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jinikari01 · 12 December 2019, 06:28 AM

BRAVO!!!!

Again, its terrible that these con-shops think they can get away with these poor business practice.

I hear you brother, at this point its beyond $990 that they charged.
Hope you take these piece of crap hole shop to the court and get your $990 with all the legal fees and work hour compensations on top of that.

Good luck!

P.S
Keep us posted.

Ksporty · 15 December 2019, 01:12 AM

Good luck here. As a person who has bought successfully from AD's, TRF preferred sellers and large gray dealers online, my perspective from reading all of this is that your experience here is an example of dishonest and sleazy business practices by any measure. I"ll now never visit or buy from this seller, and encourage all who I know to do the same. That they're too stupid/sleazy to drag this out and resolve fairly only reinforces the message to stay away.

TPLGT · 15 December 2019, 04:10 AM

You should definitely sue. What awful business practices.

Doc Savage · 2 January 2020, 06:26 AM

So sorry to hear the OP got screwed by this gray dealer. Lies and misrepresentations don't help to grow your business. Fully stickered only means one thing to Rolex fans, and Authenticwatches knows it. These guys sound like the worst of the pawn shops I've been in. Sleazy and acting like they're doing you a favor by selling you their stuff. I've browsed their site in the past and considered purchasing, but no more. Now they are on my blocked list, and I'll tell anyone I know to avoid them.

Best of luck to the OP in recovering the final 10% in court

Chewbacca · 2 January 2020, 06:34 AM

Lesson here:

Restocking Fee = Net Profit

*slow clap*

davidb · 2 January 2020, 07:08 AM

As a new member of TRF and someone who is shopping for a new watch, I came across their site several times and was very curious about them.

I definitely won't be ordering from them now.

Partagas · 2 January 2020, 07:17 AM

BS for sure. A seller I will definitely avoid!

peterpl · 2 January 2020, 03:06 PM

Wont be buying from these guys.

TBH the director should be sacked. He is risking the business for a mere $900 restocking fee when obviously they were misleading in their add.

If I was the owner he'd be gone in a heartbeat. They've lost far far more than $900 purely just from this thread. Probably just from myself easily.

nda · 2 January 2020, 05:59 PM

I would never buy from them having read this. Their advertising was clearly and deliberately misleading. In the UK the company would be investigated under 'Trading Standards'.

Additionally the re-stocking fee (which is another scam) should not apply when they have sold you something which does not match their description.

Andad · 2 January 2020, 06:11 PM

I am surprised at the current outcome as I expected a full refund and an apology.

I hope this does not end like this.

In any event Authenticwatches is an oxymoron and this Company should be avoided like the plague.

Zakalwe · 2 January 2020, 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by peterpl

Wont be buying from these guys.

TBH the director should be sacked. He is risking the business for a mere $900 restocking fee when obviously they were misleading in their add.

If I was the owner he'd be gone in a heartbeat. They've lost far far more than $900 purely just from this thread. Probably just from myself easily.

Exactly; utter, utter stupidity. It’s amazing how greed can turn people’s minds to mush.

Googling “Authenticwatches Rolex” brings this thread up at number 8 on page 1.

Moronic

RolyMoly · 2 January 2020, 09:55 PM

Well for one, I don’t know that any grey dealer will have a stickered watch.

For two, so long as it is actually brand new and perfect, I never got why this mattered.

And three, these guys cannot be stupid and talking about the semantics of “factory stickered”, etc. is ridiculous. It’s a bit scammy on their part for sure.

cybertrucker · 4 January 2020, 12:37 PM

I was just talking with some friends about this yesterday, that I find it pretty hilarious that the most “legitimate” resellers of rolexes all tend to have the most illegitimate sounding names. “Authentic Watches,” “Bob’s Watches,” etc. It’s strangely comforting for me to discover at least one of them is a little on the shady side.

nworbled · 4 January 2020, 01:29 PM

Man. The opportunity loss that the company has lost from this thread alone is mind boggling. The GM obviously made an extremely poor decision in not refunding the OP his entire amount. Thousands of dollars in lost sales is greater than $990.

I love when companies with poor business practices get called out like this. Eventually they learn the hard way that consumers' collective voices will not be silenced.

TimelessQuality · 4 January 2020, 02:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DLCU2

Post on WUS and other online forums to get your message across. I’m sure you’ll sway others into not purchasing from them. I certainly won’t thanks to you

Agreed! Please do so OP.

ERok32 · 4 January 2020, 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noonan

You were expecting full OEM stickers on a watch purchased at a discount from a gray seller?

Sorry, this is nothing to "beware" of.

This...

rolex5150 · 5 January 2020, 12:44 PM

I bought a watch from them and decided to return it. I did not wear it. I did not even try it on. They charged a. MASSIVE restocking fee and claimed I scratched the watch. Grey market is always buyer beware. Its always that Risk vs reward thing.

mstauqir · 11 January 2020, 03:53 PM

Wow.. I was thinking about pulling the trigger on their display date-sub. Screw that!

Sorry about your loss OP. Can’t believe they are willing to take bad rep from thousands of watch enthusiasts over virtually nothing. They got the freaking watch back to scam someone else!

BillA · 11 January 2020, 11:08 PM

OP, what happened about the 10% restocking charge?
Did you get a full refund?

streetfish · 14 January 2020, 07:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ERok32

This...

Yes I expect full stickers, when I was explicitly told there were full stickers.

There are countless grey dealers on this forum with stickered watches for sale. I personally have purchased stickered watches from this forum.

So yes, if I’m told there are stickers, I expect stickers (Rolex OEM stickers).

streetfish · 14 January 2020, 07:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rolex5150

I bought a watch from them and decided to return it. I did not wear it. I did not even try it on. They charged a. MASSIVE restocking fee and claimed I scratched the watch. Grey market is always buyer beware. Its always that Risk vs reward thing.

Never dealt with such a shady business before. Wish I had read up on them further before transacting with them.

streetfish · 14 January 2020, 07:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mstauqir

Wow.. I was thinking about pulling the trigger on their display date-sub. Screw that!

Sorry about your loss OP. Can’t believe they are willing to take bad rep from thousands of watch enthusiasts over virtually nothing. They got the freaking watch back to scam someone else!

I wouldn’t recommend buying even a swatch watch from these folks. Shady people over there.

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streetfish · 14 January 2020, 07:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BillA

OP, what happened about the 10% restocking charge?
Did you get a full refund?

They charged me the 10% restocking fee...

Comical really... all this bad press over $1k.

Have to assume a company willing to take on this level of bad press over $1k probably needs the money much more than I do...

WatchLurv · 16 January 2020, 04:45 PM

The 10% should cover: Refund fee from CC + shipping & insurance they paid for + a little bit of profit for their time.

I think authenticwatches will be fine. They may have missed a dozen sales from here, but they'll be ok in the end. Let's hope their "fully stickered" misleading title is corrected for the future unless they do have fully stickered (factory) watches for sales.

Andad · 16 January 2020, 05:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WatchLurv

The 10% should cover: Refund fee from CC + shipping & insurance they paid for + a little bit of profit for their time.

I think authenticwatches will be fine. They may have missed a dozen sales from here, but they'll be ok in the end. Let's hope their "fully stickered" misleading title is corrected for the future unless they do have fully stickered (factory) watches for sales.

I don’t think they deserve 10% after using the misleading ‘fully stickered’ description that you have stated.

They should have accepted all of the out of pocket expenses for their actions.

streetfish · 17 January 2020, 04:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WatchLurv

The 10% should cover: Refund fee from CC + shipping & insurance they paid for + a little bit of profit for their time.

I think authenticwatches will be fine. They may have missed a dozen sales from here, but they'll be ok in the end. Let's hope their "fully stickered" misleading title is corrected for the future unless they do have fully stickered (factory) watches for sales.

There is no refund fee on CC, they required payment by wire.

And it’s not even a question of whether stickered or not, they sold me a used POLISHED watch as brand new.

lear60man · 18 January 2020, 04:24 AM

Out of curiosity I just checked and full sticker sets are available for purchase on the interwebs. So triple check your sellers I guess.

Fleetlord · 18 January 2020, 05:28 AM

Authenticwatches.com and the like are NOT the place for a WIS to purchase a watch. They just AREN'T. 100% NEVER.

They are for the general public, who don't know any better.

Someone not in the know would probably think those WERE factory stickers and wouldn't know a polished watch from an unpolished one.

A WIS knows the difference and clearly wants the watch to be a certain way. Authenticwatches.com CANNOT provide that level of accommodation.

That being said, there is absolutely no reason for any member of this forum to buy any watch from a company like authenticwatches.com. We have so many sources among our TD sellers who have strong reputations and are accustomed to the specific needs and wants of the WIS customer.

What happened to the OP is really bad and they should be sued, but going forward this needs to be a lesson to anyone on this forum that grey marketers like AW.com WILL NOT get you what you specifically want. They are not set up for the WIS, don't care about the WIS and never will. Their customers are those ignorant to the ins and outs or those who don't care...just want a Rollie...etc.

erhein · 18 January 2020, 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fleetlord

Authenticwatches.com and the like are NOT the place for a WIS to purchase a watch. They just AREN'T. 100% NEVER.

They are for the general public, who don't know any better.

Someone not in the know would probably think those WERE factory stickers and wouldn't know a polished watch from an unpolished one.

A WIS knows the difference and clearly wants the watch to be a certain way. Authenticwatches.com CANNOT provide that level of accommodation.

That being said, there is absolutely no reason for any member of this forum to buy any watch from a company like authenticwatches.com. We have so many sources among our TD sellers who have strong reputations and are accustomed to the specific needs and wants of the WIS customer.

What happened to the OP is really bad and they should be sued, but going forward this needs to be a lesson to anyone on this forum that grey marketers like AW.com WILL NOT get you what you specifically want. They are not set up for the WIS, don't care about the WIS and never will. Their customers are those ignorant to the ins and outs or those who don't care...just want a Rollie...etc.

Burlington · 19 January 2020, 09:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by streetfish

There is no refund fee on CC, they required payment by wire.

And it’s not even a question of whether stickered or not, they sold me a used POLISHED watch as brand new.

How is the legal challenge going ? I do think when companies receive threats like that they know 99% of them are bluster but great when they actually get carried through.

Hope you can make progress on that front.

Can’t stand business practices like this. Just not on, so well done on making a scene and following up on it.

15 December 2019, 04:10 AM	#213
TPLGT "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: jax beach, FL Posts: 187	You should definitely sue. What awful business practices. __________________ A few watches: Tag Heuer F1 Chrono, Timex Digital, Lumiox, Nixon, Rolex GMT IIc, Omega Seamaster Chronograph

2 January 2020, 06:26 AM	#214
Doc Savage 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 X2 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2018 Real Name: Bill Location: Indiana Watch: Explorer 214270 Posts: 6,646	So sorry to hear the OP got screwed by this gray dealer. Lies and misrepresentations don't help to grow your business. Fully stickered only means one thing to Rolex fans, and Authenticwatches knows it. These guys sound like the worst of the pawn shops I've been in. Sleazy and acting like they're doing you a favor by selling you their stuff. I've browsed their site in the past and considered purchasing, but no more. Now they are on my blocked list, and I'll tell anyone I know to avoid them. Best of luck to the OP in recovering the final 10% in court __________________ “The real problem of humanity is we have Paleolithic emotions, medieval institutions, and godlike technology.” -Edward O. Wilson

2 January 2020, 06:11 PM	#220
Andad 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Real Name: Eddie Location: Australia Watch: A few. Posts: 36,807	I am surprised at the current outcome as I expected a full refund and an apology. I hope this does not end like this. In any event Authenticwatches is an oxymoron and this Company should be avoided like the plague. __________________ E

5 January 2020, 12:44 PM	#227
rolex5150 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2017 Real Name: Andrew Location: Los Angeles Watch: 16710 Pepsi Posts: 4	Agree , avoid them I bought a watch from them and decided to return it. I did not wear it. I did not even try it on. They charged a. MASSIVE restocking fee and claimed I scratched the watch. Grey market is always buyer beware. Its always that Risk vs reward thing.

12 December 2019, 06:28 AM	#211
jinikari01 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Chi Watch: 116710LN Posts: 636	BRAVO!!!! Again, its terrible that these con-shops think they can get away with these poor business practice. I hear you brother, at this point its beyond $990 that they charged. Hope you take these piece of crap hole shop to the court and get your $990 with all the legal fees and work hour compensations on top of that. Good luck! P.S Keep us posted.

15 December 2019, 01:12 AM	#212
Ksporty "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: SC Posts: 266	Good luck here. As a person who has bought successfully from AD's, TRF preferred sellers and large gray dealers online, my perspective from reading all of this is that your experience here is an example of dishonest and sleazy business practices by any measure. I"ll now never visit or buy from this seller, and encourage all who I know to do the same. That they're too stupid/sleazy to drag this out and resolve fairly only reinforces the message to stay away.

2 January 2020, 06:34 AM	#215
Chewbacca Banned Join Date: May 2012 Real Name: CJ Location: Kashyyyk Watch: Kessel Run Chrono Posts: 21,113	Lesson here: Restocking Fee = Net Profit slow clap

2 January 2020, 07:08 AM	#216
davidb "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: New Mexico Watch: Rolex Explorer II Posts: 21	As a new member of TRF and someone who is shopping for a new watch, I came across their site several times and was very curious about them. I definitely won't be ordering from them now.

2 January 2020, 07:17 AM	#217
Partagas "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: USA Watch: Rolex DD Posts: 306	BS for sure. A seller I will definitely avoid!

2 January 2020, 03:06 PM	#218
peterpl Banned Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: . Posts: 6,692	Wont be buying from these guys. TBH the director should be sacked. He is risking the business for a mere $900 restocking fee when obviously they were misleading in their add. If I was the owner he'd be gone in a heartbeat. They've lost far far more than $900 purely just from this thread. Probably just from myself easily.

2 January 2020, 05:59 PM	#219
nda "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2019 Location: England Posts: 413	I would never buy from them having read this. Their advertising was clearly and deliberately misleading. In the UK the company would be investigated under 'Trading Standards'. Additionally the re-stocking fee (which is another scam) should not apply when they have sold you something which does not match their description.

2 January 2020, 09:55 PM	#222
RolyMoly Banned Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: Chicago, FL/TN Posts: 447	Well for one, I don’t know that any grey dealer will have a stickered watch. For two, so long as it is actually brand new and perfect, I never got why this mattered. And three, these guys cannot be stupid and talking about the semantics of “factory stickered”, etc. is ridiculous. It’s a bit scammy on their part for sure.

4 January 2020, 12:37 PM	#223
cybertrucker "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2020 Location: SFBA, CA Posts: 3	I was just talking with some friends about this yesterday, that I find it pretty hilarious that the most “legitimate” resellers of rolexes all tend to have the most illegitimate sounding names. “Authentic Watches,” “Bob’s Watches,” etc. It’s strangely comforting for me to discover at least one of them is a little on the shady side.

4 January 2020, 01:29 PM	#224
nworbled "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2019 Location: Honolulu, HI Watch: 126710BLRO Posts: 308	Man. The opportunity loss that the company has lost from this thread alone is mind boggling. The GM obviously made an extremely poor decision in not refunding the OP his entire amount. Thousands of dollars in lost sales is greater than $990. I love when companies with poor business practices get called out like this. Eventually they learn the hard way that consumers' collective voices will not be silenced.

11 January 2020, 03:53 PM	#228
mstauqir "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: Texas Posts: 233	Wow.. I was thinking about pulling the trigger on their display date-sub. Screw that! Sorry about your loss OP. Can’t believe they are willing to take bad rep from thousands of watch enthusiasts over virtually nothing. They got the freaking watch back to scam someone else!

11 January 2020, 11:08 PM	#229
BillA 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: US Posts: 3,616	OP, what happened about the 10% restocking charge? Did you get a full refund?

16 January 2020, 04:45 PM	#234
WatchLurv Banned Join Date: Jul 2018 Location: Moon Watch: Swiss Posts: 2,270	The 10% should cover: Refund fee from CC + shipping & insurance they paid for + a little bit of profit for their time. I think authenticwatches will be fine. They may have missed a dozen sales from here, but they'll be ok in the end. Let's hope their "fully stickered" misleading title is corrected for the future unless they do have fully stickered (factory) watches for sales.

18 January 2020, 04:24 AM	#237
lear60man "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2019 Location: Florida Posts: 178	Out of curiosity I just checked and full sticker sets are available for purchase on the interwebs. So triple check your sellers I guess.

18 January 2020, 05:28 AM	#238
Fleetlord "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2013 Location: Vain Posts: 5,920	Authenticwatches.com and the like are NOT the place for a WIS to purchase a watch. They just AREN'T. 100% NEVER. They are for the general public, who don't know any better. Someone not in the know would probably think those WERE factory stickers and wouldn't know a polished watch from an unpolished one. A WIS knows the difference and clearly wants the watch to be a certain way. Authenticwatches.com CANNOT provide that level of accommodation. That being said, there is absolutely no reason for any member of this forum to buy any watch from a company like authenticwatches.com. We have so many sources among our TD sellers who have strong reputations and are accustomed to the specific needs and wants of the WIS customer. What happened to the OP is really bad and they should be sued, but going forward this needs to be a lesson to anyone on this forum that grey marketers like AW.com WILL NOT get you what you specifically want. They are not set up for the WIS, don't care about the WIS and never will. Their customers are those ignorant to the ins and outs or those who don't care...just want a Rollie...etc.

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