1P version without the T-stamp. Basically, it is under insured if you ask me...

Example sale of 5711/1P:
https://www.sothebys.com/en/auctions...html?locale=en

[Ichiran]

Originally Posted by 1688

Exactly...not too many out there(less than the number of fingers on one hand). Let’s just say they look at valuation referencing recent sales and of course most sales are on the regular 5711/1P version without the T-stamp. Basically, it is under insured if you ask me...

Example sale of 5711/1P:
https://www.sothebys.com/en/auctions...html?locale=en

Agreed. I think there would be a premium on the T-stamp 5711/1P given its scarcer. To me, yours is a 1m dollar watch.

[Fat_ninja]

Cool safe... I’m jealous


But not because of the safe lol

[1688]

Originally Posted by Fat_ninja

Cool safe... I’m jealous


But not because of the safe lol

Hmm...referencing to some of the letters on the watch bottom? You have a 1/1 in my humble opinion.

[jcoltrane]

I'm another Brown Safe "Man Safe" owner. Half the price of a Buben with twice the utility, big fan of their product. https://www.brownsafe.com/man-safe/m...ange_6024.html is the one I bought, customized exactly the way I wanted for about $35k including delivery.

[Jimmy Jam Jam]

im not gonna buy one you see but i literally just spend 40 mins on their website going through the different combinations or making my own, looking at photos and videos LOL today wont be a very productive day for me hahahah

[d11n]

Originally Posted by 1688

Now you know why I need a ballistic safe...

very nice collection.

[GB-man]

I might be paranoid but I would def not post pics of your home safe with 7 figures in contents on the internet. You are asking to be targeted.

[AshAP]

Originally Posted by GB-man

I might be paranoid but I would def not post pics of your home safe with 7 figures in contents on the internet. You are asking to be targeted.

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[timepieceluvr]

Originally Posted by GB-man

I might be paranoid but I would def not post pics of your home safe with 7 figures in contents on the internet. You are asking to be targeted.

How is someone going to target an anonymous person on a watch forum?


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[onshow]

Originally Posted by jag32

Called USAA today to add my 5130R World Time onto my valuable personal property policy and was told that it will put my collection over the threshold ($150k) for requiring a safe and they will not insure me until I obtain a safe and send them photos and the make/model, serial no. of the safe. They also would not provide any recommendations or even tell me what type or level of safe I needed, just that my collection needs to be in a safe for continuation of my policy. So this brings me to my fellow Patek WIS buddies on here who find themselves in a similar position and wanted a recommendation on what you guys use? I don’t want some ugly safe and I really enjoy displaying my collection. Any recommendations on elegant safes would be appreciated!

Check out Regal Vaults, beautiful luxurious safes and a fraction of the brown safes (which are awesome also).

www.regalvaults.com




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[AshAP]

Originally Posted by onshow

Check out Regal Vaults, beautiful luxurious safes and a fraction of the brown safes (which are awesome also).

www.regalvaults.com




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This is the safe that I have, it’s basically a £2,500 safe that has been customised (pimped).


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[onshow]

Originally Posted by AshAP

This is the safe that I have, it’s basically a £2,500 safe that has been customised (pimped).


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Yep pretty good value then, I’ve seen the quality of the finishes and the work that must go into them, good value for money in my opinion.


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[Fat_ninja]

...security guard. Lol :)

I tease

[1688]

Originally Posted by onshow

Check out Regal Vaults, beautiful luxurious safes and a fraction of the brown safes (which are awesome also).

www.regalvaults.com




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Nice! I like the interior finishes! What is the key for on the inside panel? Secret...secret compartment?

[onshow]

Originally Posted by 1688

Nice! I like the interior finishes! What is the key for on the inside panel? Secret...secret compartment?

Haha yep an extra secret storage compartment and access to the mechanical workings of the locks.


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[Calatrava r]

Buy the safe but don't put your watches in it. Insure the safe. That way when the safe gets stolen but nothing else (as the thieves think they hit paydirt) you can recover its value from the insurance carrier. Your watches were always hidden somewhere else safe and sound.

[1688]

Originally Posted by Calatrava r

Buy the safe but don't put your watches in it. Insure the safe. That way when the safe gets stolen but nothing else (as the thieves think they hit paydirt) you can recover its value from the insurance carrier. Your watches were always hidden somewhere else safe and sound.

That’s what I do now...have the safe but the most valuable pieces go to the bank. That way I’m protected...

[GB-man]

Originally Posted by timepieceluvr

How is someone going to target an anonymous person on a watch forum?


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Honestly I do not know but if people want to find you and they are skilled enough with a computer I personally believe they can. Maybe I sound like a tin hat fool IDK.

[timepieceluvr]

Originally Posted by GB-man

Honestly I do not know but if people want to find you and they are skilled enough with a computer I personally believe they can. Maybe I sound like a tin hat fool IDK.

Nah, I was just hoping I wasn’t the one being foolish! I’ve heard a couple other people make these statements and I thought maybe I was being delusional about being pretty much anonymous


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[AAP8]

With the value of these collections - why not store these at the bank??

[Russell996]

Originally Posted by AAP8

With the value of these collections - why not store these at the bank??

Well because it is much easier to wear a piece when it’s not locked in a bank.